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November 28, 2012 3:12:12 AM

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I was getting an error page that my post wasn't submitted, sorry about this

November 28, 2012 3:24:22 AM

Hi all,

Approximate Purchase Date:
This weekend, December 1, 2 2012
Budget Range:
9,000php ($220 usd). I can ask my wife to stretch it to 10,200php ($250 usd)
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Java EE > Android Dev > Freenlancing work (support) > Blog > Music > Gaming (addicted to Civ5)
Parts Not Required:
Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
tipidpc (tipid means thrift/frugal), probably the best for enthusiast here in PH
Country:
Philippines (It's more fun here in the Philippines ;)  (tourism slogan))
Parts Preferences:
Upgradable, less chances of product return
Overclocking:
I'm willing to learn sometime
SLI or Crossfire:
nope
Monitor Resolution:
Got an ASUS VH197D LED – 18.5"1366x768 16:9
OS:
Ubuntu or Mint (I plan to play w/ ArchLinux)
Additional Comments:
Here's what I have so far:
http://pcpartpicker.com/b/yOE
I hope I the SSD & PSU choices are great.
Most PC shops here in PH have there pricelist in tipidpc.com. These are the stores that I trust:
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquest...
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=EasyPC


Any comments on an Intel G630? how come it's clock speed is lower, does it's cache make up for it (looking at this comparison w/ amd)?

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
-Thirdy
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November 28, 2012 3:37:06 AM

Do you have anything that we don't need to include?
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November 28, 2012 3:39:31 AM

Your PSU and SSD choices are good.

AMD processors are very different from Intel processors. Just look up some reviews if you want a detailed explanation of CPU architecture.... really it best to just know that the definition of "core" is different between the two brands.

Since you are using onboard graphics, let that be your deciding factor. Unless you are building games that will benefit from the AMD, go with the stronger CPU for processing at the price you can afford.
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November 28, 2012 3:40:43 AM

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  • Help for my $220 budget developer build
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    November 28, 2012 4:21:58 AM

    I'd push the budget out to an i3 3220. For developing work and some heavy duty multitasking that will be better than a Pentium. I'd match it to a Asrock B75 PRO 3. For the SSD, Samsung's 128GB 830. Rest is good.
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    November 28, 2012 7:03:38 AM

    Deemo13 said:
    Do you have anything that we don't need to include?


    I already have a Monitor, kb & mouse.

    Not sure about a Power surge protector or UPS though (I read this codinghorror post).
    We live on a high-rise condo so lightning is rare bec the building should protect itself.

    Does a PSU w/ PLUS 80 certification have protection vs unstable AC power from the wall outlet?
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    November 28, 2012 7:39:10 AM

    @all, updated my question to use the suggest format by Proximon
    @Proximon, reading your pc build guide, thanks for the format.

    Any suggested reading on the recent cpu architectures? And also for chipsets & mobo
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    November 28, 2012 8:09:06 AM

    NV88 said:
    I'd push the budget out to an i3 3220. For developing work and some heavy duty multitasking that will be better than a Pentium. I'd match it to a Asrock B75 PRO 3. For the SSD, Samsung's 128GB 830. Rest is good.


    Taken from B75
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    This is a "business class" chipset with no overclocking or SSD caching, but some enterprise features. It may be found at a good price for budget builds, and has great features for budget oriented gamers too.


    So it is bad/inefficient for SSD usage?
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    November 28, 2012 5:01:37 PM

    The only difference is B75 has no RAID. Its just as fast as a $500 Z77 motherboard.
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    November 28, 2012 6:21:15 PM

    No SSD caching is something else. It's a method of using a small SSD to cache data stored on a large HDD. It was a feature that never really caught on because SSD prices dropped so much.

    Have a look at this page, the most relevant for you, then look over the rest of the review as you like.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-560...

    If you have fluctuating power you can either get a UPS or a ... what's that thing called now... we don't need them here in the US. Line conditioner?

    Yes here it is:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_conditioner

    A PSU will have some protections, but it's not designed to handle a lot of power issues and will eventually be damaged. The efficiency has little or nothing to do with it... the included protections (over current, over voltage, etc.) are there to protect the computer, but are not really there to protect from the AC power.

    Making sure your home electrical system is properly grounded helps a lot, and is your first line of defense. A surge protector also helps for those big problems. The smaller fluctuations really need that line conditioner... but it all depends on the actual quality of the power.
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    November 29, 2012 8:54:31 AM

    I re-made my list on a google doc since most of parts in pcpartpicker is not available here in PH.

    I'll need to bring it down to at most 11,000php. Any suggestions? I'll be looking out for used parts (one good website to find one is here)

    Update: Added a new sheet, "Build Intel Dual Core G630", no mobo yet though
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    November 30, 2012 6:46:55 AM

    Proximon said:
    Don't trust Thermaltake or Cooler Master for PSUs. They sometimes sell good ones but more often they are junk.

    You can always upgrade the processor and add an SSD later. Keep the B75 board.

    This Antec PSU would be ideal
    http://pchub.multiply.com/products/listing/12074/772654...


    I've decided to wait for a better budget. In a couple or three weeks, I can stretch to 15000php.

    For the mean, read more on chipsets and mobo. Also, I'll finish the Dune book I'm reading :) 

    @everyone, Thanks a lot for the advice!
    I'll post another thread again before I buy
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    December 3, 2012 7:32:36 AM

    Best answer selected by thirdy.
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