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October 6, 2012 7:10:37 PM

Hi everyone,
I have been looking at building my first gaming rig and I was wondering which graphics card I should use.
My budget is around £200 but I could stretch it if it was worth it
These are the 3 that I am interested in:
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 OC edition Vapour X cooling £235
Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 OC edition £190
NVidia GTX 660Ti £238
NVidia GTX 670 £280

Here is my system spec (right now)
i5 3570k
ASRock extreme4 z77 or ASUS p8z77 V
8gb Corsair Vengeance
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Antec three hundred two
Graphics Card undecided
XFX Pro Core 850w
Western digital caviar green 7200rpm Sata III 1tb
LiteOnIHas Drive

One final question: Would my case be abe to fit all the components in it? I know that the Cooler Master 212 EVO is quite tall.

Thanks :) 

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October 6, 2012 7:11:30 PM

P.S I will be playing at 1920x1080
Thanks again
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 7:25:30 PM

Your PC is fine except for one thing.The hard drive you chose actually runs at 5400 RPM and is quite slow.I suggest replacing it with either a Caviar Blue or a Caviar Black.

And now about the graphics card.
The best card around the 200 pound price point is the HD 7950.This is the cheapest HD 7950 i could find.
http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/part/xfx-video-card-fx795atd...
It's got a pretty good cooler too.

If you want something cheaper than that then buy a HD 7870 like this one.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-radeon-hd-7870-t...

Or if you're willing to spend a bit more you should look into this GTX 670.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-gtx-670-power-ed...(x16)-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-1019mhz-boost-1079mhz-cores-13

And whatever you do yourself a favour and stay away from the GTX 660 Ti.These cards have got a terrible memory bottleneck.

And since you've got a really good case everything is going to fit perfectly.
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a c 92 U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 7:46:24 PM

If you want to Overclock, the 7950 is really good, otherwise the 7870 is cheap and effective.

I don't recommend the 660ti since its neutered card and severely bandwidth limited so it will give bad minimal frame rates.

The 670 is nice but for that price I don't think its worth it over the 7950. Its nice if you want a powerful and efficient graphics card that you don't need to OC.
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 8:07:44 PM

For the price of a 670 you're better off getting the 7970 since it overclocks better and stock their about the same. But of those I'd get the 7950.
October 6, 2012 8:10:19 PM

Thanks guys. I will change my HDD to a western digital caviar blue.
The main reason I was looking at the sapphire Radeon HD 7950 OC is because of the vapour X cooling and the fact that when I need to, I can overclock it very well without high temperatures and increased fan noise.
Is it worth the extra £20 for the cooler and good overclocking?
a c 92 U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 8:39:13 PM

Depends, The DD XFX isn't bad but it will be slightly hotter. I would say the 20 pounds is worth it for the sapphire.
October 6, 2012 8:44:55 PM

You don't need anything more than a 660 Ti for 1080p, but if you can afford it and you think you may eventually jump to 1440p, I say go with the 670.
October 6, 2012 9:01:53 PM

Im gonna go with the Sapphire and I cant see myself jumping to 1440p very soon.Is it worth it to just run the games with the intel HD 4000 graphics an save up for the 670 or even the 680?
a c 92 U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 9:17:07 PM

reubenno said:
Im gonna go with the Sapphire and I cant see myself jumping to 1440p very soon.Is it worth it to just run the games with the intel HD 4000 graphics an save up for the 670 or even the 680?

no. HD 4000 sucks...
October 6, 2012 9:33:55 PM

The problem is that both of those card are £110 over my initial budget. Thats why i was thinking about just using the HD 4000 graphics for a while until I can get enough money to get the 7970 or 680. However cant I overclock the 7950 to achieve 7970 stock speeds anyway? I will only be using 2 screens maximum due to my budget and I am not bothered about getting crazy frame rates on games.
Thanks again for the advice guys, much appreciated
October 6, 2012 9:36:46 PM

Also isnt the 7970 very power hungry compared to the 7950?
October 6, 2012 10:07:28 PM

So if it was out of the Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC or the GTX 670 which one would you choose and why?
I am leaning towards the AMD card due to the cooling and overclocking potential
October 6, 2012 10:12:15 PM

Plus looking at benchmarks there doesnt seem to be much of a difference in performance between the 7950 and 7970? Is it really worth the extra £60?
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2012 10:27:25 PM

If you want to run two 1080 monitors when gaming yes the 7979 is worth it. If you just want to keep one screen on the desktop and the other on games then a 7950 or even lower is better. I personally prefer both the AMD 7950 over the 660Ti and 7970 over the 670. This is because I do overclock and their just better in that. After all the price reductions AMD has released I find it hard to recommend any NVidia card.
October 6, 2012 11:54:22 PM

Hello. The real truth in this selection of graphics cards isn't which one is better or more power concious. The real matter is how do the cards perform in YOUR games.

Even at 1080 p when you turn on MSAA Nvidias cards start to rapidly decline in performance after 4x.

I bought a 670 then read the article about msaa and graphics cards.

the sapphire 7950 would be your best bet for your current setup and the card does have some headroom for oc. You also now have the benefit of some computational power aswell.

One last word is that nvidia does offer physx and adaptive v sync which I'm finding good, in borderlands 2 the physx are pretty sweet.
October 7, 2012 2:25:47 AM

reubenno said:
So if it was out of the Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC or the GTX 670 which one would you choose and why?
I am leaning towards the AMD card due to the cooling and overclocking potential


:hello:  If you're going to run single monitor setup go for the 670 b/c of the better "eye candy" potential with physX and IMO I tend to see more people leaning for Nvidia cards over AMD for single card options. If you plan on sometime down the road going with multi-monitor setup go 7970 as eyefinity dominates nvidia surround. OC is going to come down to how hard you're actually going to push the card, if not to hard then just stick with 670 if not then go 7970. Whatever way you decide to go they are both very good choices. In summary, single monitor=670 multi-monitor (down the road) 7970
a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 2:28:51 AM

I'd go with the 7970 regardless as it outperforms the 670 and can overclock to equal 680 or 7970 Ghz edition performance. I personally would rather run higher AA settings for eye candy than have Physx which isn't even supported on all games.
a c 92 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 7:14:12 AM

I'd suggest just going with the 7950 since it give enough performance for everything you'd need it for and OCs like a boss. There really isn't much difference between the 2 once you OC both to the max.
October 7, 2012 9:16:33 AM

OK. I'm gonna wait a while and see how much money I can save up but Im looking at either the
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 OC £235
or the
Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC £308
Is it really worth it if I can overclock the 7950 to perform better than the stock 7970?
I might do a dual screen setup some time in the future.
I will be playing games like Crysis (1), BattleField 3, Civilisation V, Need for speed Hot Pursuit, Skyrim and the Total War series.
Thanks again
a c 92 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 5:47:25 PM

reubenno said:
OK. I'm gonna wait a while and see how much money I can save up but Im looking at either the
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 OC £235
or the
Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 OC £308
Is it really worth it if I can overclock the 7950 to perform better than the stock 7970?
I might do a dual screen setup some time in the future.
I will be playing games like Crysis (1), BattleField 3, Civilisation V, Need for speed Hot Pursuit, Skyrim and the Total War series.
Thanks again

you don't even need to OC to max those games on a 7950.
October 7, 2012 6:38:32 PM

Thanks. Is it really worth the extra money for the slight future proofing?
a c 92 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 6:49:38 PM

I don't believe in future proofing so no. Everything gets outdated pretty fast so the 10% difference isn't going to make it more useful for longer.
October 7, 2012 7:05:57 PM

Okay I will probably just go for the Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 due to the cooling.
Thanks everyone for the help :) 
October 7, 2012 7:36:25 PM

Plus I can overclock it to perform as well as a stock 7970 anyway.
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