Dual Graphics = not recommended? enlighten me

[hardasrock]

Hello, I'm planning to buy A10-5800k and a 6670. I had read an article for the past month that cross-firing (Dual Graphics) the integrated graphics of the APU with the 6670 will give you a better performance overall, especially in games. But as I'm looking for reviews yesterday, a lot of people do not recommend of using the Dual Graphic feature. They say that when your planning to buy a discrete graphic card, just forget to buy the AMD APU's and buy an Intel. Is this really true? Please enlighten me as I don't have enough money to buy an Intel system. All I want is to play GTA IV (may'be V in the future), Sims 3, GW2, some photoshop and for everyday computing. I want to improve the performance of the APU as much as possible, if you don't recommend the Dual Graphics, will a 1866 RAM help? or 1600 mhz is more than enough?

 

[JJ1217]

If you are going to play GTA IV with a 6670, oh boy will you be screwed over. Lets just say its one of the worst games performance wise for PC, even making some cards crumble, thats especially on 1080p. You wouldn't even get decent fps at 720p with minimal settings with that card.

 

[hardasrock]

In a dual graphics? Hmm. I had seen this video on youtube where he's playing the GTA IV with a a10-5800k and without a discrete graphics card. And it is playable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjE2E35q_E

 

[JJ1217]

It doesn't look like 1080p at all, and the graphics are at minimum. It looks like 720p to me. and I was just talking about your 6670.

 

[JJ1217]

And thats around 20 fps, and trust me, I'm an avid player of GTA IV with ICenhancer. Its not very playable at those frames.

 

[hardasrock]

I see, if i change the CPU into i3-3220 with a 7770, will it run in medium settings? or if you have some suggestion, please kindly tell it to me ). thanks in advance.

 

[robthatguyx]

what is your budget on everything and what do you have already? i really dont recommend crossfireing with an apu, and anything over 1600mhz is just for benchmarking you wont notice any difference in everyday applications even heavy gaming

 

[hardasrock]

$600, I already have O.S and other computer peripherals such as speaker, mouse, keyboard.

 

[hardasrock]

is it possible to build a mid range gaming computer within that budget?

 

[Deleted member 362816]

gtx 480=170$ Via newegg, Yall can hate on the card for being hot but it will play gta 4 at med settings with ease

 

[dudewitbow]

trying to set up a on the spot quick build atm give me a few minutes

 

[JJ1217]

is it possible to build a mid range gaming computer within that budget?

i5 3570k -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
MSI Z68A-->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621
Sapphire HD 7850 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999
Corsair CX500 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
4GB DDR3 Ram --> couldn't find any decent ones on newegg, look elsewhere for it. I estimated it at around $25
Coolermaster Elite 430 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227
Seagate 1.5 TB 7200RPM --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337

Total without Rebates : $695
Total with Rebates : $640

Fairly barebones, but its a good pc and will last. Ram can always be added on later if you so desire.

 

[dudewitbow]

Rushed build:

1tb WD caviar blue
1gb version 7850
G.skill ares
Asrock Z75 pro3
Rosewill Redbone + 650w hive
i3-3220 + lg drive

using promo mem106, mb106, cpu106

total: 588.86

 

[Deleted member 362816]

i5 3570k -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
MSI Z68A-->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130621
Sapphire HD 7850 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999
Corsair CX500 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
4GB DDR3 Ram --> couldn't find any decent ones on newegg, look elsewhere for it. I estimated it at around $25
Coolermaster Elite 430 -->http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227

Total without Rebates : $625
Total with Rebates : $570

Fairly barebones, give me $675 to work with and I'll give you much better ram, and motherboard.

A 3570k is overkill for a midrange gaming pc, save the dosh on the cpu and get a better gpu.

 

[robthatguyx]

jj1217s build may cost more but is much more future proof and in the future you could overclock with a new cooler

 

[Deleted member 362816]

jj1217s build may cost more but is much more future proof and in the future you could overclock with a new cooler

I dont see how a 500 watt psu and 4 gb's of ram are futur proof.

 

[dudewitbow]

you can always add more ram later, but the thing which seperates his and the build i set up on a different post is that hes making the assumption that OP already has a Hard drive and disk drive. I based my build on what im 100% sure OP has stated on the post that he has keyboard, mouse, monitor and OS(without mention of a hard drive)

 

[robthatguyx]

500w because even a 670 at full load wont pull more than that needs and ram can always be upgraded, the cpu and motherboard make it more future proof because the 3570k is more powerful than the i3 3220, let alone it being a dual core and the 3570k being quad the k is overclockable and im sure hes going to end up playing games that run much better on a quad than a dual

 

[Deleted member 362816]

you can always add more ram later, but the thing which seperates his and the build i set up on a different post is that hes making the assumption that OP already has a Hard drive and disk drive. I based my build on what im 100% sure OP has stated on the post that he has keyboard, mouse, monitor and OS(without mention of a hard drive)

I agree with your build its a midrange build. There is no such thing as futur proof its 2012 look at the options. Clearly we are only a few years away from Intel being a Monolpoly.

 

[JJ1217]

Ah right my bad, I was meaning to add a HDD, but then I rushed it, I'll edit it in a minute. The ram is always upgradeable, you can always add another 4 GB if you want.

500W PSU is good enough for now, if hes on a mid budget, we don't need an overkill 800W PSU.

 

[Deleted member 362816]

Ah right my bad, I was meaning to add a HDD, but then I rushed it, I'll edit it in a minute. The ram is always upgradeable, you can always add another 4 GB if you want.

500W PSU is good enough for now, if hes on a mid budget, we don't need an overkill 800W PSU.

a 3570k is 100% overkill at $200+ for a midrange cpu. Also did the op say he would overclock? whats the point of getting a "K" cpu another great example of everyone at TOMS assuming people are going to overclock.

 

[JJ1217]

a 3570k is 100% overkill at $200+ for a midrange cpu. Also did the op say he would overclock? whats the point of getting a "K" cpu another great example of everyone at TOMS assuming people are going to overclock.

And your assuming that he won't. It doesn't matter whether he gets a K or not, its there for a reason, and if he chooses to, he can. Better not to restrict someone's build who doesn't tell us what he wants than to restrict them if you don't know what HE wants.

If hes released little to no information on the specifics, then I will build what I think is best for him. A 3570k with a 7850 works perfectly fine, its a budget mid range build but its solid and it works.

 

[robthatguyx]

a 3570k is 100% overkill at $200+ for a midrange cpu. Also did the op say he would overclock? whats the point of getting a "K" cpu another great example of everyone at TOMS assuming people are going to overclock.

because most people feel better knowing they can overclock eventually if they feel the desire to

 

[Deleted member 362816]

because most people feel better knowing they can overclock eventually if they feel the desire to

Lmao a 3570k is a waste here by the time the op can afford to upgrade the rest of the rig the 3570k will be outdated, Intel enjoys a short product life.

 

[JJ1217]

Lmao a 3570k is a waste here by the time the op can afford to upgrade the rest of the rig the 3570k will be outdated, Intel enjoys a short product life.

Would you please stop being such a dbag? All your doing is talking while offering no better alternative.