Nvidia GTX 660 or ATI 7850!!

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I have two choices infront of me ..1. nvidia gtx 660(non ti) and 2.ATI Radeon 7850..
The Max Resolution my monitor can support is 1600*900.
I would like to get ur opinion on which card suits me more and probably perform better...??

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intel i5-2400, 8gb ddr3 ram, cooler master (500w).

 
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If you're willing to buy a 660 Ti, why not get a 7950 instead? Power consumption between them is almost identical in gaming and the 7950 can actually use less power when not gaming. It's also the better card. Is the 7950 much more expensive for you or something like that? They should have similar prices.

Of course, the 660 still performs rather close to the 660 Ti while using a lot less power and being much cheaper, so if you want a Nvidia card, then I'd recommend a 660. It won't be as good as the 7950, but the 660 is cheaper and uses less power, unlike the 660 Ti that is...
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Why aren't you considering a 7870?

It's kinda a wash between the 7870 and the 660 with the 7870 generally having a slight advantage, The 7850 is usually a cheaper card than the 660, so they're not directly comparable in that sense. The 7850 generally performs worse than the 660, but does better when overclocked.
 
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i live in india..but will be visiting UK next month and im planning to get the card frm there..i chekd with their sites and i dont see much difference in the price ranges of 7850 and 660!!
 
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Look, when your really at neck and neck, which really the 660 and 7870 is, they trade too many blows to say which is better. Thats when you go to the fine points about the card.

256 bit memory interface on the 7870, compared to 192 on the 660, 7870 wins.

660 draws a tiny bit less power than a 7870, therefore 660 wins there.

7870 wins comprehensively both in texel rate and pixel rate against the 660, 7870 wins.

7870 is built more for overclocking than the 660, however this is too random to actually give a verdict, as you can get a crap overclock with the 7870, however, just keep in mind your more likely to get a good overclock than a crap one.

Really overall, the 7870 and 660 both have their advantages depending on which games you play.

If you like high resolutions with AA, go with the 7870. If you play at 1080p with no AA, but still crank the settings up at the same level as the 7870, then typically the 660 will win.

It really depends on which game is optimized for which card, however unfortunately, typically games are more tuned towards Nvidia cards, however this doesn't mean much, as Nvidia cards are still beaten by some ATI cards in Nvidia games.
 
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This is wat im looking to get..

http://www.overclock.co.uk/product/Gigabyte-2048MB-GDDR5-GeForce-GTX-660-Overclocked-WindForce-DP-2xDVI-HDMI-PCI-E-Retail_44666.html

This one is 7870 at the same site..
http://www.overclock.co.uk/product/XFX-2048MB-GDDR5-AMD-ATI-Radeon-HD-7870-DVI-I-HDMI-Mini-DisplayPort-PCI-E-Retail-with-Free-Dirt-Showdown_44337.html

I prefer nvidia more than ati coz of the physx cuda, and more stable drivers from them...

Seein benchmark tests, icame to knw 660 performs close to 7870 and outperforms it in some games..
 
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I dont mind getting 4-6 fps less than 7870...i guess the 660 comes close to the 7870..whereas the price range is not that close!!
 
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"A lot"
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/images/perfrel.gif
Yeah DUDE. 7870 ******* owns that ***. It's like, mike tyson vs my grandma, one punch in her arm or something and her entire skeleton explodes like antimatter, wiping out an entire city. Goood DAyoom. I bet when the 7870 stares a 7850 down it basically shorts out on its own so it doesn't make a fool out of itself anymore in front of the greatness that 7870 possesses. *** yeah also don't remember the 5 fps difference that those cards have in BF3! amazing.
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. And of course its better just because it wants to, not because it's overclocked to 1ghz+ and most 7850 have 800-900mhz. It just ******* wants to be awesome, and its will is made manifest. How cool is that? Cooler than that lame ass 7850.
Have fun with 2 less fps in Battlfield3, 7850-users.

Damn, I'd like... kill myself if I had a 7850... oh wait I do. Excuse me gentlemen. Hmm, maybe I can just take my 7850 with me when I go to the computer shop in my neighborhood, the 7870 will launch ICBM's the second it detects my crappy 7850, It will wipe me out and hopefully, if I position myself next to some hipster kids, I can kill some annoying kiddos while I'm dying. Hi five Kamen_Bg!
 
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If i was you between a 7850 or a 660 i would choose the 660 if you can bump your budget up a little get the 7950 if not MSI Radeon HD 7870 HAWK is the MSI Lightning's smaller brother. It uses the company's signature Twin Frozr II dual-fan cooler. MSI has also increased the clock speeds of the HD 7870 HAWK to 1100 MHz GPU and 1200 MHz memory.If not get ASUS HD 7870 DCUII TOP, using a custom heatsink and increased clock rates of 1150 MHz GPU and 1250 MHz memory, which should provide a nice performance boost over the reference design. Both cards = http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDjj7jW6ny2M&ei=FIRxUJO3H62UjAL8jIHgDA&usg=AFQjCNEgw9oe6jfdjpP8a5vry5uFksFbTA&sig2=haWUV4U1RsEC9rFi4fXoAw +++ http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dg2wD5TaMf2k&ei=QYRxUK74GsfNigLW4oCgAQ&usg=AFQjCNHyMPeYoxxDEOy8p-kZ9EUwHKkJZg&sig2=cjze-633cwt-kGQSI-0HPg&cad=rja lol..
 
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I like Asus for the fact that all components of their cards are non reference, normally I would say I would rather a reference PCB so I can use a watercooling block, but seeing as the cooling is fantastic on DCII cards, you don't really need to watercool when you buy the card, you might as well buy another card.
 
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yeaah.... too bad the 7850 is better than the gtx660 if you're a pro and you overclock (pro meaning typing "1050" in the CCC overdrive menu), making your gpu better than the gtx660 and if you overclock higher like 1100mhz,which is easily attainable on this gpu, (I've seen people get even 1300-1350mhz, 90% people can easily get to 1200mhz at low voltages) you will easily beat stock 7870 performance and clock by clock 7870 and 7850 is practically equal, unless you're superman's son and can discern between 50 and 55fps (10% difference) or 100 and 110.

7870 owns 7850 so hard it gets 5 more fps in bf3 and everyone on the internet starts recommending it against the 7850.
I'm not saying it's weaker, it's a slightly better card, but only get it if it's near the price of a 7850, 7870 is basically a 7850 with a high factory overclock, raise 7850 clock from the crappy stock 850-something to 7870's 1ghz+ and you'll notice improvemenets and both card start to get very very near, a couple of fps close.


God damn it a few months ago people used the word "owns" when something actually owned something, not beat it by 5 fps. You guys remind me of the kids who write gpu reviews and spew bullshit like "here the gtx680 is clearly superior to the wimpy 7970, owning the *** out of it and making a fool out of amd by being faster with 1 fps, 101 fps instead of 100fps in X game, AMD prepare for bankruptcy"

Guess now sports presenters will start saying that saying now that athlete 1 mopped the floor with athlete 2 when he crossed the finish line 0.1 seconds sooner. That's basically the same thing you're doing now. Call me a fanboy but I can't stand people who start perpetuating bullshit everywhere. 7870=7850 and you should consider a 7870 only when it's as cheap as a 7850, don't go out of your way to get a 7870, buy the cheapest 7870 or 7850 you can find (get the 2gb version of 7850 if you want), theyre both great cards but don't say card #1 totally owns the *** out of the other, said card being on a another level compared to the wimpy card #2 who struggles in every game, they're the same *** unless you love to count frames during gaming and like having a couple of fps more, fps difference that can be reduced a lot if you actually set the cards to the same clocks, thing that is extremely easy to do, even a monkey can do it, just look at my avatar and you will see I'm living proof of this.
 
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Yeah, that's what I was talking about, this gpu is a monster, same for the 7870, but they're basically equal in terms of power, and no 7850 isn't "out of 7870's league", they're basically the same thing, it's just that most 7870 can overclock a bit higher than most 7850, but differences in clock to clock are like around 5-10% I don't call that a big difference, It's basically non existent, and clearly not a proof of one card "obliterating" the other, stop doing what shitty reviewers do and stop saying that a card is beat by another just because it has a few less fps, they're EQUAL.

That's an awesome overclock man, the highest I've ever seen for a 7850 and for a 7870, I only managed to get to 1300mhz at 1.225 (max voltage in the OC tool I use, asus gputweak) which is unstable, 1250 being perfectly stable since I could run 3dmark11 and get almost P7000, but I mostly use 1200mhz at 1.150v so I don't have to worry about heat and other things (fan can be set at a silent speed and temps are still under 50-60C in intensive games). But maybe you can lower your memory speed to 1375mhz which from my experience is the peak for memory performance and be able to get an even higher OC if you can.

What type of cooling are you using btw?
 
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Instead of making blanket statements about how far i can oc or how far any card can i rather stay on topic and show you some proof and help you pick the right card based on your needs.Because you don't pick a card based on overclocking as there is no such thing as a Guarantee oc factory oc there is a such thing but manual oc is a gamble no for sure you'll hit this high stable anybody tells you that don't believe it.

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OP is talking about 16x9 res and you keep debating about whichever card is better... at that res. any of those cards will satisfy the OP. So conclusion 1: get whichever is cheaper if you don't plan to upgrade your screen to full HD (1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitor) soon. Conclusion 2: get 7870 if you are going to buy a full HD screen in the near future
 
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My bad i got this thread mixed up with another like it sorry op well i agree to above comment gets whichever cheaper i also check to see which favors the games you mostly play.Also can check those links though and see the correct res there is benchmarks of that as well anyway good luck!
 
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