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Radeon HD 6970 - Near 100% usage on Skyrim

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October 7, 2012 2:30:58 PM

Hey, I have a problem with my GPU here regarding high usage and temperatures.

Basically, the idle temperature is around 65 Celsius and when I start up skyrim the usage skyrockets up to 97-99% and the temperature goes up to 85 degrees, so my fan goes to 50% speed. It's very noisy and it doesn't stop the GPU from overheating. The game isn't even maxed out.

Thanks in advance.

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a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 2:42:40 PM

Graphics cards should awlays work at their maximum in order to deliver good frame rates.In other words if it doesnt work at 100% THEN there is a problem.Your GPU temperature is also pretty normal for a card with a reference cooler and 50% fan speed isn't much at all.You'll have a problem if it reaches 100% and your card still runs at more than 90 degrees.

With that said you've got NO problem at all.You cooler is meant to be loud.
October 7, 2012 2:45:02 PM

Hello there :hello: 

That doesn't sound too good. How well ventilated is your case? These cards nowadays can handle 85 degrees no problem, but it is best to try and keep them as low as you can (obviously)
I have noticed that CCC uses the fans pretty stupidly, they go all out when they get hot then turn right down again, which isn't really the best way to keep a regulated temperature. You could try manually setting the fans to 30% - 40% so they are constantly at that speed, which would regulate the cards heat better.

Also, your usage shouldn't be that high. The age old thing, but have you installed the most recent CCC drivers? If so, try a complete uninstall then reinstall of the drivers, using driver sweeper in safe mode to make sure you get rid of everything before reinstalling.

How is the performance in game?

Chris.
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October 7, 2012 2:45:21 PM

Oh god dammit. So there's no way I can get rid of the noise except by not playing the game?
October 7, 2012 2:47:47 PM

Aaah, of course it should be at 100% load, I was thinking of my 5970 which has two cores, and only one is fully used sometimes :whistle: 

Chris.
October 7, 2012 2:48:47 PM

Major_Cj said:
Hello there :hello: 

That doesn't sound too good. How well ventilated is your case? These cards nowadays can handle 85 degrees no problem, but it is best to try and keep them as low as you can (obviously)
I have noticed that CCC uses the fans pretty stupidly, they go all out when they get hot then turn right down again, which isn't really the best way to keep a regulated temperature. You could try manually setting the fans to 30% - 40% so they are constantly at that speed, which would regulate the cards heat better.

Also, your usage shouldn't be that high. The age old thing, but have you installed the most recent CCC drivers? If so, try a complete uninstall then reinstall of the drivers, using driver sweeper in safe mode to make sure you get rid of everything before reinstalling.

How is the performance in game?

Chris.


The performance is not really great unless I turn off AA and AF, which I did to cool down the GPU. If I set the fans to 40% the temperature keeps going up, so I don't want to take any risks. My case is a Raidmax Saggitarius, I don't know if that helps.

Anyway, thanks for the driver tip, I'll try I full driver reinstall.
October 7, 2012 2:53:32 PM

What resolution do you play at?

When I play Skyrim, I always set the games AF to off and set the AF in CCC to full (Try a little at a time) It's much better using AF through CCC with Skyrim.
I play at 2048x1152, so I only have AA set to x2, but I don't really need that because of the high resolution.

Chris.
October 7, 2012 3:00:40 PM

Major_Cj said:
What resolution do you play at?

When I play Skyrim, I always set the games AF to off and set the AF in CCC to full (Try a little at a time) It's much better using AF through CCC with Skyrim.
I play at 2048x1152, so I only have AA set to x2, but I don't really need that because of the high resolution.

Chris.


I play at 1920x1080.
October 7, 2012 3:12:09 PM

Aah, well I wouldn't think that you would need to apply more than 2-4 x anti aliasing to have a good time.
If it's still killing your performance, you could always disable AA and try FXAA (found in the advanced graphics tab in the Skyrim launcher.) It blurs edges to make them look better. It's slightly less good looking than other forms of AA, but it's much quicker.

Chris.
October 7, 2012 3:53:49 PM

Major_Cj said:
Aah, well I wouldn't think that you would need to apply more than 2-4 x anti aliasing to have a good time.
If it's still killing your performance, you could always disable AA and try FXAA (found in the advanced graphics tab in the Skyrim launcher.) It blurs edges to make them look better. It's slightly less good looking than other forms of AA, but it's much quicker.

Chris.


No, it doesn't kill my performance, and I don't really need AA at all, it's just that my fan is noisy and my GPU is hot and I want to fix this.
a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 4:04:31 PM

If you're getting over 60fps, turn Vsync On.
October 7, 2012 4:05:29 PM

azathoth said:
If you're getting over 60fps, turn Vsync On.

I always play with Vsync on.
a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 4:10:00 PM

Looking at that case I would have to wonder how well it is getting the excess heat out of the case. There did not seem to be a lot of fan options from what I could see. So if the excess heat is not able to get out then the inside temp is just going rise thus making all your components hotter.
October 7, 2012 4:11:36 PM

bryonhowley said:
Looking at that case I would have to wonder how well it is getting the excess heat out of the case. There did not seem to be a lot of fan options from what I could see. So if the excess heat is not able to get out then the inside temp is just going rise thus making all your components hotter.


So should I get a new case?
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 4:34:23 PM

Before getting a new case, take off the side panel to see how much it helps.

Loud fans are just a part of having so much heat produced by many of today's more powerful cards(over 200 watts with the right games).

I do not think 85c is overheating my any means.
October 7, 2012 4:47:33 PM

What's the maximum temp of the 6970?
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 4:58:13 PM

Over 90-95 you are getting to a point of too much heat(I think AMD may have spec'd something like 105 , but not 100% sure). You will know, that fan can get a lot louder.

The only reason it is more quiet at no load is that the card clocks way down to save power.

Did you try with the side panel of the case off? Also if you have had the card for a while. blowing the dust out may help too.
October 7, 2012 5:26:56 PM

nukemaster said:
Over 90-95 you are getting to a point of too much heat(I think AMD may have spec'd something like 105 , but not 100% sure). You will know, that fan can get a lot louder.

The only reason it is more quiet at no load is that the card clocks way down to save power.

Did you try with the side panel of the case off? Also if you have had the card for a while. blowing the dust out may help too.


I tried taking the side panel off buy the PC BSOD'd. The card was also recently dusted, helped a lot too. After a complete driver reinstall the usage seems to stay at around 55% and the temperature at around 85 degrees with a fan speed of 50%. The GPU is also clocked at 880 MHz, the default setting, though I have tried lower settings too.
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 7:25:31 PM

after you crashes taking the side off, did it boot back up normal?
October 8, 2012 5:10:57 AM

nukemaster said:
after you crashes taking the side off, did it boot back up normal?


I put it back on before the BSOD, but I'm quite sure it would have booted up, yes.
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 3:13:45 PM

I would shut it down and remove the side panel and run it a bit to see how much the temps are helped. if it is lots, chances are you have a case air flow issue.

I am trying to see if the card will run noticeably cooler(10c +) with the side off

Maybe you have some loose cables that caused you to blue screen when the case was bumped/shaken to remove/reinstall the side panel. I would check to ensure all cables/card/memory are tight and full seated.
October 8, 2012 4:45:57 PM

nukemaster said:
I would shut it down and remove the side panel and run it a bit to see how much the temps are helped. if it is lots, chances are you have a case air flow issue.

I am trying to see if the card will run noticeably cooler(10c +) with the side off

Maybe you have some loose cables that caused you to blue screen when the case was bumped/shaken to remove/reinstall the side panel. I would check to ensure all cables/card/memory are tight and full seated.


Actually, I don't think it would boot up with the panel off, because lately it's been acting up. My right speaker doesn't work unless the PC and the subwoofer are in certain spots and sometimes it refuses to boot unless the panel is on and the PC is in a certain spot on the floor.
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 4:53:35 PM

Then you have more problems to deal with.

The speakers could be something as simple as a bad audio cable.
October 8, 2012 5:29:04 PM

nukemaster said:
Then you have more problems to deal with.

The speakers could be something as simple as a bad audio cable.


What could that be from? CPU, motherboard, GPU? The PC starts, USB initializes, but nothing comes up on either of my displays and Windows doesn't boot. Sorry to turn this into a general problem thread, any idea where I could post this thing to?
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 5:38:07 PM

I think it would go in the home built section.

Has it always done this, or is this more recent? Do you have any overclocking?

The speakers should be easy to test with a mp3player/cell phone or anything. Just plug it in and move the cord around. if it works, the problem may be the jack on the system or something else. If it is the jack and you have onboard sound, you may be able to map another plug(black if you are just using 2.1 sound) to run them for testing.
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 9:02:12 PM

num3rical said:
Hey, I have a problem with my GPU here regarding high usage and temperatures.

Basically, the idle temperature is around 65 Celsius and when I start up skyrim the usage skyrockets up to 97-99% and the temperature goes up to 85 degrees, so my fan goes to 50% speed. It's very noisy and it doesn't stop the GPU from overheating. The game isn't even maxed out.

Thanks in advance.


I just tested... I play Skyrim in Ultra settings... 6950 but BIOS updated to make it a 6970 (It a Sapphire)
I play in 1920 x 1200
I just ran around a bit in open land and panned camera around a lot for about 5 mins ... did not have Uber busy fight/spell casting.
My GPU idels at around 45 degrees C with core at 250 and Mem at 150 MHz
At peak - it was at 97% Usage with core at 880 and Mem at 1350 MHz
Temp peaked at 80 and Fans (idle about 24% 1000RPM) peaked at 35% 1750 RPM
At these speeds - dont notice any real increase in noise.. .game sounds drown out any slight increase.
Forgot to check what frame rates I was getting - but it was very smooth.

Rest of sys is i7 920 OC'd to 3.33GHz
6GB Mem...
Drivers are 12.8... but standard... I dont tweak drivers.

Anyway - HTH... gives you something to compare.... If you have specific questions or want me check a setting etc - just post.
Cheers


a c 116 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 9:28:49 PM

Yoji and num3rical

Can you post links to the exact cards you have. Some have different coolers.

I know I have never seen 50% on my 5870, but 80-85 is normal with more demanding games for it.
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 9:49:36 PM

Post all your specs.
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 9:56:48 PM

At 80-85 degrees your fan is only at 50%? Get it whacked up to at least 90%. The fan is there to be used, would you rather the gpu be noisy or broken? Also that does seem like a high idle temp, mine at idle is only about 28. Are you sure you have the correct voltage going to the card?
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 11:30:32 PM

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nukemaster said:
Yoji and num3rical

Can you post links to the exact cards you have. Some have different coolers.

I know I have never seen 50% on my 5870, but 80-85 is normal with more demanding games for it.


Here you go - this is mine http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/sapphire_hd_6950_review/index4.php

Like I said though - I flashed it to unlock the extra shaders- so it is in fact now a 6970.

MOBO is an ASUS..P6T Delux V2
and Case is a Cosmos S http://www.coolermaster.com/microsite/Cosmos_S/ so good airflow

Let me know if you need more detail

Cheers


a c 88 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 11:54:56 PM

the idle temps are way too high at 65c, no matter the cooler nor fan speed, nothing should idle that high unless there's something seriously wrong with the cooler. maybe it's still full of dust, not making proper contact with the chip, leaked heatpipes or something...

a c 116 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 12:42:04 AM

Kari said:
the idle temps are way too high at 65c, no matter the cooler nor fan speed, nothing should idle that high unless there's something seriously wrong with the cooler. maybe it's still full of dust, not making proper contact with the chip, leaked heatpipes or something...

4870 :)  those suckers idle high, but the fan spins very slow.

Yoji, A reference cooler. Always found them to be more then good enough, just a tad loud but very solid reliable cooler(i like the heat pushing out the back).
October 9, 2012 5:15:39 AM

nukemaster said:
Yoji and num3rical

Can you post links to the exact cards you have. Some have different coolers.

I know I have never seen 50% on my 5870, but 80-85 is normal with more demanding games for it.


[link=http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...]Sapphire Radeon HD 6970[/link].
October 9, 2012 6:16:02 AM

amuffin said:
Maybe you should re apply paste, or take on this mod


What paste?
a c 109 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 6:18:24 AM

Any paste should work.
a b U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 1:36:55 PM

amuffin said:
Any paste should work.


Fish paste? Tooth paste? wallpaper paste?
a c 88 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 3:23:47 PM

lolno, thermal interface material paste. TIM for short
like arctic silver 5 and what have you..
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 3:54:58 PM

The only thing that worries me about asking people to redo the past on current cards is the user of thermal transfer pads on the VRMS and Memory. Sometimes those need to be replaced as well.

But yeah, 50% fan speed does seem high for a stock card with stock cooler.

Just in case you have never reapplied paste before, if involves removal of the heatsink fan assembly. Then you remove the old paste replace it with new stuff and reassemble it. Some users notice thermal paste breaks down after a while.

Again my only concern would be if you require new thermal pads as well.
a c 88 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 4:16:51 PM

I haven't got any hands on experience with those pads (yet :p ) but I assume they harden when aged? And I wonder if you put just a little bit of paste on the pads it might still provide good contact when alligned just right...
a c 116 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 5:41:35 PM

You can get them from most stores that sell water cooling blocks for video cards. They come in different thicknesses. 05mm 1mm and 1.5mm(they may even go thicker)

They(manufacturers) generally say not to use thermal paste with pads.

They also say not to cut and mod things, yet we do :) 

The biggest issue with the pads is that after a while they stick to the card(mem/vrm/ect) and heatsink and get damaged when removed.
a c 88 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 6:14:54 PM

^^ah ok
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