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Going from GTX 580 to GTX 660 Ti...?

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October 7, 2012 10:08:01 PM

I almost had a notion to sell a GTX 580 and try out the GTX 660Ti but after scouring the internet looking for answers, I can't see it.
the GTX 670 I do not feel like paying for and if I stay at 1080p I might be able to get away with the 660Ti.
I'm not really a Kepler fan but not going HD Radeon, this unit is really only gaming and video, no computing where Kepler fails.

I have an offer for my GTX 580 of $260 and the GTX 660 Ti is $295-$310 on sale and depending which model.

so it's not a clear choice.
but I wanna make a slight change to my unit and compare.
I got a strange feeling that waiting for the GTX 7 series or whatever might be wise unless the GTX 670 hits a sale.

hmm.
please advise.

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a c 91 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 10:33:41 PM

doesn't the 580 give better performance ? i hear there's some good land for sale down in Florida.
October 7, 2012 10:46:31 PM

not sure about a clear cut better performer.
I think it's the 660 Ti in most benches but not certain about games.
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a c 535 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 11:06:15 PM

a c 535 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 11:07:12 PM

Wait it out until the next generation cards come out early next year.
October 7, 2012 11:12:29 PM

is that what you are doing as well.?
any overclock on your 580.?
a c 535 U Graphics card
October 7, 2012 11:17:11 PM

proffet said:
is that what you are doing as well.?
any overclock on your 580.?

Overclocking hasn't been necessary for me yet on: Skyrim, COD: MW2, BFBC2, Fallout 3, and Rage. No issues running those games at full settings.

My strategy is to wait for the GK110 "Big Kepler" GTX 780 to be released early next year. I'm assuming they will refine the current Kepler cards and really come up with a nice product, similar to what they did with the GTX 480 to 580 leap. Until then, there's really no reason to upgrade to something that doesn't add anything in terms of gameplay image quality settings.
October 7, 2012 11:20:15 PM

I like the way you think....
a c 535 U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 2:04:44 AM

I think that strategy will pay off.
October 8, 2012 2:09:03 AM

Early next year? kepler? playoffs? AMD will probably hit next Jan/Feb. But unless Nvidia has been really hitting the midnight oil too change their releasing time frames. I wouldnt expect the 7xx series until summer at the earliest. Nvidia Cycles have been ~1.5 years. The 680 released in March, the 670 in May. I wouldn't hold my breath for Nvidia.

I also am trying to decide between a 660 ti and 670 atm. I will probably go 670. I am hoping that the 670 will have a better resale value come next year. So I can upgrade to the 770 for cheap. I do believe the next generation cards from AMD and Nvidia will offer huge performance boosts compared to what was gained from last gen. But they might also decide to crank up the prices too.
October 8, 2012 2:15:19 AM

I would wait for the 7XX chips... the 580 is still pretty beast and the new hardware is coming soon. I don't think you'll need to OC. I'd buy a 580 if I could afford it lol. Also, I'm sure the 7XX series will support new software and provide better graphics.
October 8, 2012 2:18:21 AM

I need to see some charts..!
gaming charts.
October 8, 2012 2:22:48 AM

:lol: 

not funny. :p 
a b U Graphics card
October 8, 2012 2:23:51 AM

maybe a 670 if you insist on an upgrade 660ti is not quite as awesome as expected
a c 109 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 6:37:25 AM

You've got a 580 lightning.

OC, NOW!
October 9, 2012 6:43:33 AM

If you can wait for the 7xx series, go for it.
October 9, 2012 7:40:26 AM

17seconds said:
Rumor central for the GTX 780:
http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700/geforce-gtx-78...

That link says the card will be based on GK114.Other news articles are also backing this and reports that if the red team doesn't throw some huge compute challenge then nvidia will carry on supplying a refurbished mid-range kepler chip namely GK114 not GK110.
Doesn't this mean we will be missing dp compute performance in this entire kepler iteration?
On the brighter side of things I expect significant bandwidth improvement from wider memory buses resulting in the cuda cores of 780 not being bottlenecked like those of the 680.
October 9, 2012 11:08:27 AM

amuffin said:
You've got a 580 lightning.

OC, NOW!

not giving up my Lighting 580 but I also have a EVGA SC 580 @ 800MHz (not much clock to it)
and that's the one I'm thinking of trading out for.
but it looks like I'm gonna stay that route (EVGA SC 580).
a c 535 U Graphics card
October 9, 2012 4:41:09 PM

proffet said:
not giving up my Lighting 580 but I also have a EVGA SC 580 @ 800MHz (not much clock to it)
and that's the one I'm thinking of trading out for.
but it looks like I'm gonna stay that route (EVGA SC 580).

SLI?

Oh wait, I see that you motherboard probably doesn't support SLI.
October 9, 2012 5:22:50 PM

not SLi, I have another set-up not listed..
and both of my motherboards listed do support SLi...
my Z77 WS even has the (nf200) chip..
October 10, 2012 4:19:08 AM

I think two 580s will serve you better...
October 15, 2012 3:16:17 PM

just a crazy update / turn of events...
I was like why the hell not...

SOLD:
EVGA GTX 590 Classified - $600
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W - $120

BOUGHT:
EVGA 02G-P4-2685-KR GeForce GTX 680 SC Signature+ w/Backplate 2GB - $450
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M - $100

now I have a few dollars left and trying to figure out what to do next...

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a c 535 U Graphics card
October 15, 2012 3:20:36 PM
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proffet said:
just a crazy update / turn of events...
I was like why the hell not...

SOLD:
EVGA GTX 590 Classified - $700
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W - $120

BOUGHT:
EVGA 02G-P4-2685-KR GeForce GTX 680 SC Signature+ w/Backplate 2GB - $450
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M - $100

now I have a few dollars left and trying to figure out what to do next...

You got great deals on both of those transactions. $700 for a 590 is highway robbery, pretty much full retail price, and the 680 for $450 is the lowest price I have seen so far.
October 15, 2012 3:21:13 PM

also some solid replies on this thread, looking for a BA top give out.
October 15, 2012 3:22:10 PM

17seconds said:
You got great deals on both of those transactions. $700 for a 590 is highway robbery, pretty much full retail price, and the 680 for $450 is the lowest price I have seen so far.

it goes against all that I have been saying about not getting a Kepler card...
but like the wind, change of direction..

edit:
$600
October 15, 2012 3:37:18 PM

its not worth switching to a 660ti if you've got a 580 now. The only benefits you'll see are in the power usage and GPU temps. just wait for the 7 Series GPU's.
a b U Graphics card
October 15, 2012 4:44:24 PM

so you got the itch for upgrading ? otherwise i dont see why anyone would want to go from gtx580 to gtx660ti. wait it out and see what nvidia does with its gtx700 series cards.
October 15, 2012 4:54:42 PM

I'm going to keep the GTX 580 since I upgraded the other unit.

but now I have the itch to upgrade something else with that unit, maybe cooling.
after that save any leftover money and just sit back.

but the conclusion is that the GTX 660 Ti might be a few frames faster in most but not all games over the GTX 580 it's not enough to justify the upgrade.
only real nVidia upgrades (gaming sense) is the GTX 670/680 models.
October 15, 2012 4:56:35 PM

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