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October 9, 2012 5:01:11 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week

BUDGET RANGE: USD 250-350 before rebates

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: My main focus right now is Borderlands 2, and the main reason I made this post, because I've tried using the physx feature with my ATI card, but it just slows the game down too much. I've read I would need an nvidia card. Besides borderlands 2, I do plan on buying more games in the future.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: Radeon HD 7770 and COOLER MASTER, Silent Pro M 850W PSU

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10 GHz, MoBo: ASUS, P8Z77-V LK, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-2400 MoBo, RAM: 8G Crucial Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 DDR3.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: I prefer newegg.com, I live in New Jersey.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I don't mind ATI cards, but obviously it seems I'm going to need nvidia for the feature I want.

OVERCLOCKING: I don't know much about overclocking.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I'm not even sure if this is exactly what I need, but in case it is, I figured I'd lay out all my info, so there it is. Thanks in advance.
October 9, 2012 6:26:18 AM

I would save up a little bit more money and buy a 670.

These look like the best ones to choose from:

Gigabyte Windforce: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA FTW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus DirectCU II: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI PE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Me personally, I would get either the Asus one or the EVGA FTW one. It's your call of course.
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October 9, 2012 10:22:27 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. I might just do that. Besides the fact that I want to run physx well, is my video card my bottleneck?
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October 9, 2012 10:44:37 PM

Nvidia isn't the only game in town and you can have the best of both worlds if you decided to use two cards. A 7870 or a 7950 along with a cheap 8800/9800gt for dedicated physx then you won't have to worry about hardware related issues. On some GTX6xx series cards there are problems with stability in both 2D and 3D uses and not to leave out the coil squeal issue that does drive some users nuts.

Avoid XFX and HIS for AMD cards, as for Nvidia avoid EVGA. Asus and MSI makes the best gtx6xx series cards.
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October 10, 2012 1:35:53 AM

BigMack70 said:
Avoid XFX? :heink:  ...
Avoid EVGA?? :heink:  :heink:  ...
Stability problems on GTX 6xx series cards??? :heink:  :heink:  :heink:  ...
Coil squeal a problem primarily on GTX 6xx cards???? :heink:  :heink:  :heink:  :heink:  ...

Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.

Anyways, a 670 would be superior to any of those solutions based on his needs, and a 660 is a good bit cheaper.

Also, not everyone wants to go through the process of setting up Hybrid PhysX. If he's not planning on overclocking, I'm doubting he cares about hybrid PhysX.


Wow! You must not read any of the complaints that are posted daily in this section. I wouldn't be surprised that you are one of those rich kids that never have to worry about money.
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October 10, 2012 2:02:11 AM

BigMack70 said:
You're just trolling a bunch of nonsense. Your make tons of wild claims that you don't back up with anything because they're nonsensical. XFX and EVGA are two of the most well known and respected brands. Every company will have a small number of cases where a consumer has a bad experience with them, that's normal. You're barking up the wrong tree(s) if you're trying to call a company out for systematic quality issues.

And there's just as many random stability problems with Radeon cards as Nvidia's... so I have no idea what you're talking about there. Just do a search through these forums for "AMD Driver crashed" and I guarantee you'll get just as many results as for "Nvidia driver crashed".

And the icing on the cake is the nonsense about coil whine being a GTX 6xx series problem. Let me help you out with that one.

:pfff: 


OK rich kid just go buy his cards for him and be done with this thread but don't say that I didn't warn you when he comes back complaining of hearing noises only to have a bsod. I also will make a point that by now you have not shown any sort of knowledge in electrical engineering and theory. If you knew anything you would have understood what I was talking about the inductors on these cards have short life spans and how they degrade over time but good luck. Middle and upper class people such as your selves have much bigger bank accounts than common sense.
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a c 595 U Graphics card
October 10, 2012 2:51:06 AM

For that price range, shopping on Newegg, at $350 after rebates you're in a awkward spot price wise. The GTX 660 Ti's are all $280 - $340, and the GTX 670's start at $360 or $370. So I would try to bump up to a GTX 670 if possible. The Galaxy and PNY GTX 670's are the cheapest at $360:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Otherwise, within your price range, I would recommend the Galaxy GTX 660 Ti 3GB for $340. Which costs a little more, but I like it for several reasons: all custom components, custom cooling that is very quiet, a factory overclock of 1006 mhz, and an extra GB of memory that runs in a symmetrical bandwidth configuration.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/16/galaxy_geforc...

To save money, and still get one of the best GTX 660 Ti's, I would go for the MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition for $300:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Next choice, even cheaper is the Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti Windforce 2x for $290:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A roundup of GTX 660 Ti's including the ones listed above (the KFA2 model is exactly the same as the Galaxy GC model listed above, from the same manufacturer).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/asus-...

You'll still get decent framerates with High PhysX in Borderlands 2 on a GTX 660 Ti, but the GTX 670 will be a little better, enough to be worth the extra cost in my opinion:
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/software/pc-games/3...
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/01/borderlands_2...
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Borderlands...

Lastly, in regards to the old ATI PhsyX hack, the days of that working well are fading away as it only works with older drivers.
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October 10, 2012 4:50:45 PM

Thanks guys for all the help. I decided to go over my budget a bit and buy one of the GTX 670's listed here.
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October 10, 2012 4:51:27 PM

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