Asus 7770 2GB VS Asus 650 TI

[Wazzup4567]

Hello, with the new 650 Ti out, I would like to know which of these two cards would run games better.

EX Games would be LA Noire, Just Cause 2, GTA IV, Borderlands 2, etc.

And the two cards,

Asus 650 Ti

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121669

Asus 7770 2GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121642

 

[XXStavrosXX]

Asus 650 Ti is a better choice. 2GB VRAM is a waste on 7770.

I like more the Gigabyte version of 650ti

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125447

650ti is generally a solid GPU, unless you can spare some more money to buy a 7850 (right now it is a better deal)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

then this is the way to go.

 

[nforce4max]

I find it interesting that the very day am new nvidia card comes it is the only recommendation. How many of you guys are paid by Nvidia? Get any free gear and kickbacks?

Yes the 2GB version does pull ahead in skyrim but all the rest it doesn't make much of a difference to notice when compared to other cards. Aim higher and get a 7850 then overclock it

 

[Ironslice]

I find it interesting that the very day am new nvidia card comes it is the only recommendation. How many of you guys are paid by Nvidia? Get any free gear and kickbacks?

Yes the 2GB version does pull ahead in skyrim but all the rest it doesn't make much of a difference to notice when compared to other cards. Aim higher and get a 7850 then overclock it

Are you being payed by AMD, or just completely biased? The GTX 650 ti owns the 7770, whichever version it might be. The 7850 is another story though, if he wants to pay the extra.

 

[funguseater]

The 650ti and 7770 are good cards but the HD6870 still beats out both of them based on Toms newest charts, and its cheap.

Fungi

 

[XXStavrosXX]

I find it interesting that the very day am new nvidia card comes it is the only recommendation. How many of you guys are paid by Nvidia? Get any free gear and kickbacks?

Yes the 2GB version does pull ahead in skyrim but all the rest it doesn't make much of a difference to notice when compared to other cards. Aim higher and get a 7850 then overclock it

So you really understood that i actually recommended 650ti? I think that I am pretty clear when I say that 7850 is a better choice. But it is also more expensive and it is a bit irrelevant with the question of the topic. OP asks if 650ti or 7770 2GB on the same money is a better deal, and I answer that 650ti is stronger than 7770 so he should opt for the first.

 

[swifty_morgan]

I haven't priced the 6850 or above..... but if those are the 2 cards you have your mind set on/....... the 650 for sure. 650 sometimes clobbers the 7770. ( guru3d )

 

[proffet]

650Ti is not worth the price, HD 7850 is a better GPU but I do like having PhysX, GTX 660 maybe.?
HD 7770 = MEH..

[flash=560,315]http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/UgnS4Uu15ms?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash]

 

[Wazzup4567]

So in comparison then, the 6870 would be the better choice out of the two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521

What would be the closest comparison to the 6870 Nvidea (and Price) Wise?

Im looking for a card that is about Sub $180



My rig is currently...

Cooler Master eXtreme Power 500w PSU
Kingston Hyper X 8GB Ram
XFX 5450 (I need to upgrade this thing. Looking for the best Sub $180 Model)
Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Mobo
Seagate Barricuda 1TB 7200RPM HDD
AMD FX 4100 OC'd to 4.0GHz
Thermaltake Commander MS-i Snow Edition Case

 

[mouse24]

I would grab the 7770 just based on prices. in most benchmarks the 650ti only performs about 5-7fps better while costing 20 bucks more. (cheapest 7770 vs cheapest 650ti, not including the rebates you get with the 7770)

Comes down to how flexible your budget is and how much you want to pay to get those extra frames. (still in the process of reading the article btw.)

This is a nicely priced 7850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

Also side note: you can enable physx in borderlands 2 by going into an ini file and changing a setting, it will run physx from the cpu so you will take a hit performance wise but you would even with an nvidia card. It looks exactly the same is if you ran physx from a physx enabled gpu.

 

[Guest]

I find it interesting that the very day am new nvidia card comes it is the only recommendation. How many of you guys are paid by Nvidia? Get any free gear and kickbacks?

Yes the 2GB version does pull ahead in skyrim but all the rest it doesn't make much of a difference to notice when compared to other cards. Aim higher and get a 7850 then overclock it

What I find interesting is you probably didn't read the reviews on this very site! The 650ti is the better card, although not by much.

 

[swifty_morgan]

in the "performance" area.......... a 470 would be somewhat equivalent to the 6850. good luck finding one.....

 

[determinologyz]

I find it interesting that the very day am new nvidia card comes it is the only recommendation. How many of you guys are paid by Nvidia? Get any free gear and kickbacks?

Yes the 2GB version does pull ahead in skyrim but all the rest it doesn't make much of a difference to notice when compared to other cards. Aim higher and get a 7850 then overclock it

I also find it funny you troll on nvidia as hard as alot of people do..

 

[proffet]

how much are the GTX 560 Ti's..?

 

[Wazzup4567]

So this 7850 is about $180 but has only 1GB.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

Is it worth another $30 to get another GB of VRAM?

 

[proffet]

did you see the vid and the lack of PhysX.?
are you done looking at nVidia cards.?

nothing bad to say about the HD 7850, just asking.

 

[mouse24]

Hmm, I'm not entirely sure how 1gb vs 2gb is for most games but if you intend to play skyrim with texture mods you want as much vram as you can get.

If you have any form of income I would probably go with the extra gb just because.

@proffet, I already addressed physx with amd cards. Its not exclusive to nvidias cards.

 

[proffet]

Hmm, I'm not entirely sure how 1gb vs 2gb is for most games but if you intend to play skyrim with texture mods you want as much vram as you can get.

If you have any form of income I would probably go with the extra gb just because.

@proffet, I already addressed physx with amd cards. Its not exclusive to nvidias cards.

I know but the frames really crawl when PhysX is on Radeon cards.
try it, enable PhysX (download) with your Radeon and then bench or monitor frames in a PhysX game.
even the higher end HD Radeons drop, do they not.?
and I never ran it off the CPU..

 

[mouse24]

Physx cannot run off an AMD gpu, its all handled cpu side when you have an AMD gpu in your system. Atleast thats the way it was a few years ago, not sure if they opened it up a bit more.

I'll test out the frame drops for myself once I get a copy of something that actually has physx. (planning on grabbing BL2 some times soon)

 

[Wazzup4567]

Physx cannot run off an AMD gpu, its all handled cpu side when you have an AMD gpu in your system. Atleast thats the way it was a few years ago, not sure if they opened it up a bit more.

I'll test out the frame drops for myself once I get a copy of something that actually has physx. (planning on grabbing BL2 some times soon)

In that case, my FX 4100 wouldn't handle it that well would it?

 

[Wazzup4567]

I know but the frames really crawl when PhysX is on Radeon cards.
try it, enable PhysX (download) with your Radeon and then bench or monitor frames in a PhysX game.
even the higher end HD Radeons drop, do they not.?
and I never ran it off the CPU..

Im looking for a card $180 or less (Before rebates)

If I was looking at a 560, I wouldn't be able to get a Ti. Is there a noticeable difference between the normal and Ti card?



And would this card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085

Out perform a 7850?

(Id love a 660, but its out of my budget ;-; )

 

[luciferano]

Im looking for a card $180 or less (Before rebates)

If I was looking at a 560, I wouldn't be able to get a Ti. Is there a noticeable difference between the normal and Ti card?



And would this card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162085

Out perform a 7850?

(Id love a 660, but its out of my budget ;-; )

The 560 Ti is somewhat faster than the 560 because it has a better GPU, I think that it has somewhat higher clocked memory too IIRC.

The 7850 is better overall than the 560 Ti, the non-Ti versions of the 560 don't have a chance against the 7850. They might come close in a few games, but simply throwing up the MSAA and/or overclocking lets the 7850 pull ahead greatly.

If you want a cheaper card, then a highly factory overclocked 7770 would be your best option.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102968

That one meets or beats the 650 Ti on average, albeit not by much, but it's also cheaper.

However, as others have said, AMD doesn't have native PhysX support on their graphics cards, so if you play the few games where that matters, it can be a good reason to go Nvidia.

 

[nforce4max]

Physx cannot run off an AMD gpu, its all handled cpu side when you have an AMD gpu in your system. Atleast thats the way it was a few years ago, not sure if they opened it up a bit more.

I'll test out the frame drops for myself once I get a copy of something that actually has physx. (planning on grabbing BL2 some times soon)

Hasn't changed, physx gpu side is basically a cuda app that is nvidia proprietary.

 

[nforce4max]

I also find it funny you troll on nvidia as hard as alot of people do..

Really? Got your head up your backside as what I post isn't close to what I can do as trolling. The problem with Nvidia is just terrible build quality for most of their cards and their low end truly sucks price wise except for low power consumption. Kepler is only good for DX9 and DX11 games while compute apps run like crap. OpenGL support is almost nonexistent so a lot of older games and apps do not run at all or under perform vs older cards. I found it entertaining when a 5 year old mid range card was already able to manage one third the performance at stock with physx on to a 660 in borderlands 2.

I wouldn't be grabbing the Vaseline and fapping to this pos when there is better around for similar or better prices. Then there is big Kepler which has yet to enter the market.

 

[Wazzup4567]

Question: Do Radeon cards work better with AMD systems or is that just a misconception?

And how would a GTX 480 fair in my system (I have a 500W PSU).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130617