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WOW has low fps on gt430 is there a bottle neck, or is it just crapy?

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October 10, 2012 11:06:51 PM

Hello all i just upgraded my system and bought a gt 430 but the performance is not so great... I have 1 gig ddr3 1066 ram and a celeron e1200 oced to 2Ghz my mobo is an MSI g41m-p28. I have read in a few places that the card should be hitting ultra at about 30fps but i cant get it past fair. My res is 1360X768 not a high res as you can see. Would more ram help?
anyone got any ideas?


as an afterthought would 2 gigs in dual channel mode be better than 3 gigs single channel?
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2012 11:15:32 PM

Try uninstalling then reinstalling your drivers.
Also, you need more RAM. 1 gig is not gonna cut it. Your celeron is weak too.
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a c 92 U Graphics card
October 10, 2012 11:28:55 PM

the celeron is too weak. The 430 isn't too strong but its better.
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October 10, 2012 11:38:41 PM

Would you say that the ram is a must? also single channel vs double channel?
I will try to reinstall my driver.
Btw it goes down to even 6 fps in a crowd in an empty place i can get up to 60 fps on high and 40 on ultra.
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October 10, 2012 11:40:08 PM

esrever said:
the celeron is too weak. The 430 isn't too strong but its better.

when i check cpu load its onlyat 75% so i dont think its the cpu although i do see your point. It is the weak link in this rig.
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a c 92 U Graphics card
October 10, 2012 11:50:15 PM

its definitely the cpu keeping you down.
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October 11, 2012 12:36:30 AM

would more ram help i just spent 20 min playing to monitor and the cpu went up to 89 but averaged 75, the ram on the other hand was up to 89 most if not all of the time and it kept going up.
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October 11, 2012 12:57:30 AM

dark ariel7 said:
would more ram help i just spent 20 min playing to monitor and the cpu went up to 89 but averaged 75, the ram on the other hand was up to 89 most if not all of the time and it kept going up.


Like what esrever and memadmax said, your CPU is just too weak. Also RAM is too low, GPU is quite weak.

You would want to get a CPU like this: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Q6600-Quad-Core-Processor-C...

Core 2 Quad, it's somehow a bit outdated for now. But it's still enough.

You would want to upgrade GPU like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And upgrade to RAM like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But really, i would suggest getting a new computer. Even with those upgrades, it won't last that long. You can build yourself a decent gaming pc at $500-600 and it would be alot better than your current system.
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October 11, 2012 1:09:21 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
Like what esrever and memadmax said, your CPU is just too weak. Also RAM is too low, GPU is quite weak.

You would want to get a CPU like this: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Q6600-Quad-Core-Processor-C...

Core 2 Quad, it's somehow a bit outdated for now. But it's still enough.

You would want to upgrade GPU like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And upgrade to RAM like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But really, i would suggest getting a new computer. Even with those upgrades, it won't last that long. You can build yourself a decent gaming pc at $500-600 and it would be alot better than your current system.

Thanks but i cant upgrade it much more seeing as i built it out of scraps and have about 20 bucks to spend. I was thinking of maybe a core 2 from ebay. and 1 or 2 more gigs of ram.
regarding the ram as i asked earlier single channel vs double channel?
i only need to play WOW at med to max settings at 1360x768
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October 11, 2012 1:17:41 AM

dark ariel7 said:
Thanks but i cant upgrade it much more seeing as i built it out of scraps and have about 20 bucks to spend. I was thinking of maybe a core 2 from ebay. and 1 or 2 more gigs of ram.
regarding the ram as i asked earlier single channel vs double channel?
i only need to play WOW at med to max settings at 1360x768


It would be good to upgrade RAM, but you need to upgrade the CPU as well. Most games nowdays need a dual core CPU, even though your CPU is dual core, it's too slow.
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October 11, 2012 1:20:19 AM

any reccomendations off of ebay?
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October 11, 2012 1:37:13 AM

thanks! now the only problem is the single vs double channel i originally mentioned.
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October 11, 2012 1:37:46 AM

Btw would more oc on my cpu help at all? even if only a little
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a c 92 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 1:41:44 AM

it might help a little. Not much tho. Even if you are able to get it to 2.4, it will still be a bit weak.

You'd probably just need to get 1-2gb more of ram, it really doesn't even matter if they run in dual channel. This pc you have is rather old, might not be worth it to spend too much money on it if you can't.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 1:50:55 AM

dark ariel7 said:
Btw would more oc on my cpu help at all? even if only a little


I would just work on building a new pc if it was me
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October 11, 2012 2:08:47 AM

i just built this one and i mean Im only 16 with a budget monitored by my mother so...
And do I have to start a new thread for the ram thing or those anyone here know?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 2:21:11 AM

BTW, do you know what is your power supply is? It would be better for us to provide you better suggestions.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 2:32:33 AM

dark ariel7 said:
its a 520


520 what? List the model name and wattage?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 2:43:36 AM

dark ariel7 said:
wattage


Do you know what brand is it? Or model?
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a c 133 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 2:51:53 AM

I'm guessing he means watts probably shouldn't confuse the guy if you go into amps with him should take it slow.

Also OP keep in mind that world of warcraft is very processor and hard drive heavy not so much on the graphics end. And as others have said your processor is a bit dated as well as your gpu more so your cpu though.
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October 11, 2012 3:07:02 AM

Oh thanks i though that wow was more graphics heavy. Then the cpu bottleneck makes total sense now.
i did indeed mean watts, its wattage is 520 watts
i will strive to get a core2 duo quad core!

Now then, Why wont anyone answer about the ram?!?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:13:12 AM

dark ariel7 said:
Oh thanks i though that wow was more graphics heavy. Then the cpu bottleneck makes total sense now.
i did indeed mean watts, its wattage is 520 watts
i will strive to get a core2 duo quad core!

Now then, Why wont anyone answer about the ram?!?


for WoW, you need 2GB of RAM or 1GB of RAM if you have windows XP. But, get more RAM as possible. Get 2 DIMMs of DDR2 RAMsto fit your dual-channel memory motherboard (2x1GB).

Here are the system requirements for WoW:
https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/minimum-system...
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a c 133 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:20:16 AM

you can get up to 8 gigs of ram with your current system I don't know if you are using windows 7 32 or 64 but if you are using 32 you'll get use of 4 if you are using 64 bit you would get the use of 8. Here is a example of a good pair of ram I found on newegg its cheap and its a good amount of ram for you.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 11, 2012 3:21:06 AM

thanks for the answer i just wanted to know if that as better than a 1 gig dimm and a 3 gig dimm single channel. I ask because this gives more ram but i understand that 2 1 gig dimms would be faster
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a c 133 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:24:24 AM

Oh yea normally I don't mix and match ram its not good on performance unless you get ram of the same voltages and speeds CAS Latency. Buying them in pairs is normally the better option and I think that if you would upgrade your ram something like I posted would be your best bet 8 gigs for 30 dollars cant beat that. Plus your motherboard says that you can use 1.5v ram anyway :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, If I remember right the Intel Core 2 Duo Quad E6600 was the preferred choice back in the day 3 years ago I think it were.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:36:46 AM

bigshootr8 gives a good choice for the RAM. You should go that that RAM and the Intel Core 2 Quad CPU. Both about $50. I think you can stretch that budget, right?
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October 11, 2012 3:38:57 AM

Your VGA is good but your other components are limiting your VGA, I suggest you upgrade your CPU and add more, 4GB of RAM is already enough for entry level gaming :)  GOODLUCK!
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