WOW has low fps on gt430 is there a bottle neck, or is it just crapy?

Hello all i just upgraded my system and bought a gt 430 but the performance is not so great... I have 1 gig ddr3 1066 ram and a celeron e1200 oced to 2Ghz my mobo is an MSI g41m-p28. I have read in a few places that the card should be hitting ultra at about 30fps but i cant get it past fair. My res is 1360X768 not a high res as you can see. Would more ram help?
anyone got any ideas?


as an afterthought would 2 gigs in dual channel mode be better than 3 gigs single channel?
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  1. Try uninstalling then reinstalling your drivers.
    Also, you need more RAM. 1 gig is not gonna cut it. Your celeron is weak too.
  2. the celeron is too weak. The 430 isn't too strong but its better.
  3. Would you say that the ram is a must? also single channel vs double channel?
    I will try to reinstall my driver.
    Btw it goes down to even 6 fps in a crowd in an empty place i can get up to 60 fps on high and 40 on ultra.
  4. esrever said:
    the celeron is too weak. The 430 isn't too strong but its better.

    when i check cpu load its onlyat 75% so i dont think its the cpu although i do see your point. It is the weak link in this rig.
  5. its definitely the cpu keeping you down.
  6. would more ram help i just spent 20 min playing to monitor and the cpu went up to 89 but averaged 75, the ram on the other hand was up to 89 most if not all of the time and it kept going up.
  7. dark ariel7 said:
    would more ram help i just spent 20 min playing to monitor and the cpu went up to 89 but averaged 75, the ram on the other hand was up to 89 most if not all of the time and it kept going up.


    Like what esrever and memadmax said, your CPU is just too weak. Also RAM is too low, GPU is quite weak.

    You would want to get a CPU like this: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Q6600-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B000LRMR26/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1349916486&sr=1-2&keywords=core+2+quad

    Core 2 Quad, it's somehow a bit outdated for now. But it's still enough.

    You would want to upgrade GPU like this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127599&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

    And upgrade to RAM like this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134046

    But really, i would suggest getting a new computer. Even with those upgrades, it won't last that long. You can build yourself a decent gaming pc at $500-600 and it would be alot better than your current system.
  8. ipwn3r456 said:
    Like what esrever and memadmax said, your CPU is just too weak. Also RAM is too low, GPU is quite weak.

    You would want to get a CPU like this: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Q6600-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B000LRMR26/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1349916486&sr=1-2&keywords=core+2+quad

    Core 2 Quad, it's somehow a bit outdated for now. But it's still enough.

    You would want to upgrade GPU like this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127599&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

    And upgrade to RAM like this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134046

    But really, i would suggest getting a new computer. Even with those upgrades, it won't last that long. You can build yourself a decent gaming pc at $500-600 and it would be alot better than your current system.

    Thanks but i cant upgrade it much more seeing as i built it out of scraps and have about 20 bucks to spend. I was thinking of maybe a core 2 from ebay. and 1 or 2 more gigs of ram.
    regarding the ram as i asked earlier single channel vs double channel?
    i only need to play WOW at med to max settings at 1360x768
  9. dark ariel7 said:
    Thanks but i cant upgrade it much more seeing as i built it out of scraps and have about 20 bucks to spend. I was thinking of maybe a core 2 from ebay. and 1 or 2 more gigs of ram.
    regarding the ram as i asked earlier single channel vs double channel?
    i only need to play WOW at med to max settings at 1360x768


    It would be good to upgrade RAM, but you need to upgrade the CPU as well. Most games nowdays need a dual core CPU, even though your CPU is dual core, it's too slow.
  10. any reccomendations off of ebay?
  11. If you can get a close to 3ghz core 2 duo off ebay it would be great.
    maybe something like this:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-CORE-2-DUO-SLGW3-2-8GHZ-3M-1066-PROCESSOR-CPU-/200828326594?pt=CPUs&hash=item2ec24d12c2
  12. thanks! now the only problem is the single vs double channel i originally mentioned.
  13. Btw would more oc on my cpu help at all? even if only a little
  14. it might help a little. Not much tho. Even if you are able to get it to 2.4, it will still be a bit weak.

    You'd probably just need to get 1-2gb more of ram, it really doesn't even matter if they run in dual channel. This pc you have is rather old, might not be worth it to spend too much money on it if you can't.
  15. dark ariel7 said:
    Btw would more oc on my cpu help at all? even if only a little


    I would just work on building a new pc if it was me
  16. i just built this one and i mean Im only 16 with a budget monitored by my mother so...
    And do I have to start a new thread for the ram thing or those anyone here know?
  17. Thanks!
  18. BTW, do you know what is your power supply is? It would be better for us to provide you better suggestions.
  19. its a 520
  20. dark ariel7 said:
    its a 520


    520 what? List the model name and wattage?
  21. wattage
  22. dark ariel7 said:
    wattage


    Do you know what brand is it? Or model?
  23. I'm guessing he means watts probably shouldn't confuse the guy if you go into amps with him should take it slow.

    Also OP keep in mind that world of warcraft is very processor and hard drive heavy not so much on the graphics end. And as others have said your processor is a bit dated as well as your gpu more so your cpu though.
  24. Oh thanks i though that wow was more graphics heavy. Then the cpu bottleneck makes total sense now.
    i did indeed mean watts, its wattage is 520 watts
    i will strive to get a core2 duo quad core!

    Now then, Why wont anyone answer about the ram?!?
  25. dark ariel7 said:
    Oh thanks i though that wow was more graphics heavy. Then the cpu bottleneck makes total sense now.
    i did indeed mean watts, its wattage is 520 watts
    i will strive to get a core2 duo quad core!

    Now then, Why wont anyone answer about the ram?!?


    for WoW, you need 2GB of RAM or 1GB of RAM if you have windows XP. But, get more RAM as possible. Get 2 DIMMs of DDR2 RAMsto fit your dual-channel memory motherboard (2x1GB).

    Here are the system requirements for WoW:
    https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/minimum-system-requirements-for-world-of-warcraft
  26. you can get up to 8 gigs of ram with your current system I don't know if you are using windows 7 32 or 64 but if you are using 32 you'll get use of 4 if you are using 64 bit you would get the use of 8. Here is a example of a good pair of ram I found on newegg its cheap and its a good amount of ram for you.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308
  27. thanks for the answer i just wanted to know if that as better than a 1 gig dimm and a 3 gig dimm single channel. I ask because this gives more ram but i understand that 2 1 gig dimms would be faster
  28. Oh yea normally I don't mix and match ram its not good on performance unless you get ram of the same voltages and speeds CAS Latency. Buying them in pairs is normally the better option and I think that if you would upgrade your ram something like I posted would be your best bet 8 gigs for 30 dollars cant beat that. Plus your motherboard says that you can use 1.5v ram anyway :)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231308&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4176827&SID=9bdr44yktqbz

    Also, If I remember right the Intel Core 2 Duo Quad E6600 was the preferred choice back in the day 3 years ago I think it were.
  29. bigshootr8 gives a good choice for the RAM. You should go that that RAM and the Intel Core 2 Quad CPU. Both about $50. I think you can stretch that budget, right?
  30. Your VGA is good but your other components are limiting your VGA, I suggest you upgrade your CPU and add more, 4GB of RAM is already enough for entry level gaming :) GOODLUCK!
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