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October 11, 2012 3:21:30 PM

The OC sapphire 7770 seems to be a waste of money and the price for a 7850 seems to be a better buy in the long term. Here are my specs. I have an E5400 2.7ghz with 8gb of PC3-12800 Ripjaws. I'm thinking about getting a 7850 XFX 1GB Core edition for $126 AR/gift card that I have to use. I know there will be a bottleneck but will it really hinder my performance? My motherboard is locked so I can't change anything since its a retail Asus desktop. I have an XFX 450W PSU. I can't do a major upgrade right now since the motherboard, cpu, and OS is kind of expensive at the moment. I do not overclock and I just want to watch videos/play games without my 9600gt struggling so bad.

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a c 185 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:29:59 PM

Get the 7850 then it will be a improvement no doubt about that.Get a 2GB if possible though.
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October 11, 2012 3:30:45 PM

NO DON'T GET A 1GB CARD get an asus,msi,gigabyte,sapphire but make sure that thay have 2gb of memory
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a c 199 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:32:44 PM

The HD7770 is four tiers higher than your old 9600GT, and is a pretty decent card. Of course the HD7850 is stronger (another four tiers over that), but will likely be bottlenecked some by your CPU. For $126, it's a great deal though, so that's what I'd choose.
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a c 199 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:33:56 PM

On any resolution for which a HD7850 is appropriate, 1GB is sufficient; 2GB might be nice, but is not essential.

Edit: I would choose XFX, MSI, Sapphire, or HIS over Asus for video cards.
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October 11, 2012 3:37:53 PM

Onus said:
On any resolution for which a HD7850 is appropriate, 1GB is sufficient; 2GB might be nice, but is not essential.

Edit: I would choose XFX, MSI, Sapphire, or HIS over Asus for video cards.

i was just putting out gpu makers that i could remember at that moment
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a c 185 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 3:41:24 PM

Asus makes solid cards he just maybe had bad luck with them i would choose nothing but MSI,ASUS,Sapphire, cards doesn't mean others are bad though.
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October 11, 2012 3:48:02 PM

How bad would the bottleneck be in comparison to the OC Edition of the 7770?
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October 11, 2012 3:59:44 PM

Get the best gpu you can, which is the 7850 in your position, then upgrade the cpu later. Even with a slower cpu, the jump in performance will be greatest when upgrading your gpu.
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a c 199 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:01:28 PM

Any (non-defective) HD7850 will outperform any HD7770. The HD7850 may still provide decent FPS for at least a few years, so you could re-use it when/if you rebuild your PC later.

And yes, bigcyco1 is correct, I had to return 2/4 Asus graphics cards I bought due to failure within days or hours of first use. The only other cards I had fail were an ancient HIS (HD2600Pro) after years of use, and another HIS (HD6790) that had been stressed unmercifully with some tests of bitcoin mining. Many other HIS cards I bought were flawless, and AFAIK are still working just fine. My favorite is probably XFX though.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:08:37 PM

Newegg Has a 1 gig version of the 7850 for $142 after rebate right now (if this is the one you're talking about), which is very hard to ignore. I've monitored VRAM usage on many games and am surprised at how many will actually utilize over 1 gig of video memory with 1.25 appearing to be the sweet-spot average though for this class of card.

The gap between the 7770 and the 7850 is ridiculous, AMD REALLY needs a 7790 or 7830 in here, the gap is that big. The 450 watt PSU should handle this fine, but I wouldn't venture much past the 7850 with it though as this will probably start putting you close to needing an upgrade. Seeing as you have a 9600GT, the difference you experience would be quite noticeable to say the least. The 2 GB model is the better bet for future use though, but 1 gig is still doable.
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October 11, 2012 4:10:34 PM

I've got an MSI Radeon HD 7850 Power Edition in one of my rigs: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7850_Power_Ed...

I have to say, rather impressed with it. The cooler is rather silent, even under full load, and the overclocking headroom only further adds to the appeal (I was able to hit 1,200MHz with ease on the GPU up from 950MHz stock for this card).

The card runs 24/7 under full load processing Bitcoin. In terms of gaming performance it allows for 1080p gaming under the games I've tried (BF3, Mafia II & Guild Wars II).

Worth it imo.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:14:04 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
I've got an MSI Radeon HD 7850 Power Edition in one of my rigs: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7850_Power_Ed...

I have to say, rather impressed with it. The cooler is rather silent, even under full load, and the overclocking headroom only further adds to the appeal (I was able to hit 1,200MHz with ease on the GPU up from 950MHz stock for this card).
Nice rig in your sig what have you oc those beast 7970's to stable ?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:16:47 PM

Thanks

One works at 1,300MHz and the other 1,250MHz both are watercooled.

I use a 1,225v setting for the GPU voltage for both. They run Bitcoin 24/7 (cept the times I game on the rig).
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October 11, 2012 4:18:35 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
Thanks

One works at 1,300MHz and the other 1,250MHz both are watercooled.

I use a 1,225v setting for the GPU voltage for both. They run Bitcoin 24/7 (cept the times I game on the rig).

i wish i was rich :( 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:18:52 PM

Nice!I half to get me a pair lol.
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October 11, 2012 4:19:51 PM

Thanks everyone for the help!
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October 11, 2012 4:21:49 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Nice!I half to get me a pair lol.

but you already have 2 670's again i wish i was rich but why would you want a pair of 7970's when you already have a pair of 670's
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October 11, 2012 4:22:25 PM

Best answer selected by supergtr.
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a c 199 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:24:45 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
Thanks

One works at 1,300MHz and the other 1,250MHz both are watercooled.

I use a 1,225v setting for the GPU voltage for both. They run Bitcoin 24/7 (cept the times I game on the rig).

Nice! What's the exchange rate these days? I tested mining for a week or two, but decided it wasn't worthwhile, partly because the test system was not suited to that purpose.
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October 11, 2012 4:25:24 PM

devilofdeaths said:
but you already have 2 670's again i wish i was rich but why would you want a pair of 7970's when you already have a pair of 670's
Yeah but NV put a voltage lock rule in place so i plan on going AMD it's a must unlocked voltage or me no buy :lol: 
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a c 199 U Graphics card
October 11, 2012 4:26:22 PM

Thanks!

devilofdeaths said:
but you already have 2 670's again i wish i was rich but why would you want a pair of 7970's when you already have a pair of 670's

Because nVidia cards can't mine for pooh; none of them earn more than the cost of the power to run them.
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October 11, 2012 4:30:31 PM

Onus said:
Nice! What's the exchange rate these days? I tested mining for a week or two, but decided it wasn't worthwhile, partly because the test system was not suited to that purpose.


Around $12 USD per BTC: https://mtgox.com/

Worth it :)  Especially on 22nm hardware.
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October 11, 2012 10:49:02 PM

bawchicawawa said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
142$ after 20$ MIR, free shipping
just 1gb of vram, but for the price it doesn't matter.

Yeah that was the one I was talking about, stupid good price for it. This almost makes the 7770 feel nonexistant an unimportant :) 
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October 16, 2012 2:42:12 PM

matt_b said:
Yeah that was the one I was talking about, stupid good price for it. This almost makes the 7770 feel nonexistant an unimportant :) 


The 7850 worked until it develop a high pitched noise on startup and while watching any youtube videos. I think it was the caps squealing for some reason. It's a shame that I had to send it back for a refund.
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October 16, 2012 8:44:18 PM

supergtr said:
The 7850 worked until it develop a high pitched noise on startup and while watching any youtube videos. I think it was the caps squealing for some reason. It's a shame that I had to send it back for a refund.

All cards emit a squeal to a degree, some louder than others obviously. My understanding is it has to do with either coil design/type and capacitors releasing energy, the louder ones supposedly are those rated at a higher resistance. It's normal and doesn't really mean anything is wrong. Depending on how loud it was, if it gave you an unsettled feeling, then sending/RMA-ing the card is worth your peace of mind then.
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