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Radeon 7950 oc edition vs gtx 670

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October 16, 2012 12:14:26 AM

hi i just wanted to know which would be better for my new build the gtx 670 (no oc) at its lowest right know is $360 and the radeon (oc 900 mhz) is at its lowest is $310 is the 670 worth the extra $50 with 2 gb of vram or should go with the radeon 7950 with 3 gb of vram, gaming at 1920x1080 and will there possibly be a nvidia price drop since the there kepler lineup is now complete

i5 3570k
asrock z77 extreme 4
16gb of ram 1600mhz
700w sli and crossfire capable psu

thanks
October 16, 2012 2:13:16 AM

I know about all the benchmarks already but what are your personal preferances and experiances with the cards and what do you think of physx (not a big problem for me cuz i think most of the effects are that well done and dont need it but i do like borderlands 2 physx but i read cpu can handle that pretty well)
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October 16, 2012 2:14:53 AM

get the hd7950 it beats the gtx670 and is a crazy overclocker you can easily get it over 1ghz the extra gig of vram might come in handy if you choose to do multiple monitirs in the future
October 16, 2012 2:26:53 AM

If you play a lot of nvidia games like borderlands you might want to get a 670. As for physx, i don't think it can be done by anything else then a Nvidia card (correct me if i'm wrong). That said, the 7950 is a crazy card for the price and will not die as fast as the 670 under AA. But you also have to live with the higher power consumption and the drivers that still need some improvements.
October 16, 2012 2:48:07 AM

You should definitely go with the 7950, its way better, especially for price/power (bang for buck). If you want to overclock for even more power, you should get ones with a good cooler.
I would go with these:

The HIS ICEQ is a great choice and one of the best coolers out there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The XFX Card is also nice, and has a great cooling system close to the Twin Frozr II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Gigabyte Card is also nice and uses 3 fans for cooling.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would go with the HIS card, and would use MSI Afterburner for the overclocking.
And whats sweeter, is that you get sleeping dogs free with the 7950 from Newegg. Its limited time so buy quickly.
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October 16, 2012 2:51:47 AM

I like both cards but if i was choosing between the two i would go with a 670 just because it's faster and favors the games i play i don't know which games you play so it's hard to say which might be better for you.
October 16, 2012 2:55:52 AM

if you want the hd7950 get the saphire 1 if you play battlefield 3 get the gigabyte gtx670
October 16, 2012 3:01:17 AM

tigeryeow said:
if you want the hd7950 get the saphire 1 if you play battlefield 3 get the gigabyte gtx670

What??? If he wants the 7950 he has to buy the sapphire? I would choose the twin frozer 3 by far but any 7950 will do.
If he wants to play bf3 he can also get a 7950 but the 670 will be better in this specific game but gigabyte didn't make the card this way, Nvidia did.

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a c 539 U Graphics card
October 16, 2012 3:04:15 AM
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A stock GTX 670 is still about 10-15% faster than the best 7950. That's worth the price premium, as is being able to run Borderlands 2 with GPU-accelerated PhysX.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vap...

The reports of being able to run Borderlands 2 off the CPU show that the performance is spotty at best. Not something you want to rely upon in any event.

Quote:
"In Borderlands 2 the NVIDIA video cards reigned supreme in providing the best visual experience due to the spot on utilization of PhysX. While users can attempt to enable PhysX on Medium on AMD video cards, we experienced several game crashes and a few system freezes. Because we kept crashing with PhysX enabled on the AMD video cards we determined it was not playable for us, so we ran all of the video cards with PhysX disabled and received great performance."
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/01/borderlands_2...
Also:
http://physxinfo.com/news/9653/borderlands-2-physx-benc...
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 16, 2012 3:16:19 AM

17seconds said:
A stock GTX 670 is still about 10-15% faster than the best 7950. That's worth the price premium, as is being able to run Borderlands 2 with GPU-accelerated PhysX.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vap...

The reports of being able to run Borderlands 2 off the CPU show that the performance is spotty at best. Not something you want to rely upon in any event.

Quote:
"In Borderlands 2 the NVIDIA video cards reigned supreme in providing the best visual experience due to the spot on utilization of PhysX. While users can attempt to enable PhysX on Medium on AMD video cards, we experienced several game crashes and a few system freezes. Because we kept crashing with PhysX enabled on the AMD video cards we determined it was not playable for us, so we ran all of the video cards with PhysX disabled and received great performance."
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/01/borderlands_2...
Also:
http://physxinfo.com/news/9653/borderlands-2-physx-benc...

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a b U Graphics card
October 16, 2012 3:32:28 AM

The 670 averages 25 FPS faster than the 7950 in BF3 and 15 in Skyrim. It's also much faster in COD, although that doesn't make much of a difference. In BL2, you get PhysX, which is a nice addition.

All these people saying that the 7950 is faster. I would rather have a certainly faster 670 that can still be overclocked to 680 performance than a maybe will be faster IF I overclock 7950.
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October 16, 2012 3:38:38 AM

Ironslice said:
The 670 averages 25 FPS faster than the 7950 in BF3 and 15 in Skyrim. It's also much faster in COD, although that doesn't make much of a difference. In BL2, you get PhysX, which is a nice addition.

All these people saying that the 7950 is faster. I would rather have a certainly faster 670 that can still be overclocked to 680 performance than a maybe will be faster IF I overclock 7950.


October 16, 2012 5:06:29 AM

2260121 said:
What??? If he wants the 7950 he has to buy the sapphire? I would choose the twin frozer 3 by far but any 7950 will do.
If he wants to play bf3 he can also get a 7950 but the 670 will be better in this specific game but gigabyte didn't make the card this way, Nvidia did.

i was suggesting lol
a b U Graphics card
October 16, 2012 10:13:24 PM

I recommend this card ==>Sapphire
October 17, 2012 12:08:02 PM

indahoop said:
Thanks for the input! Ive narrowed my final choice to two cards

Gigabyte radeon 7950 $310 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Msi radeon 7950 $305 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I chose radeon because i did some calculations and the 670 would be way out of budget compared to the 7950 but still thanks for the input, but one more question which one of these is better


both are gigabyte cards i still recommend the sapphire 1 but if you don't want to go with that get the msi
October 17, 2012 12:16:54 PM

Oops sorry i messed up with the links and is the msi cooling system better than the gigabyte
October 17, 2012 12:34:29 PM

indahoop said:
Oops sorry i messed up with the links and is the msi cooling system better than the gigabyte

i still have to see the card if its an stock cooler or the twin frozr cooler
October 25, 2012 1:44:15 AM

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October 25, 2012 1:49:49 AM

Went with a gtx 670 Msi power edition with twin frozr
Got it for a great price of $350

But I got it a day before I heard about the never settle bundle so I now feel some regret but the improved performance of the 7950 still is about 12% worse than the 670 so I'm sticking with the gtx 670 plus nivida has a longer track record for great drivers so I think ill get A better driver soon
a c 185 U Graphics card
October 25, 2012 1:53:42 AM

indahoop said:
Went with a gtx 670 Msi power edition with twin frozr
Got it for a great price of $350

But I got it a day before I heard about the never settle bundle so I now feel some regret but the improved performance of the 7950 still is about 12% worse than the 670 so I'm sticking with the gtx 670 plus nivida has a longer track record for great drivers so I think ill get A better driver soon
I think you made a good choice i have two of those cards and really enjoy them i hope you will as well :) 
November 29, 2012 11:54:40 AM

17seconds said:
A stock GTX 670 is still about 10-15% faster than the best 7950. That's worth the price premium, as is being able to run Borderlands 2 with GPU-accelerated PhysX.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vap...

The reports of being able to run Borderlands 2 off the CPU show that the performance is spotty at best. Not something you want to rely upon in any event.

Quote:
"In Borderlands 2 the NVIDIA video cards reigned supreme in providing the best visual experience due to the spot on utilization of PhysX. While users can attempt to enable PhysX on Medium on AMD video cards, we experienced several game crashes and a few system freezes. Because we kept crashing with PhysX enabled on the AMD video cards we determined it was not playable for us, so we ran all of the video cards with PhysX disabled and received great performance."
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/01/borderlands_2...
Also:
http://physxinfo.com/news/9653/borderlands-2-physx-benc...


I know this is a month+ old thread but I came across it while researching my xmas card upgrade.

This was absolutely terrible and bias advice. You've quoted reviews that are based on a very specific game and given the impression that this performance is across the board. Looking at comparisons that use a lot of different games tells quite a different story. I also haven't come across any tech site that recommends the 670 over the 7950 using a price/performance scale.
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