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October 18, 2012 9:07:51 PM

So I had SLI GTX 560 TI thatI sold off and now looking for an upgrade I have a budget of around 600 so looking for the best card for my dollar. I was hoping to just get a single card for the time being, I'm done trying to deal with SLI cards and the amount of room and heat they put out. If anyone has suggestion, would be great!
I'm running: i7 2600k
8 GB 2133 RAM
1200 W Power Supply
Asus Extreme IV board
I do play games ie borderlands, old republic, diablo, wow, but at same time I do photoshop and video editing. Sometimes I run up to 3 different monitors 27 inch 1080.

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October 19, 2012 2:20:54 AM

I've done the research and think i'll pass on the 7970, and stick to the 680. Think i'll go with the Asus GTX 680 TOP. from what I can tell, one of the best speeds, good cooling, quiet and price isnt to bad.
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October 19, 2012 2:36:45 AM

It really depends on what you're playing. The GTX 680 is much better in Batman, Portal 2, VF3, Skyrim & Starcraft 2 (those games just plain run better on Nvidia) but a 7970 Ghz Edi beats it in every other benchmark. However the GTX 680 uses much less power, is quieter and on average runs cooler but the 7970 Ghz Edi is cheaper and OC's much better.

VisionTek 7970 Ghz Edi $360 shipped, the brand is meh, but a Ghz Edi for well under $400

Benchmark here



This was the only bench I could find of a 4gb 680

If you're absolutely set on Nvidia then by all means, the GTX 680 is most performance for under $1000. But you can see the 7970 Ghz Edi is on average 2% slower than the GTX 680 which costs >$100 more.
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October 19, 2012 2:44:58 AM

I also implore you to read this article, straight from Tom's HERE. You might be surprised that the GTX 680, while a good card is not worth it's price tag when it's on par with the 7970 Ghz Edi that costs $100 less.

Yet another review, this one from [/url=http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/AMD-Radeon-HD-79...]Hardware Secrets[/url] giving the nod to the 7970 Ghz Edi.
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October 19, 2012 2:48:16 AM

2 gb rams of 680 may be a problem to run 3 monitors. And the 4gb version, it was not officially release by nvidia itself. Just tweaks from the card manufacturers.
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October 19, 2012 3:10:15 AM

Your best bet is : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Like others recommended you won't get much outta 1 card powering three monitors.. unless you get AMD.. But.. the one i listed should give you maybe a 35-40 fps in Borderlands 2 on that amount of screens...

Thank You for choosing NVIDIA.
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October 19, 2012 4:08:43 AM

I use the 3 monitors from time to time, primarily for my photoshop work, as far as gaming goes, its nice to have but sometimes 3 27inch monitors get way to big, so for most games i stick to one monitor. So many choices to go with!
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October 19, 2012 4:10:39 AM

GTX 680 then. and the one i recommended is gonna have the Vram you need for multiple display
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October 19, 2012 4:13:57 AM

From what I heard and understood that VRAM was something that was not necessary to consider. That speed was more important than Vram? I wasn't sure in my case if the Vram would trump the higher clock speed of the Asus TOP card
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October 19, 2012 4:42:57 AM

You need the Vram to display the picture across multiple screens but you need bandwidth to be able to access the Vram faster.

You can fix bandwidth by overclocking, you can't add more Vram without buying a new card.
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October 19, 2012 5:06:16 AM

Ok sounds good, is there a top of the line 4 GB 680 card I should go with or is the one that Rock recommended the best?
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October 19, 2012 5:15:12 AM

ritdawg13 said:
Ok sounds good, is there a top of the line 4 GB 680 card I should go with or is the one that Rock recommended the best?


Here's the list of GTX 680 4gb cards from Newegg

EVGA GTX 680 w/ Backplate 4GB $538 shipped $518 after MIR is the cheapest

Galaxy GTX 680 GC 4GB $573 shipped $563 after MIR has the highest factory overclock if that interests you

MSI Twin Frozr GTX 680 4gb $608 shipped $588 after MIR is the most expensive BUT has the best cooler and will run the coolest allowing more headroom for overclocking BUT MSI was caught factory overvolting their cards. Do research on this first if you decide to buy.
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October 19, 2012 5:28:30 AM

Is the one that I have listed from Microcenter any good? its the Zotac card 4 GB for 539.99. I've always had Nvidia cards for as long as I can remember, is it worth it to go to the 7970 Card and lose out on the 1 GB of VRAM or would the final verdict be to stick to the 4GB 680?
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October 19, 2012 5:58:34 AM

ritdawg13 said:
Or for a little bit more since we are on the top of VRAM how about this 7970 card that has 6 GB or is that just looking at overkill?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Alright, I did a little searching and found a thread, here on Tom's pretty much asking the same question about Vram and multiple monitors HERE. To sum up the post (topic is 3 months old, Nvidia could have gotten better, IDK), the 7970 Ghz Edi 3gb is better for multiple monitors (EyeFinity) than the GTX 680's (Surround). Take into consideration that at that time there wasn't a 4gb 680 but the premise was still the same, Eyefinity over Surround unless you're running 3D setups, then Nvidia is better.

If you had $1000 I'd tell you to get yourself a shiny new GTX 690 and it would be the end of the conversation. Another option, albeit an extreme option would be to Cross Fire 2 Radeon 7970 Ghz Edi 3gb cards.

The thing you have to look at too is that there are some games that already use 2gb of VRAM on a single monitor (Skyrim & BF3) where as 1gb was the norm. Sapphire is the leading manufacturer in AMD video cards, the Vapor-X is the best cooler without going aftermarket and you're getting 6gb of GDDR5.

You kind of have to ask yourself "How much do I want to spend?"

7970 Ghz Edi 3gb $360
GTX 680 4gb $530
Vapor-X 7970 Ghz Edi 6gb $600
Dual 7970 Ghz Edi (Cross Fire) $720
GTX 690 $1000
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October 25, 2012 6:44:58 AM

I've decided to go with the MSI GTX 680 Lightning, while the 3 monitors are nice, figured for gaming 3 27 inch is a little bit of overkill and it seems like I can overclock the lightning the best, so for long term think thats the card i'm gonna stick with.
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October 25, 2012 1:10:39 PM

ritdawg13 said:
I've decided to go with the MSI GTX 680 Lightning, while the 3 monitors are nice, figured for gaming 3 27 inch is a little bit of overkill and it seems like I can overclock the lightning the best, so for long term think thats the card i'm gonna stick with.

Hope you like running outta vram.. oh wait are you just gonna use 1 monitor? if so then 680 lightning would be fine
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October 25, 2012 4:07:47 PM

The 7970 has a lot more overclocking headroom than the 680 and comes with 3gb / 6gb where as the GTX 680 comes with 2gb / 4gb. But congratulations on your purchase.
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October 25, 2012 8:05:52 PM

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The 7970 has a lot more overclocking headroom than the 680 and comes with 3gb / 6gb where as the GTX 680 comes with 2gb / 4gb. But congratulations on your purchase.

Oh so 2gb of from isn't enough for you with a core clock of 1200mhz.... yea try the classified it reached 2100mhz on the core
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October 25, 2012 8:07:12 PM

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Oh so 2gb of from isn't enough for you with a core clock of 1200mhz.... yea try the classified it reached 2100mhz on the core


Do you have a link to that? It would be a most interesting read. I'm reading Anandtech's review of the 680 Classified 4gb and they hit 1287mhz on the core & 6.5ghz on the memory by over volting.

Hard OCP took a reference 7970 and got 1260mhz core & 6.9ghz on the memory by overvolting.
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October 26, 2012 12:35:10 AM

Yeah doing some more research I figured for the cost and future proofing everything, (and i'm driving myself up a wall about this), going to get the 4gb of the 680 card, and go with the classified. Of course if someone can convince me 7970 better way to go for surround set up and graphic work. Primary games that i'll play are MoH, Battlefield 3, and SWTOR.
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October 26, 2012 12:39:39 AM

How many benchmarks do you want me to post showing that a $390 7970 is equivalent to a $560 680?

It's your wallet, congrats on your decision. Remember, the new Radeon line is set to come out in February.
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October 26, 2012 12:47:06 AM

dont tell me that...thats bad news, any idea what the new radeon stuff will be like?
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October 26, 2012 12:53:37 AM

No solid news yet, only rumors. The first cards of the line do have a release date of Q1 2013 meaning Jan, Feb or Mar. The only thing I've seen was a release from AMD stating that the line will have 20% more performance compared to their older models.

So a 8770 will be 20% faster than the 7770. Again, until the cards come out, it's all speculation.
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October 26, 2012 12:55:52 AM

I hate you all, dont tell me this info, was all set to get a new card, and then you have to drop this info on me, thats not very nice
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October 26, 2012 1:00:29 AM

But not sure if its even worth it to wait, figured either the 680 or 7970 will do the job that I need till the 9000 series hits in 2014. But back to original question of future proofing and doing surround/eyefinity. Is it true that the 7970 does a better job then the 680. I'm back at my original trouble of the 4gb 680 vs a 7970, looked at my budget and I can pull off he 6 GB sapphire 7970 under my budget that I set for myself. Ahhh the conflict i have with myself, over a graphics card. LOL
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October 26, 2012 1:00:42 AM

Intel's new Haswell CPU's are also scheduled to come out Q1 2013. That's why I haven't upgraded yet. New CPU & GPU right at tax return time.
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October 26, 2012 1:03:41 AM

ritdawg13 said:
But not sure if its even worth it to wait, figured either the 680 or 7970 will do the job that I need till the 9000 series hits in 2014. But back to original question of future proofing and doing surround/eyefinity. Is it true that the 7970 does a better job then the 680. I'm back at my original trouble of the 4gb 680 vs a 7970, looked at my budget and I can pull off he 6 GB sapphire 7970 under my budget that I set for myself. Ahhh the conflict i have with myself, over a graphics card. LOL


Alright, we gave you our thoughts and opinions. You have to make the decision. You're the one that's buying it. We can sit here for hours and go through benchmarks until our eyes and finger tips bleed. If your gut says 680 Classified after all the info you've received, then get it.

Read THIS and take all the information in. Remember, the "Classified" isn't on the list and the 7970 Ghz Edi is on the older 12.8 Catalyst Suite. The new 12.11 Catalyst Suite adds 7% more performance to the 7970 Ghz Edi.

HERE's the new round up showing the 7970 Ghz Edi with the new drivers.
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October 26, 2012 1:15:49 AM

Alrighty, time to kill this thread make my decision and move on. Think i will go with the sapphire 6 GB card, I can get it to work in my budget and it'll future proof my stuff for a very very long time with the option to do surround if I choose to!
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October 26, 2012 2:00:13 AM

Have fun with the drivers!!. I'm not gonna argue with another AMD Fanboy... But dscudella sure you can say.. oh he was running LN2 blah blah blah but the guys name was kinpin and here is the article: http://www.geeks3d.com/20121025/kngpn-smashes-three-3dm...

how is that 2100 you may ask? well do the math 1593 with a power target of 200% thats a pretty damn high clock...

If it were me I'd have gotten a 680.. but your not me... Enjoy your Radeon...
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October 26, 2012 2:24:10 AM

Pretty good read. Is that practical? No. Does it have anything to do with real world overclocking? No. But an interesting read nonetheless.

Am I a fanboy? Maybe. I just can't see spending the extra $160 on a card that is so closely matched to the $390 7970. If you can justify it, I'll listen, but I'm quoting benchmarks with the old 12.8 drivers and the new 12.11 drivers. I wouldn't pick the 680 over the 7970.

In retrospect, I also wouldn't get the 7970 6gb, I never recommended that card, especially for a single monitor.
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October 26, 2012 2:33:19 AM

I know, but i figured for 3 27" monitors which i'll probably go back to you since i'll have a card powerful enough to handle it, all said and done after what i've sold and everything i'll only be paying roughly 350-400 out of pocket for the 6 GB card and the new NZXT Phantom 820 case. I figured if i get the higher ram card then I can really rock out the monitors. I got away from using surround due to the fact that my cards couldn't handle it, but now since i have the power to do it, I can go back to it!
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October 26, 2012 2:34:48 AM

Not to mention I found the Sapphire for 570 shipped so cant really pass up on that deal
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October 26, 2012 7:06:17 AM

Ok never mind, just saw Asus release their Matrix series cards with some amazing overclocking abilities. Going to get one of those for the time being and in the future get a second one for crossfire. Done deal, no more arguing, debating, its set in stone now!
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/MATRIXHD7...
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October 28, 2012 2:18:37 AM

Best answer selected by ritdawg13.
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October 28, 2012 2:43:30 AM

Good to hear you decided on a card
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