Gaming pc for gaming

[Guest]

I'm from Finland so my English is not that good.
I'm trying to build a decent gaming computer to play modern games with high quality.
Could someone point out where to start?


Approximate Purchase Date: In near future.
Budget Range: 650€ After shipping.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming and multitasking.
Are you buying a monitor: Yes
Parts to Upgrade: Every part needs upgrade.
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't matter.
Location: Finland
Parts Preferences: No matter
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: i don't know what crossfire mean.
Your Monitor Resolution: Don't have monitor yet.
Additional Comments:
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Because my old computer can't run new games.

 

[zared619]

Well, this will game decently, but because I had to include a monitor, I had to cut back your GPU. If you are buying the monitor separately, I can definitely get you a better GPU, but for now, it is what it is.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£52.12 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.39 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.60 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card (£76.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£47.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: Hannspree HL249DPB 23.6" Monitor (£108.33 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £522.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-11 15:05 GMT+0000)

If you have any questions, just ask.

 

[Guest]

If i buy the monitor separately what gpu you recommend?

 

[zared619]

A 7870 is a great card.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-msi-radeon-hd-7870-twin-frozr-oc-4800mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1050mhz-hdmi-mdp

 

[nix327]

The FX 6300 build is good..but i like intel because it is more efficient..if you are not overclocking then the i5 3470 performs better in games..its only an opinion..you can go with either intel or AMD

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=702

7850 is somewhere between 7770 and 7870 but closer to the 7870.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=549

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s0JB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s0JB/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s0JB/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£144.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£60.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.15 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£125.98 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£47.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £512.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-11 19:25 GMT+0000)

edit: AMD build is cheaper and maybe you can get a 7870 if you go with it.

 

[nix327]

An i3 3220 + 7870 is also a good gaming setup

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=699

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s79G
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s79G/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/s79G/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£89.68 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£33.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card (£174.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£47.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £509.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-12 07:48 GMT+0000)

 

[zared619]

To be honest, the 6300 is equal to the 3220 in single threaded applications, like most games. And of course the 6300 just destroys the 3220 in multi-threaded applications.

 

[xjdsx]

Hi,

Overall Intel performs better than AMD and AMD is not a wise option as you said you are not overclocking please look at this intel build below. It will be good for gaming.


cpu: intel i5-3470 - £140
psu Ocz modxstream pro 600w £60
gpu xfx 7870 - currently come with 5 free games on scan.co.uk you should check it out -£180
ram corsair vengeance 8gb - £40
mobo gigabyte skt 1155 z77-ds3h
case antec 300 two - £50
hard drive seagate barracuda 1tb or ssd of choice - hdd £60 ssd £70
cooler stock intel - comes with processor

total cost- £540 so some extra money to put towards monitor maybe.
hope I helped

 

[zared619]

when you get into the mid-range GPU's such as the 7850 and 7870, and half decent CPU will game the same. You will not notice any difference between an i5-3470 with a 7870 and a 6300 with a 7870. The difference in every game would be absolutely not more than 3-5 FPS.

I myself have a 6300 and a 7850. I have yet to find a game that I cannot max out with 35+ FPS. I play Metro2033 and Crysis.

AMD is a very viable option on a budget build.

@xjdsx
Your price is in British pounds. That actually puts you over the OP's 650 euro budget.

 

[nix327]

when you get into the mid-range GPU's such as the 7850 and 7870, and half decent CPU will game the same. You will not notice any difference between an i5-3470 with a 7870 and a 6300 with a 7870. The difference in every game would be absolutely not more than 3-5 FPS.

I myself have a 6300 and a 7850. I have yet to find a game that I cannot max out with 35+ FPS. I play Metro2033 and Crysis.

AMD is a very viable option on a budget build.

@xjdsx
Your price is in British pounds. That actually puts you over the OP's 650 euro budget.

fx 6300 is somewhere between the i3 and i5..if the OP is limited by budget then i guess its better to go with the 6300 as it will be better in upcoming games if they are optimized for using multiple cores..other wise i5 is better in both single threaded and multi-threaded applications..

 

[zared619]

fx 6300 is somewhere between the i3 and i5..if the OP is limited by budget then i guess its better to go with the 6300 as it will be better in upcoming games if they are optimized for using multiple cores..other wise i5 is better in both single threaded and multi-threaded applications..

I couldn't agree more. That then brings up the question, when will the 6300 start to bottleneck a GPU. A 7870?, 7970? The key to a good gaming build is maximizing the performance of both the CPU and GPU to try to limit a bottleneck.

I believe that with the OP's budget, a 6300 paired with a 7870 or a 7950 if possible is the best option.

 

[nix327]

I couldn't agree more. That then brings up the question, when will the 6300 start to bottleneck a GPU. A 7870?, 7970? The key to a good gaming build is maximizing the performance of both the CPU and GPU to try to limit a bottleneck.

I believe that with the OP's budget, a 6300 paired with a 7870 or a 7950 if possible is the best option.

To have a better understanding of things..what exactly does a CPU do in a game? (because i've no idea)..n what makes a game CPU intensive?

 

[zared619]

That's actually a very interesting question, and by interesting, I mean difficult. To really understand that fully you need to have an understanding in computer and software architecture.

Basically, the CPU handles the basic processes of running the game. This is why CPU gaming tests are on low resolutions with graphic settings turned down.

The GPU handles basically everything else such as textures, lighting, increased resolution. All the stuff that makes the game look good and run smoothly at those settings is the GPU's job.

 

[nix327]

That's actually a very interesting question, and by interesting, I mean difficult. To really understand that fully you need to have an understanding in computer and software architecture.

Basically, the CPU handles the basic processes of running the game. This is why CPU gaming tests are on low resolutions with graphic settings turned down.

The GPU handles basically everything else such as textures, lighting, increased resolution. All the stuff that makes the game look good and run smoothly at those settings is the GPU's job.

I guess i'll have to read more on that to get a better idea...thanks for the reply

 

[zared619]

It's a little vague, but reading into it should give you some answers.

 

[nix327]

It's a little vague, but reading into it should give you some answers.

I do understand what you said..its difficult for you to explain it in detail with the lack of knowledge on the 'architecture stuff' on my part..what i meant was that i have to do some more reading on the technical stuff..
edit: you did well in providing a simple answer

 

[samraptor]

i would buy a standallone cpu such as fx-4170 that way your not spending an etra £30 on a cooler which you will probally replace with a 212 anyway

also hd 7850 seems to be a good card for you

 

[zared619]

i would buy a standallone cpu such as fx-4170 that way your not spending an etra £30 on a cooler which you will probally replace with a 212 anyway

also hd 7850 seems to be a good card for you

That doesn't make any sense. You shouldn't base what CPU you are going to buy on the basis of it having a heatsink or not.