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7970 or 660 ti? (What would be good for me)

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October 21, 2012 5:39:50 PM

Okay so i am looking at the 660ti or the 7970, the 660ti I cheaper than the 7970 $100 or so.. and I was wondering if it is worth it to pay that much more for it.

I am using a 1920x1080 monitor and probably will not add another one. I want to play a wide variety of games on max settings with high fps also.

My Build- http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/kjBp

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October 21, 2012 5:50:29 PM





If i were you, i'd stick with the 660ti, and it's a big $100 difference too
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October 21, 2012 5:54:09 PM

Benchmarks without a website are meaningless.
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October 21, 2012 5:57:15 PM

It really depends on what games you are playing. If you play games like Crysis and Metro, the 7970 is probably worth it. Games like BF3 and Skyrim, the 660ti can actually outperform the 7970. If it were me, I would get the 660ti and overclock to even better match the 7970.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508?vs=647
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October 21, 2012 6:00:30 PM

azeem40 said:
Benchmarks without a website are meaningless.

I'm confused :??: 
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October 21, 2012 6:01:06 PM

7970 is a stronger GPU hands down. BF3 is an exception, it favors nVidia. It depends on your budget. 660ti is more comparable with 7950.
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October 21, 2012 6:06:06 PM

The new AMD drivers have really closed the gap between nVidia cards and AMD cards. Skyrim and Battlefield 3 are exceptions, but now the price/performance ratio is much more comparable, if not better for AMD. The Radeon HD 7970 and GTX 660Ti GPUs are both very strong, but an overclocked after-market Radeon HD 7970 will outperform the GTX 660Ti is almost every scenario, if not coming 1-5 FPS of its equivalent.

I would take a look at the Radeon HD 7970 if you want a card now, if not, wait a few months. Christmas deals will be great, especially if AMD does release the Radeon HD 8000 series.
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October 21, 2012 6:22:26 PM

locomoco321 said:
The new AMD drivers have really closed the gap between nVidia cards and AMD cards. Skyrim and Battlefield 3 are exceptions, but now the price/performance ratio is much more comparable, if not better for AMD. The Radeon HD 7970 and GTX 660Ti GPUs are both very strong, but an overclocked after-market Radeon HD 7970 will outperform the GTX 660Ti is almost every scenario, if not coming 1-5 FPS of its equivalent.

I would take a look at the Radeon HD 7970 if you want a card now, if not, wait a few months. Christmas deals will be great, especially if AMD does release the Radeon HD 8000 series.
That is probably when I will buy my build, so should I get the 7970 if the HD 8000 series comes out?

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October 21, 2012 6:27:07 PM

Techguy1 said:
Ok I think I will stick with the 660ti and your saying that the $100 difference isn't worth it? Or it is?

Mate, the HD 7970 in the benches above was the reference edition which is on par with GTX 670 not the GHz edition, the GHz edition is on par with GTX 680 and 10% faster than the reference one. This means that the HD 7970 GHz edition is 16% faster than GTX 660ti according to these charts. now the question is "Which HD 7970 are you talking about?"
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October 21, 2012 6:28:37 PM

It's too early to tell. We do know that the 7970 is about the best that $400 dollars can buy right now. It's probably a pretty safe bet that there will be a $400 price point in the 8000 series that will be better.
If it isn't out when you decide you are gonna build I wouldn't worry about it. There is always new stuff coming out, and you can't just wait around forever.
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October 21, 2012 6:29:29 PM

Like zared619 said, it really does depend on the games you play. But i would get the 660ti and overclock it
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October 21, 2012 6:33:44 PM

ilysaml said:
Mate, the HD 7970 in the benches above was the reference edition which is on par with GTX 670 not the GHz edition, the GHz edition is on par with GTX 680 and 10% faster than the reference one. This means that the HD 7970 GHz edition is 16% faster than GTX 660ti according to these charts. now the question is "Which HD 7970 are you talking about?"
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/images/perfrel_1920.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The one in the link on my post
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October 21, 2012 6:41:01 PM

This is the reference one. However, you can OC it to the levels of the GHz edition and enjoy the ultimate performance.

If you're on a strict budget, Grab the HD 7950 it's the same as the GTX 660ti but with the exception that all the HD 7K series are great overclockers, you can OC the HD 7950 to the levels of HD 7970 and above, there was an article by guru3d explains and benchmarks the HD 7950 when it's overclocked.

There's no confirmation yet about the specs & launch date of HD 8K series specially the flagship card and as every year, we'll get to know about it at Xmas days.
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October 21, 2012 6:43:51 PM

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I've done some more research, there's the $100 price gap, what processor are you using?
$300 Nvidia 660 Ti = 7950 $322
$400 Nvidia 670 = 7970 $400
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October 21, 2012 6:45:35 PM

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This is the reference one. However, you can OC it to the levels of the GHz edition and enjoy the ultimate performance.

If you're on a strict budget, Grab the HD 7950 it's the same as the GTX 660ti but with the exception that all the HD 7K series are great overclockers, you can OC the HD 7950 to the levels of HD 7970 and above, there was an article by guru3d explains and benchmarks the HD 7950 when it's overclocked.

There's no confirmation yet about the specs & launch date of HD 8K series specially the flagship card and as every year, we'll get to know about it at Xmas days.

What is a good 7970 ghz edition card to get? That isn't too expensive, I will take a look at it. I have never overclocked before also and I dont know how. Is it easy and how do I know what to put it at and such.
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October 21, 2012 6:55:03 PM

It's just a simple tries and few clicks, no need to worry. If you don't wanna pay $450 for a card just get the HD 7950 which is $150 less, and in the same time can give you comparable results compared to HD 7970.

The best GHz are the Gigabyte, Sapphire VaporX, ASUS DCUII & MSI Lightening. They range from $450 to $480 if not $500.
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October 21, 2012 10:11:02 PM

*You simply need to commit to a budget.

I have an ASUS GTX680 TOP and many of my games look and play BETTER than if using a lower-end card, on the other hand some others are already maxed out for quality. Diablo 3 is not very demanding. BF3 is very demanding.

Battlefield 3:
There's an Anti-Aliasing setting (deferred?) that really makes the screen look muddy and crappy. Keep that in mind if you play. You'll want it off.

I tend to favor NVIDIA (Adaptive VSYNC, PHYSX, FXAA for future games, IMO better driver support). I don't consider myself a "fanboy"; I buy based on benchmarks and features.

It's best to ERR on the side of the BETTER CARD. I've met plenty of people who wished their graphics card was slightly better and very few that complained they wasted their money as it was overkill.

This card is back-ordered but it's my #1 pick for a $440 price range:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=71741&vpn=GTX670-DC2T-...

Here is the REVIEW of the Asus GTX670 TOP (make sure it is the DC2T model):
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

*Note: relative performance varies by the game.

There's nothing overly WRONG with AMD and an HD7950/70 is still an awesome card. If you think the value is with one of them, then I recommend Sapphire Tech or the Asus DCII as "ilysami" mentioned. I warn against MSI without investigating as they were in the news recently due to an issue with overvolting cards to overclock (apparently many failed).
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October 21, 2012 10:23:14 PM

@ photonboy -- Isn't the 670 top just an overclocked 670? I have the Asus 670 non top version and it has the exact same cooler as the Top. I think that the consensus is get the non top and overclock.

@ OP -- I think the new 7970s will roll a 660ti.

If you must go NVIDIA, get a 670--its a great card--I have two of them, they run anything out there. However, at this point the 7970 Ghz edition is the king of the GPUs (I got my 670s before AMD changed it's pricing scheme).

Go with the 7970, it's a great card by all accounts and will run laps around 660ti.
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October 21, 2012 11:25:15 PM

zared619 said:
I'm confused :??: 
He is just trying to school you you're not doing it properly the way you need to do it for it to be considered creditable is post a link of where the benchmarks you post came from even though it says TH right on the benchmarks, that is not the proper acceptable way to post benchmarks

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October 22, 2012 3:45:34 AM

This topic has been moved from the section Systems to section Graphics & Displays by Area51reopened
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October 22, 2012 6:48:31 AM

nstiver said:
@ photonboy -- Isn't the 670 top just an overclocked 670? I have the Asus 670 non top version and it has the exact same cooler as the Top. I think that the consensus is get the non top and overclock.

@ OP -- I think the new 7970s will roll a 660ti.

If you must go NVIDIA, get a 670--its a great card--I have two of them, they run anything out there. However, at this point the 7970 Ghz edition is the king of the GPUs (I got my 670s before AMD changed it's pricing scheme).

Go with the 7970, it's a great card by all accounts and will run laps around 660ti.


Points:
- The TOP version uses a binned GPU. They test the GPU's (they vary in quality) and use the best ones for the TOP cards. There may also be other hardware changes to support the higher power but I haven't looked into that.

- HD7970 GHz runs "laps" around GTX660Ti?
Uh, maybe but I just looked up prices and the cheapest HD7970 GHz was $450 and the cheapest GTX660Ti is $300.

You should be comparing to the Asus GTX670 TOP ($440) or a stock GTX680 ($450 and up) at this price point.

NVidia vs AMD:
There are other advantages aside from raw benchmarks too (adaptive VSYNC, PHYSX, and FXAA for the upcoming Unreal 4 engine and other engines.)
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October 22, 2012 6:55:56 AM

670.
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October 22, 2012 7:10:55 AM

Have you guys addressed the PSU yet or did you miss it?(Didn't take the time to read through all the posts.)

If your planning on O.C.ing your CPU and the GPU I would suggest getting a different PSU.The Rosewill PSU you have in your cart is an "alright" PSU but it's intended for low to mid level builds.Technically speaking it will work but you always want to have some headroom.Who knows maybe you'll buy a 2nd GPU later on.

As for the initial question, if I had to choose I would go for the GTX660ti.BUT for $400 a 7870 crossfire is very doable which outperforms both.
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October 22, 2012 10:58:21 AM

im an nvidia fan boy but i will go 7970 hands down if you could.
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October 22, 2012 2:32:26 PM

the HD 7970 hands down or GTX 670
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October 22, 2012 9:35:06 PM

purple stank said:
Have you guys addressed the PSU yet or did you miss it?(Didn't take the time to read through all the posts.)

If your planning on O.C.ing your CPU and the GPU I would suggest getting a different PSU.The Rosewill PSU you have in your cart is an "alright" PSU but it's intended for low to mid level builds.Technically speaking it will work but you always want to have some headroom.Who knows maybe you'll buy a 2nd GPU later on.

As for the initial question, if I had to choose I would go for the GTX660ti.BUT for $400 a 7870 crossfire is very doable which outperforms both.
What PSU would you recommend that isn't to expensive would like to keep it under $100, and one that would be good for some headroom.
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October 22, 2012 9:39:27 PM

If you won't add another GPU, this PSU should be sufficient for any high end GPU.
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October 22, 2012 9:50:21 PM

ilysaml said:
If you won't add another GPU, this PSU should be sufficient for any high end GPU.
Ok thank you, and could you look at my post on the two cards I just put up.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
October 22, 2012 10:14:33 PM

The 670 is a reference design one, non-reference designed cards are cooler by 20C at full load.

I still recommend the HD 7970.
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October 23, 2012 12:28:08 AM

I'm pretty sure EVGA use's that cooling design with all of the GTX670's they make with the exception of the FTW version.The PCB itself is not reference it's just the blower style fan that the reference designs use.Blower style fans run hotter GPU temps but they don't exhaust the hot air into the case.It's kind of a trade off.Personally though I would go for an aftermarket cooling solution.
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October 23, 2012 4:17:21 AM

Oh no not this thread again
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October 30, 2012 12:02:25 AM

Best answer selected by Techguy1.
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