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December 11, 2012 5:46:22 AM

Hi guys!

I'm new here and relatively new when it comes to personalized gaming desktops.
I am looking for a new gaming rig that will pretty much run every game at the moment on high/ultra settings.
The thing is, I see Alienware adds everywhere and ended up taking a look at the Alienware Aurora.
The rig looks pretty good, at least to my eyes, but I have seen a lot of threads before, saying that "building your own PC will come out cheap".

So here is the deal, the settings I am showing here will cost about 2,300 euros. A lot I know... but can I build it cheaper?

«Case» Alienware Aurora 875W-chassis (Matte Black)
«Processor» Intel® Core™ i7-3930K (Six Core, 12MB Cache Overclocked up to 3.9Ghz)
«Operative system» Windows 8 64bit , Dutch version
«Graphic card» 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GTX 680
«Memory» 8.192 MB (4 x 2 GB) 1.600 MHz Quad Channel DDR3
«Hard disk» 1 TB - SATA II, 7.200 rpm, 32 MB cache
«Optic station» 8X Blu-Ray ROM Drive W8
«Sound card» Geïntegreerde HD-audio met Dolby Digital 7.1
«Wireless connectivity» 802.11n WiFi- en Bluetooth 2.1 EDR USB-combinatieadapter

Also, I would like to add that I have never built a computer before, and from what I see in the forums, it doesn't seem that easy. I just don't wanna mess up in a build.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks!

Jaime

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December 11, 2012 5:52:46 AM

Build your own PC dude. Learning how to build your own is priceless and soon you will realize how overrated and overpriced alienware stuff are. Building a PC is actually very simple, treat it like a puzzle where piece fit to specific headers and cables. You can never go wrong in building a PC today. Most have the thought that they might erroneously connect parts and cables but that's a thing of the past now. Nobody taught me how to build a PC but I can proudly say to you I know enough now up to custom watercooling installation. Compatibility is also one FAQ for most PC builder newbies. You can find a lot of tutorials regarding how to build a PC by your own, it's cheaper and I assure you it will be better in all accounts be it performance or looks.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 11, 2012 6:19:07 AM

agree with najirion, build your own.... Alienware is overrated :) 
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December 11, 2012 6:23:31 AM

All those points are relevant. Also you get a great deal of satisfaction building your own machine instead of letting Alienware steal from you and smiling about it.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 11, 2012 6:28:31 AM

I was a laptop only guy until I decided I wanted the speed of a desktop for gaming. I had to do some research and ask questions but in the end I saved myself at least $200 by doing it myself. And in doing so I can troubleshoot and modify things to get the most out of my system. Also, most custom builds do not give you total control of the components. I build my PC myself and have no regrets.

If I simply wanted to game and not invest time learning about how components work together then I'd say a Alienware PC is the best choice.

€2300=$3000usd. Wow. I could build a gaming desktop that would seem on par with yours for $1500-1800, and mine would have a SSD drive too.
December 11, 2012 7:30:41 AM

najirion said:
Build your own PC dude. Learning how to build your own is priceless and soon you will realize how overrated and overpriced alienware stuff are. Building a PC is actually very simple, treat it like a puzzle where piece fit to specific headers and cables. You can never go wrong in building a PC today. Most have the thought that they might erroneously connect parts and cables but that's a thing of the past now. Nobody taught me how to build a PC but I can proudly say to you I know enough now up to custom watercooling installation. Compatibility is also one FAQ for most PC builder newbies. You can find a lot of tutorials regarding how to build a PC by your own, it's cheaper and I assure you it will be better in all accounts be it performance or looks.



najirion, thanks for the reply, and I understand your points. Thing is, I am living in Holland for a year now, I have got no idea where to buy all the hardware, or even which case I should buy. Do you happen to know any european website that sells all the components necessary?
You got me with Alienware being overpriced, but to be honest, I dont even know where to start =/
December 11, 2012 7:45:31 AM

you can order evertything you want from amazon.co.uk , most with free shipment, but there are tons of hardware stores, I am sure you can find a couple national ones.
December 11, 2012 7:47:36 AM

envy14tpe said:
I was a laptop only guy until I decided I wanted the speed of a desktop for gaming. I had to do some research and ask questions but in the end I saved myself at least $200 by doing it myself. And in doing so I can troubleshoot and modify things to get the most out of my system. Also, most custom builds do not give you total control of the components. I build my PC myself and have no regrets.

If I simply wanted to game and not invest time learning about how components work together then I'd say a Alienware PC is the best choice.

€2300=$3000usd. Wow. I could build a gaming desktop that would seem on par with yours for $1500-1800, and mine would have a SSD drive too.



Hey envy14tpe,

I totally understand where you re coming from.
The thing is, and I am completely honest in this, I am a big noob when it comes to pc components and assembly.. I mean, if I was in Portugal, my home country, I probably would have someone to help me on this, but since I live in Holland now, I dont think that is going to happen.

So looking at this, I would say I have 3 options.

1 Buy a pre built gaming pc and live with the fact that the product I am buying is overpriced and might have issues with upgrading after some time.

2 Have a specialized computer shop build it for me, with the specs I want, and maybe not get the supoport and warranty that well known brands offer( to be honest I dont trust those guys that much either)

3 Come here and speak directly to the community, who have far more knowledge than me in this.
If I would try to build it, what would you recommend?

I mean, I would like to have one of the latest intel i7 processors, along with a top notch graphics card, lets say, NVIDIA® GTX 680.

Can you or someone please advise me on this?

I am talking about everything, from the case, to power supply, fans, everything. Otherwise I might end up building something that doesnt work or that bottlenecks at some point due to a poor choice in one of the components.

Thanks once more, all of this is a big help
December 11, 2012 7:51:50 AM

Caspase said:
you can order evertything you want from amazon.co.uk , most with free shipment, but there are tons of hardware stores, I am sure you can find a couple national ones.



Hey Caspase,

thanks for the reply dude,

what do you think a good configuration would be?

Im talking about intel i7 and geforce GTXn along with the rest that I have no idea...

I wanted something capable of playing battlefield 3 on ultra, and with a good overall performance for a day to day use. Of course also that it would last at least 1 year or so without having to upgrade the graphics card or some other component.

thanks
December 11, 2012 7:59:22 AM

Also thinking about having windows 8 as operative system. I know some people have some bad things to say about windows 8, regarding how confused it is and so on, but my gf has windows 8 and after a day playing with it, I am quite comfortable with the system. I dont think gaming would be a problem either
a b B Homebuilt system
December 11, 2012 9:06:40 AM

In that case, I'd find a store to put it together for me. Then, I could ask communities and read advice.

Honestly a 680 is expensive and overkill unless you want multiple monitors (3of them).

I play BF3 on Ultra w/ 4xMSAA and I do this on a i5 and 660ti.
December 11, 2012 9:09:01 AM

With that kind of budget I would do something like this:

Case: Corsair carbide 500r white/obsidian series (mostly visual preference)
PSU: Corsair AX 850w (currently in promotion with free sleeved cables)
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H
CPU: i7 3770k
Cooler: Corsair hydro series h100i
GPU: SLI gigabyte gtx 670 windforce oc
SSD: Samsung 830/crucial m4 250 gb
HDD: Western digital Blue 1tb
ram: Any 2x 4 gb 1600 cl9 ram. Attention, if you buy a bulky cpu cooler like noctua, buy low profile. And if you buy corsair carbide 500r case in white, consider corsair low profile low voltage artic white edition
Cheap Blu-ray/DVD player burner

And I think you are set... See how much that adds up. I estimate around 1900€, but you can subtract one gtx 670 and then you woulg get like 1600 or something.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 11, 2012 9:16:53 AM

partspicker.com is a great place to start :)  do a bunch of Virtual builds then get her dun, have fun
December 11, 2012 10:37:30 AM

If you are uncomfortable building your own PC but do not want to pay the crazy high prices of alienware and you want that high quality component choice like you have with your own builds the a site like www.cyberpowerpc.com would be perfect for you.

at cyberpowerpc.com you can choose from a huge selection of components just like you would if you were building it yourself. Obviously cyberpowerpc.com will be a little more expensive then doing it yourself but it will be way cheaper than alienware and with better quality components that you get to choose.
December 11, 2012 11:52:44 AM

Hmmmm.. I don't really recommended partspicker for several reasons
> it doesn't consider your preferences, it just picks what is available based on your price range
> it doesn't reflect reviews about the hardware

I still suggest doing it manually.

About finding a right dealer, ask your friends where they buy PC parts, get a catalog and see what is available. Then please answer the following questions.

1) how many monitors do you plan to use
2) do you plan to overclock/learn how to overclock
3) what are the kind of games you plan to play or software you would be using
4) how small or large you want your PC (size)
5) do you have A/C at home or to where you would be putting the PC?
6) what's your budget (even though you placed something there, I'll just ask again)

the kind of PC you need would depend on your answers wherein it would comprised of the OPTIMAL specs without overkill or overshooting the specs.
December 11, 2012 12:08:39 PM

why can't he just use cyberpowerpc.com? He isn't comfortable building it himself. Cyberpowerpc doesn't charge a ton extra to build it. It's a good option if you arent comfortable building it yourself. You end up only paying maybe like 200-300 extra over building it yourself depending on what components you choose.
December 11, 2012 1:39:27 PM

najirion said:
Hmmmm.. I don't really recommended partspicker for several reasons
> it doesn't consider your preferences, it just picks what is available based on your price range
> it doesn't reflect reviews about the hardware

I still suggest doing it manually.

About finding a right dealer, ask your friends where they buy PC parts, get a catalog and see what is available. Then please answer the following questions.

1) how many monitors do you plan to use
2) do you plan to overclock/learn how to overclock
3) what are the kind of games you plan to play or software you would be using
4) how small or large you want your PC (size)
5) do you have A/C at home or to where you would be putting the PC?
6) what's your budget (even though you placed something there, I'll just ask again)

the kind of PC you need would depend on your answers wherein it would comprised of the OPTIMAL specs without overkill or overshooting the specs.



Hey najirion, thanks again for replying!

I have looked up some videos on youtube about building your own pc, and now it does not seem so complicated to do it anymore.

I have two subjects to adress so I will start with replying to what you have just asked me:

First of all, I don't have any friends in Holland yet =/ well, maybe 2 or 3 but no one that can help me with these things so maybe amazon.co.uk would be a good option to acquire parts.

Now, the answers :

1 I only plan to use 1 monitor, of either 24 or 27 inches.
2 I have heard a lot about over clocking but I dont exactly know what it is. Never looked too much into it because the pre built computers I was looking at had already the option to come overclocked or not. So I really dont know, maybe you have a suggestion on this point.
3 I plan to play games such as Battlefield 3, Skyrim, latest Cod series, Diablo 3, Far cry 3, etc.. but I would like not only to play these games in 1080p but also at 60 frames. The operative system would be windows 8 home edition and it would be nice if the photoshop cs5 wouldnt choke in terms of performance. Then just regular stuff like internet browsing and watching movies.
4 Does not really matter the size, but I dont want a small desktop that gets stuffed and cant be upgraded/expanded.
Well, the budget is not actually 2300 euros, that is why I came to get help from you guys. In my opinion, that is too much money to pay for a pc. But I would say 1100 euros, that is a price I will be able to afford, without including a monitor (already have one) So yeah, in dollars, 1500 or tops 1600 usd.


So that is the first topic. Secondly, even though I am now more comfortable with perhaps building my own gaming pc..I was wondering if any of these are good.. they are within budget and seem good, to my untrained eye.. but Im not sure about the real quality.. check it out:

(plus I dont know if these websites ship to Holland.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?url=%2fs...

(The second one seems nice no?)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_XLC

Thanks once more
December 11, 2012 1:39:56 PM

najirion said:
Hmmmm.. I don't really recommended partspicker for several reasons
> it doesn't consider your preferences, it just picks what is available based on your price range
> it doesn't reflect reviews about the hardware

I still suggest doing it manually.

About finding a right dealer, ask your friends where they buy PC parts, get a catalog and see what is available. Then please answer the following questions.

1) how many monitors do you plan to use
2) do you plan to overclock/learn how to overclock
3) what are the kind of games you plan to play or software you would be using
4) how small or large you want your PC (size)
5) do you have A/C at home or to where you would be putting the PC?
6) what's your budget (even though you placed something there, I'll just ask again)

the kind of PC you need would depend on your answers wherein it would comprised of the OPTIMAL specs without overkill or overshooting the specs.



Hey najirion, thanks again for replying!

I have looked up some videos on youtube about building your own pc, and now it does not seem so complicated to do it anymore.

I have two subjects to adress so I will start with replying to what you have just asked me:

First of all, I don't have any friends in Holland yet =/ well, maybe 2 or 3 but no one that can help me with these things so maybe amazon.co.uk would be a good option to acquire parts.

Now, the answers :

1 I only plan to use 1 monitor, of either 24 or 27 inches.
2 I have heard a lot about over clocking but I dont exactly know what it is. Never looked too much into it because the pre built computers I was looking at had already the option to come overclocked or not. So I really dont know, maybe you have a suggestion on this point.
3 I plan to play games such as Battlefield 3, Skyrim, latest Cod series, Diablo 3, Far cry 3, etc.. but I would like not only to play these games in 1080p but also at 60 frames. The operative system would be windows 8 home edition and it would be nice if the photoshop cs5 wouldnt choke in terms of performance. Then just regular stuff like internet browsing and watching movies.
4 Does not really matter the size, but I dont want a small desktop that gets stuffed and cant be upgraded/expanded.
Well, the budget is not actually 2300 euros, that is why I came to get help from you guys. In my opinion, that is too much money to pay for a pc. But I would say 1100 euros, that is a price I will be able to afford, without including a monitor (already have one) So yeah, in dollars, 1500 or tops 1600 usd.


So that is the first topic. Secondly, even though I am now more comfortable with perhaps building my own gaming pc..I was wondering if any of these are good.. they are within budget and seem good, to my untrained eye.. but Im not sure about the real quality.. check it out:

(plus I dont know if these websites ship to Holland.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?url=%2fs...

(The second one seems nice no?)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_XLC

Thanks once more
December 11, 2012 2:35:36 PM

newegg and cyberpowerpc are good and legit sources but bear in mind that there are some cons in shopping online.

> shipping: time needed and the possibilities of damages during transit. Although that would be covered by the dealer, shipping a dead item back to them would take a lot of time compared to talking to your dealer at a store near you.
> sales talks: you can never hear online customer support people saying cons about certain hardware but store owners do that sometimes if you can find a good one.

Anyway! back to recommending parts you need.
1) Since you would only use 1 monitor, a GTX 670 or HD 7950 would be enough (this is slightly overkill IMHO but just for the sake of futureproofing and crysis 3-proofing LOL). You would only need higher VRAM capacities if you use 2 or more monitors since having more monitors eat more VRAM

2) Since you don't plan to overclock i7-3930K is not only overkill for gaming, the overclocking capability would be wasted too which is something you would be paying. as Tom's hardware suggest, i5-3570k is already enough for gaming needs. You can get the non-K version (i5-3570) which is cheaper than the unlocked version if you think there is no way you would be overclocking in the future. (But I suggest you get the K version because overclocking is actually very simple!)

3) gaming: an i5-3570k + GTX 670 or HD 7950 will be able to play all of the mentioned games with ease. Based on the GAMER INFINITY XLC you posted, it is even better with an i7-3770k but I assure you, stepping down to an i5 is totally fine if you want to save some bucks

ISSUES I FIND IN THE GAMER INFINITY XLC

1) It uses an All-in-one watercooler. That's fine but you do need to be careful in un-mounting and mounting it when cleaning
2) HX1050 is a bit overkill but that's fine. However you can get a more efficient power supply with better 80+ certification for a more power-efficient PC. It will cost more but it will save you from higher electric bills in the long-run.
3) It doesn't have a SSD for boot drive. It will make it significantly faster

The newegg PC is almost similar except for the graphics card. I think newegg is only favorable if you live in America but not elsewhere. Shipping would be very troublesome.

December 11, 2012 7:01:18 PM

Hey najirion,

First I would like to say thank you, not only to you but the other users who gave their opinion. I had never subscribed to a forum like this, but I gotta say, the feedback from you guys is really helpful.

I understand that having one built at a local dealer, but here in Amsterdam I havent really found any good store that would do it for me. I went to one shop and they asked me for 450€ for building it for me... so it was really too much.

I think I will not build the desktop myself, but what I will do is try to get in contact with more people that are into IT stuff, and computer assembly, so I will be able to build my next pc, or upgrade this one that I will buy with ease.

So, I checked a bit more the INFINITY XLC, and I do like it, and I think I will purchase it in the end of December.
But!!! lol, this will really brand me as a newbie.. There are some components at the damn shop..that I dont know if are needed or not. I got confused with the 2TB memory and the ssd memory. I should have both right? Then in which section should I choose it?
Also, the motherboard, it doesnt say HDMI, and some do... so does that mean that it wont come with an HDMI entrance for me to connect a HD TV for example?

Also I looked at the liquid cooling... do I really need it or can I go down to the standard heat sink...?

Anyway, last think I would ask you, if possible.. perhaps if you could sort of go through the config of the INFINITY XLC and cut down stuff that is not really necessary lol...Anyway, if not, it was already a pretty good help and Im sure Ill be able to call their callcenter.

Thanks man, great help, good tips.
December 11, 2012 9:06:01 PM

HDMI comes of course in the graphics card...jeez...what am I asking..?
December 11, 2012 9:54:32 PM

Yep hehehe. You would be connecting the HDMI connection from the monitor or TV to the graphics card directly :)  But it would be nice to have a HDMI port in the motherboard as well for back-up and troubleshooting purposes.

About SSD and HDD. Basically you would want to install your Operating System (Windows 8) and other necessary applications and even the games to the SSD because it reads and writes faster than HDD (like more than 10x faster). With that, application runs faster and performs better in general :) 

Watercooling is not really that dangerous. Asetek is a proven maker since they make AIO watercoolers for various brands (Corsair, Antec, NZXT and so on I believe) You just need to be extra careful because you do need to clean it from time to time. If you have a blower then cleaning would be a breeze. In terms of performance, watercoolers will be better in keeping your processor chilled :) 

Actually I like the site because it had a lot of customization options which is nice.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2012 12:18:12 AM

I think he cought the builder bug :)  another great sight to look at for moding needs is
frozencpu.com
December 12, 2012 12:48:37 AM

dsventimiglia said:
I think he cought the builder bug :)  another great sight to look at for moding needs is
frozencpu.com


frozencpu is a good source but that's in the US, he is in Europe, In Amsterdam, North Holland to be specific if you read his replies. That is just too far and shopping these for an entire rig is not wise. He'd be better off shopping at http://www.scan.co.uk/ or http://www.aria.co.uk/
a c 93 B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2012 2:24:59 AM

najirion said:
frozencpu is a good source but that's in the US, he is in Europe, In Amsterdam, North Holland to be specific if you read his replies. That is just too far and shopping these for an entire rig is not wise. He'd be better off shopping at http://www.scan.co.uk/ or http://www.aria.co.uk/


No he'd actually be better off shopping at one of the Netherlands-specific stores like Azerty, Pixmania, or Alternate. The UK based stores most likely won't ship to the Netherlands.
December 12, 2012 2:36:25 AM

g-unit1111 said:
No he'd actually be better off shopping at one of the Netherlands-specific stores like Azerty, Pixmania, or Alternate. The UK based stores most likely won't ship to the Netherlands.

that would even be better. just emphasizing the point that closer stores are better :) 
December 12, 2012 4:53:58 AM

oh man!! najirion and g-unit111! thanks! I was lookink at cyberpowerpc.com and it does not deliver to Europe! At least that is what I thought I saw yesterday! So I already went to sleep thinking: "Ok then I guess I ll have to build mine lol!"
I did catch the builder bug xD the only con I can identify is the fact that in case the desktop wont work for some reason, I wont be able to send it for warranty, I will have to identify the problem and send that specific part to the manufacturer.

Oh najirion, ok so I should have ssd also to install the operative system and so on, but I was asking cuz at the cyberpower website they give choices like (Hard drive) and I can choose HDD or SSD, and then after they let me choose (Data hard drive) also HDD and SSD and I didnt know if I should get the SSD in Hard drive or Data hard drive

December 12, 2012 4:58:22 AM

I will be checking these stores you guys told me for the netherlands!
December 12, 2012 5:11:31 AM

haha glad you're liking the knowledge. Well, it is a good choice considering that modern living require having a PC at home or using one at the office. :) 
Basically you would want to have a SSD boot drive (where the OS and necessary programs are)
Then a HDD data drive to keep stuff like audio and video files, documents and so on.
A huge advantage of having a SSD boot drive includes
1) Faster cold boot (turning on your PC)
2) Faster application processing (for applications installed in the SSD)
3) Security and longevity of data storage (SSD are proven to be more durable than HDD given that it wasn't manufactured defective)
December 12, 2012 7:14:20 AM

Ok cool. Alright, the Dutch websites provided by g-unit1111 are good for parts I guess.. but dont have the functionality of cyberpowerpc.com
So I guess I will be building mine after all :) 
Found this video on youtube, of this guy called Carey Holzman, who used to work for intel and so on.. and he shows step by step how to build a computer, which is good!
So now I am not afraid to build it anymore, well, at least I dont feel like I am about to fall off a cliff xD but I still dont know some stuff like for example.
I get a graphic card and a mobo and lets say the cpu... what if some of the other parts I get are not compatible? lol So I am gonna take like 20 minutes now to look for parts that I would like and to fit inside my budget of 1200€

( I dont know if these things are overclocked cuz I dont know the designation in Dutch for it)

«CPU» 208 euros
http://www.pixmania.nl/nl/nl/11764446/art/intel/core-i5...

«Graphics card» 370 euros
http://tweakers.net/product/316620/gigabyte-geforce-gtx...

«motherboard» 266 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/316291/gigabyte-ga-z77x-...

«SSD memory» 163 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/282242/crucial-m4-ct256m...

«HDD memory» ( I dont need more than 2 TB) 85 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/297052/seagate-barracuda...

«Tower» ( This one looks good and has a lot of fans already which is good) 105 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/307878/nzxt-crafted-seri...

«Memory» I dont need QUAD do I? 35 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/312936/patriot-viper-3-p...

«Cooler» 27 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/294328/cooler-master-hyp...

«Power supply» 100 euros
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/277938/corsair-enthusias...

What else am I missing? I chose the mother up5 because in a review I saw that the up4 (my first choice) didnt have wifi.. so I thought I maybe would be needing the up5 right? I wanna catch wireless signal so I dont know what else I need.

Also I dont know which optical drive I should get.

Maybe I am even missing some components, so please if you could tell which ones are missing and if you have any different suggestions for what I have already chosen.

Much appreciated
December 12, 2012 7:22:29 AM

jeez...I actually surpassed by budget..only wanted to spend 1200 euros and now with these parts I am up to 1359 euros...damn it..
December 12, 2012 2:37:16 PM

Nice selection! So you like gigabyte? a lot likes them too. I'm an asus board guy but I will not push that to you. 8gbs of ram is more than enough for gaming. I have never played a game that maxed out my 8gb ram. Nice chassis too! really like that phantom 410 with orange trim. M4 is one of the fastest SSDs, OCZ vector is the fastest with now but is also expensive. About the mobo, what you should be weighing is the features like how many sata ports, pcie 3.0 ports and stuff like that. If you don't really need 2 x pcie 3.0 why not get an mATX board? It would be cheaper.
December 12, 2012 5:16:07 PM

najirion said:
Nice selection! So you like gigabyte? a lot likes them too. I'm an asus board guy but I will not push that to you. 8gbs of ram is more than enough for gaming. I have never played a game that maxed out my 8gb ram. Nice chassis too! really like that phantom 410 with orange trim. M4 is one of the fastest SSDs, OCZ vector is the fastest with now but is also expensive. About the mobo, what you should be weighing is the features like how many sata ports, pcie 3.0 ports and stuff like that. If you don't really need 2 x pcie 3.0 why not get an mATX board? It would be cheaper.



Hey man, thanks! lol it took me a long time to figure out this configuration but as I said the parts I chose passed my budget. So I have decided to take a lower storage ssd around 120 gbs and a lower hdd (1TB) , I really dont need more than that, I just want windows 8 and a couple more programs installed in the ssd and I already have a 1 TB ext.hard disk so ill be fine.

I really like the chassis too!! and it comes with 4 pre installed fams so I think it will do a good job! gigabyte seems good to be and the parts are at a quite good price, plus there is a store near my place that sells most of them. Ill also check the motherboard, because this one is quite expensive, but I would like one with the wirelles card already installed, like this one I have selected.
Dude one question: the lg monitor I have comes only with hdmi. Will that be a problem when I hook the pc with the monitor first time? Thanks

December 12, 2012 5:29:41 PM

Here are the components I now think would be good for me, I also decided to go for the Geforce GTX660 instead of the 670. I realized that it will play any game right now and if in the future it gets a bit limited,I can always upgrade it.

CPU > INTEL Core Ivy Bridge 3570K- 3,4 GHz - Cache L3 6 MB - Socket LGA 1155 200€
Graphics card > Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX660 2GB DDR5 200€
Motherboard > Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH 270€
SSD > Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB 95€
HDD > Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003,1TB 70€
Tower > NZXT Crafted Series Phantom 410 115€
Memory > Patriot Viper 3 PV38G160C9K 40€
PSU > Corsair Enthusiast TX750 V2 105€
Optical drive > LG GH24NS90 19€
Windows 8 80€

Total : 1,194 euros / 1 556.976 U.S. dollars

Is it a bad configuration? I did check the motherboard socket and the intel 5 5370k and they are compatible, socket 1155, so I hope everything else will also be compatible and that the Power source of 750 watts will be enough.

najirion could you please tell me exactly which motherboard model you are referring too?
December 12, 2012 5:35:40 PM

oh and I will also be using the stock fan that comes with the intel i5. Even though I am buying the unlocked version with overclocking possibilities, I will still not overclock, and I think I will not be needing a different heat sink for at least some time. If I notice that the computer gets too hot, then I will buy a new heat sink.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2012 1:01:20 AM

if not OCing then stock fan will be fine :) 
December 13, 2012 4:47:25 AM

Alright peepz! It seems I am about to be finished with my gaming rig configuration!

I am pretty happy with choosing the i5 3570K,I think I wont be needing a new one for some time!
The Nvidia GTX660 is more than enough for me since I will only be using one monitor!
I didnt got crazy with the SSD and HDD because honestly I am quitte sure it will be enough!
Love the chassis, it looks good and has good functionality!
The 8GB DDR3 memory is perfect
The Power Supply is a 750W 80 plus so I guess it has enough power for expansions later and I will be saving some money on biils xD!
The optical drive is the best for the price according to the reviews, an lets be honest, it is more than enough!
And then of course, windows 8 needs to be bought also, so plus 80 euros on that!

I am still not sure about the motherboard though! According to najirion, I should maybe go for the Micro ATX, but I have heard it heats up quite a lot and since I am gonna be using the stock fan, maybe I should go with a regular size one, so I would really like to know which one is best in terms of compatibility and functionality!

Am I missing any parts?? Do I need anything else?

The configurations is up to 1194 euros, but I guess that if I will take a different motherboard, it might still go down a bit!

Again, thanks for all the feedback, the info here is invaluable for me!
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2012 6:47:33 AM

You shouldent have a problem with heat :) 

Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
December 13, 2012 7:26:43 AM

dsventimiglia said:
You shouldent have a problem with heat :) 

Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard




dsventimiglia,

Thanks, I think I will really keep the stock fan!

Could you advise a motherboard that already comes with wireless?
December 13, 2012 10:32:20 AM

Sorry but I have to disagree. Most experts conclude that stock coolers are not "efficient"
They do function and give cooling but in term of efficiency, they are just not that good and investing in a cooler is always highly recommended.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/heatsink-heatpipe-c...

I know that's an old article (2009) but remember that stock coolers never changed since then so same implications still apply.

Look, dsventimiglia suggestions is very contradicting. He is telling you not to buy a cooler since you don't overclock yet he is suggesting a WELL-KNOWN OVERCLOCKING MOTHERBOARD (Maximus V Gene) You would be wasting all the overclocking features the motherboard have...
Just look for reviews on that board, you will know it's built for overclocking. Not to mention it is one of the most expensive mATX motherboards available. You would be better off with ASUS P8Z77M-PRO or GA-Z77M-D3H. Look, it doesn't require you to get enthusiast-grade motherboard just because you're getting enthusiast-grade graphics card and processor. It's not like any entry motherboard wouldn't be able to handle them. Yes a ROG board will have better output but I tell you the different is almost negligible to any average user's experience. The initial gigabyte motherboard with wifi is already a good choice, it is par with ASUS P8Z77-V that has a wifi card as well without the excess power phases and overclocking features that Maximus V Gene have. Well unless you want a COOL and EDGY motherboard with a really beefy look then go for it.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2012 10:48:43 AM

ASUS P8Z77-M PRO has horible reviews...
GA-Z77M-D3H is bla
stick with Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH little $y at over 200$ just offering an alteritive with great reviews... if he want to try his hand at OC he knows he will need to upgraid his cooler (easy task)
December 13, 2012 11:08:22 AM

dsventimiglia said:
ASUS P8Z77-M PRO has horible reviews...
GA-Z77M-D3H is bla
stick with Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH little $y at over 200$ just offering an alteritive with great reviews... if he want to try his hand at OC he knows he will need to upgraid his cooler (easy task)


care to expound the "horrible reviews" you are saying? :) 
having "lower" performance (vs enthusiast-grade) hardware is not "horrible" I believe. I mean why would somebody expect an entry-level motherboard around $130 to have the same performance with an enthusiast-grade board like a ROG board which is 2-3x more expensive.. I haven't found bad reviews about those boards, EXPERT reviews that is.. I don't really trust consumer reports in newegg or in any other online shopping site. Users tend to be bias, careless, simply have no idea what they just did, and so many other unknown factors that will render comments unreliable. Not to mention there are so many things that can happen during shipping, send a buyer a dead hardware and he will likely rant over it without giving a chance to the hardware to perform. I hope you get my point :) 
So if you do find "credible and reliable" reviews from genuine hardware experts, I would also love to hear about it. : :) 
December 13, 2012 12:24:46 PM

Guys lets imagine I will go with the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/315059/gigabyte-ga-z77x-... 180 euros!
Will I be okay? It seems pretty good to me, I drop 80 euros so it comes cheaper and I dont have wireless! what do you think?

Plus, how should I do for wireless? do you guys have any suggestions?
December 13, 2012 12:30:45 PM

That is if you would be connecting to the internet via wifi. Take note.. CONNECTING. I don't know if you want use the PC as a reserve tethering device (share internet from PC to other devices) using the wifi card but I believe that is only possible using a mobile phone.

Yes I do like you choices, Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 should be enough for your needs without overkill and overshooting your budget. :)  Asrock Z77 Extreme4 on the other hand is the most popular motherboard today based on futuremark.

http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobo

Well, one doesn't get to be that popular if it performs badly IMHO :) 
December 13, 2012 12:39:24 PM

Najirion thanks! :)  what I mean with wifi( I am probably explaining wrong) is this:
I dont want to connect to the internet, catch a internet signal through a cable connected to my pc. I would like to do it like I do in my laptop. I hope I was clear now maybe I was using wrong terminologies =/

So now I come to conclusion about the motherboard xD!! One of these two!

How do I do with the internet signal? =/
December 13, 2012 12:46:05 PM

Your motherboard choice is good for me :)  I know it doesn't have compatibility issues with the other parts you already chosen so it's fine :) 

About internet connectivity:
There's wifi connection and ethernet connection (the one that uses cables)

Personally, I prefer ethernet connection because it is ensure and connection doesn't fluctuate or affected by other networking devices or thickness of the room walls. Check your router at home if it offers ethernet connection (most do have at least 2 ports) and wifi capabilities (include range). What's good about wifi is that if ever you move your PC to another location in the house, it wouldn't be a problem to re-route the cables and stuff.
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