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December 11, 2012 12:09:42 PM

I would like some help with a new build, although I have some questions as I am not going to attempt to put it together myself, so I am looking at prebuild, custom build at various websites listed below


Happroximate Purchase Date: After Christmas in January some time

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) £600-800

System Usage: Mostly gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes


Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:

I would like more a high end card that will last a while, I looked at cyberpower, overclockers, pcspecialist, cougarextreme, nova tech, an ebay seller called vibox and another called freshtech solutions.

All the main sites like cybepower, overclockers pcspecialist, were around 1000 for i5, cooler,
Intel® Core™ i5-3570K
Asetek CPU Water Cooling
MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 Chipset
8GB (2x4GB)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB
CoolerMaster Elite 500watt Gaming Power Supply
1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM
24X Double Layer Dual Format
24" TFT Active Matrix LCD/LED Display
Microsoft® Windows 8 (64-bit Edition)

I found these two on Freshtech solutions store on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDS3-I5-3570K-3-4Ghz-Gaming-...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDS3-I7-3770K-3-5Ghz-Gaming-...

Which is better and is this site trust worthy? they seem to have a good reputation
Location: United Kingdom

Parts Preferences: AMD or Intel I could yousome help as to the differences.

Overclocking: Maybe
You need a cpu cooler to overclock right? Something I could dowithout at first as I assume you could always buy one after

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe If it works out cheaper then one card with the same performance

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080,

Additional Comments:

Why Are You Upgrading: I want to play games like BF3 on high settings and my laptop doesnt cut it anymore


Thanks

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December 11, 2012 12:20:08 PM

I wouldn't trust either of those builds. They're using no-name GPUs and PSUs to shave costs, meaning that they are probably unreliable.

I want to comment on the CPU cooler. You do need a CPU cooler to overclock, yes - but you don't need water cooling. Get a nice Noctua air cooler or a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - these will let you do some mild O/Cing without breaking the bank.

If you drop the water cooling from the specs you listed, you'll be a lot closer to your budget. That build is not bad, though I would buy a Corsair TX-650W PSU or an XFX 650W. I would also switch the MOBO to an Asus, Asrock, or Gigabyte Z77 as they are more reliable brands.
December 11, 2012 3:55:27 PM

Thanks yea I am still questioning them as well. They do have has a 99.9 percent rating and is a top seller on ebay. It says the GPU is a palit jetstream 670gtx. As per the PSU I will send them an email.


So what does anyone else think. Any websites that I can customize it and they send it to me all put together.
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December 11, 2012 4:05:21 PM

Build your own or a have a local business build it for you for cheaper.
December 11, 2012 4:31:07 PM

FinneousPJ said:
Build your own or a have a local business build it for you for cheaper.

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December 11, 2012 4:46:47 PM

I would go with a 7950 to get more wiggle room for any bonus parts, (7950 performs about the same with the 670, they trade blows with each other in different games.)
December 11, 2012 7:00:29 PM

bdunk said:
Thanks yea I am still questioning them as well. They do have has a 99.9 percent rating and is a top seller on ebay. It says the GPU is a palit jetstream 670gtx. As per the PSU I will send them an email.


So what does anyone else think. Any websites that I can customize it and they send it to me all put together.


According to this the Palit Jetstream 670 is not a bad card compared to its peers, so I will chalk this one up to different brands on different sides of the pond. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...

However, the PSU still concerns me. A cheap power supply is at best a future bill and at worst dangerous to your system. I wouldn't buy a system without knowing what kind of PSU it had.

Also, as the others said, you can get similar or better bang for your buck (or pound) by building it yourself. All of those components are available for you to purchase, except maybe their crappy OEM PSU. You're paying a premium for them to assemble it for you and then hazarding it through shipping. You'd be better off ordering the parts individually and retaining the original warranties while building it yourself.

December 13, 2012 1:21:54 PM

Cheers thanks alot, Can anyone help with the differences between AMD Intel. Some AMD seem to have more processor speed like 4.0 > and with 8 core, does that mean everything? What are the best ones of both?
Same with graphics cards AMD or Nvidia?
December 13, 2012 3:03:36 PM

bdunk said:
Cheers thanks alot, Can anyone help with the differences between AMD Intel. Some AMD seem to have more processor speed like 4.0 > and with 8 core, does that mean everything? What are the best ones of both?
Same with graphics cards AMD or Nvidia?


Intel chips use less power and are maybe a bit more reliable, though both companies make good chips.

The best Intel chip for gaming is the Ivy Bridge i5 3570k. It's a good price, can be overclocked, and is pretty solid right out of the box. It's not as powerful as the i7, but it's much cheaper and gaming won't take advantage of the additional "cores" (threads) of the i7 anyway.

I don't know much about AMD chips so I won't answer that part.

As for GPUs, it's really personal preference. You'll have to refer to benchmarks to decide which is better in your price range (Toms publishes a monthly list of the best GPUs for the money based on their benchmarks). Currently the best cards for the money seem to be the 7870, or at a higher end the 7970. The 7970 trades blows with the GTX 670/680 and can be overclocked to be a real beast, and the price is less than a 680.
February 7, 2013 9:19:01 AM

bdunk said:
As per the PSU I will send them an email.


Did you hear back from them? What did they say regarding the PSU and possible upgrades?
February 7, 2013 9:20:12 AM

bdunk said:
As per the PSU I will send them an email.


Did you get a message back from them. What did they say about the PSU and potential upgrades?
February 7, 2013 9:20:58 AM

bdunk said:
As per the PSU I will send them an email.


Did you get a message back from them. What did they say about the PSU and potential upgrades?

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