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December 12, 2012 7:01:26 PM

Hello, I am planning on slowly upgrading my computer build, piece by piece. First, I am going to upgrade my graphics card. Then my processor next, but probably motherboard first. I am looking for some people's opinions and help.

Here is my current build:
GPU: Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB (I am planning on upgrading this to the MSI GTX 660 TI PE in a few weeks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T 3.7GHz (O/C)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ECS "horrible stuff" AM3 6GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Diablotek 600W (this power supply is a piece of junk, when I first got it there was a dent in the side of it, it worked fine, but made a grinding noise so I sent it in, got a new one back and it still makes the grinding noise, just not as bad. If I tilt my computer, the sound will sometimes go away, so I am not sure if it's something in the power supply itself, or if it's the power supply hitting something on my case. Either way, I need a new power supply :p )
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD: 500GB 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3GB/s or 6GB/s (I can't remember, though I think it was a Seagate)

So, as I said, I am planning on upgrading my graphics card first, most likely buying the MSI GTX 660 TI PE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) in a few weeks. Also, the main reason I am upgrading is for gaming. I plan to livestream and upload YouTube videos. Right now I can play Far Cry 3 on medium and get 45-60 fps, Planetside 2 I get around 40+ outside of big cities/hot spots, but when I am in a highly populated area, it feels like it drops into the 20's. I just want to be able to play any game out there pretty much, and record with good fps for videos.

Anyways, after I get my new graphics card I am thinking on upgrading my PSU or CPU/Motherboard. I have been told that my CPU should still last me a while, especially since I overclocked it +.7Ghz, but I am curious as to what you guys have to say. If I get a new CPU I will need to upgrade my motherboard. I am planning on sticking with the AMD processors, the FX series looks good, but I suppose I will have to here from others and do research on that. It looks like AM3 motherboards and CPU's are dying and FM2 and FX will be the new standard, so I am pretty much wondering if I should:

1) Upgrade both my CPU and motherboard to FX/FM2.
2) Upgrade both my CPU and motherboard to AM3+
3) Keep my current CPU and upgrade my motherboard to AM3+
4) Keep both my current CPU and motherboard

Then in regards to the PSU, not only is the brand cheap IMO, I feel like I should at least get 750W. I am not sure what the required wattage is on the MSI GTX 660 TI PE, but I hope my 600W can run it until I can upgrade to a higher one, if I do.

These forums have helped me out a lot just by reading other people's threads, and my hope is that you guys can help me out too. Thanks! :D 

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December 12, 2012 7:19:47 PM
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your lucky the power supply didnt blow up.

you are better off with a intel rig if you are doing a overhaul. it performs a lot better than a amd rig in games (skyrim shows that). just that intel doesnt let you overclock unless you buy a k chip

keep the ram, hard drive, and optical unless you want a new one
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sbqn

-550w from a good power supply is a lot better than a 750w from a cheapo power supply
-id get a 7950 instead of a 660ti. better value



December 12, 2012 7:27:14 PM

TheBigTroll said:
your lucky the power supply didnt blow up.

you are better off with a intel rig if you are doing a overhaul. it performs a lot better than a amd rig in games (skyrim shows that). just that intel doesnt let you overclock unless you buy a k chip

keep the ram, hard drive, and optical unless you want a new one
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sbqn

-550w from a good power supply is a lot better than a 750w from a cheapo power supply
-id get a 7950 instead of a 660ti. better value


Yeah, my PSU kind of scares me xD Is there a way I can check on it? The power consumption and everything?

Also, why do you recommend the 7950 over the 660 TI? After checking out benchmarks, the 660 TI seemed to score 5-10 more fps in games like Crysis 2 and BF3.

I really don't want to go Intel because of how expensive it is, what if I hold on to my CPU and motherboard for last, and upgrade my PSU after getting the new graphics card? That way, I can save up more money for Intel products later on.

--EDIT--
I just read a comment on YouTube, they said the Radeon HD 7950 is now the same price as the 660 TI, and with the new drivers it has a 10% boost, is that true?
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December 12, 2012 7:33:14 PM

both sides have 10% boosts. drivers are pretty equal.

the thing with the 7950 that is great is that it comes with far cry 3, hitman absolution, and sleeping dogs. also comes with 20% off warfighter

you can keep the CPU and the mobo for now but it is a partial bottleneck for the system
December 12, 2012 7:35:27 PM

TheBigTroll said:
both sides have 10% boosts. drivers are pretty equal.

the thing with the 7950 that is great is that it comes with far cry 3, hitman absolution, and sleeping dogs. also comes with 20% off warfighter

you can keep the CPU and the mobo for now but it is a partial bottleneck for the system


Okay, thanks! Do you have a recommended Radeon HD 7950 specifically?
December 12, 2012 7:35:46 PM

the one in the build
December 12, 2012 7:38:02 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the one in the build


Alright, thank you so much for the help, I really appreciate it! And wow, 3 games for free? O.o I need to order this ASAP!
December 12, 2012 7:39:18 PM

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December 12, 2012 7:39:50 PM

I'd leave the CPU unless you're willing to jump over to Intel. I don't think your AMD upgrade options at this moment are big enough of a jump.

I agree with thebigtroll - I'd look for a 7950 over a 660.

You've survived with that PSU, but personally, I wouldn't be comfortable having it for a few hours, let alone a few weeks. Running with one of those while it's potentially failing is like having stroke symptoms and deciding to mention it to your doctor during your next physical!
December 12, 2012 7:41:15 PM

also note. the card is 11.5 inches. make sure you have room
December 12, 2012 7:44:50 PM

DSzymborski said:
I'd leave the CPU unless you're willing to jump over to Intel. I don't think your AMD upgrade options at this moment are big enough of a jump.

I agree with thebigtroll - I'd look for a 7950 over a 660.

You've survived with that PSU, but personally, I wouldn't be comfortable having it for a few hours, let alone a few weeks. Running with one of those while it's potentially failing is like having stroke symptoms and deciding to mention it to your doctor during your next physical!


Hahah, I do not think it is failing, I think it is a simple vibration noise or something hitting the fans. Shouldn't blow up, you should have heard my old one. I would boot up my PC and it sounded like a chainsaw against a car's hood. I had to blow air into the PSU before booting for it to run without the noise, then the next morning it'd make the same sound and I would have to do the same thing xD It was very bad. I will try to upgrade my PSU as soon as possible though.
December 12, 2012 7:50:00 PM

TheBigTroll said:
also note. the card is 11.5 inches. make sure you have room


That's cutting it close, it looks like I will have .5 inch of room before going into the HDD trays (I took the out, so I could put the cables though the empty space there).
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