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December 13, 2012 12:20:27 AM

I'm looking for any advice on this system. I think it looks good but this is my first build...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/seAW

Any overkill in there or does it all seem reasonable? Do I need any adapters or should I be set?

Any and all advice would be appreciated.

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December 13, 2012 12:51:17 AM

For purely gaming you you REALLY do not need an i7. All it has over the i5 is hyperthreading and it actually decreases gaming performane by 2%.

If your build is for gaming check this out

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACFZ11-LP Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex Plus 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($151.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Full (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2126.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-12 21:52 EST-0500)

Scrapped money for the gtx 690. It is the fastest GPU on the market. The 3570k Overclocked is also the fastest gaming cpu on the market. So with this build you will essentially have the fastest gaming build you could possibly make. 1866 mhz ram really isn't needed lol.
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December 13, 2012 1:12:53 AM

tapick said:
I'm looking for any advice on this system. I think it looks good but this is my first build...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/seAW

Any overkill in there or does it all seem reasonable? Do I need any adapters or should I be set?

Any and all advice would be appreciated.


usage? if gaming is the most you're going to be doing, it is overkill as stated above.

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December 13, 2012 1:54:01 AM

This is all you need. Of course the case and OS can be changed according to your preference.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sfCY
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sfCY/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sfCY/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-M PRO Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1488.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-12 22:51 EST-0500)

edit: change the motherboard to an Asrock Z77 ATX
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77pro4
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December 13, 2012 8:47:28 AM

Do what nix put up... But if you $2000 to burn then grab the GTX 690 because you CANNOT get a better card than that ;D. It is really just two GTX 680's.
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December 13, 2012 4:20:59 PM

Thanks so much for the responses. I am using this computer mostly for gaming. I know "future proofing" is difficult at best, but i would like to avoid upgrading for as long as possible without breaking the bank. A couple questions:

1. It sounds like if I'm going to spend extra money on something it should be the GPU. What is the next most important component? I wouldn't want to get the 690 and have it limited by the CPU or motherboard or anything else.

2. I'm surprised that the i5 is being recommended above the i7, but that's why I'm here asking questions! The i5 will be just as good as the i7 for my needs?

3. Am I blowing it by getting windows 8? I was one of the unfortunate people who got burned by Vista and I don't want to go through another failed Microsoft OS. That said, I'm not opposed to trying something new...

Thanks in advance!
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December 13, 2012 4:23:25 PM

tapick said:
Thanks so much for the responses. I am using this computer mostly for gaming. I know "future proofing" is difficult at best, but i would like to avoid upgrading for as long as possible without breaking the bank. A couple questions:

1. It sounds like if I'm going to spend extra money on something it should be the GPU. What is the next most important component? I wouldn't want to get the 690 and have it limited by the CPU or motherboard or anything else.

2. I'm surprised that the i5 is being recommended above the i7, but that's why I'm here asking questions! The i5 will be just as good as the i7 for my needs?

3. Am I blowing it by getting windows 8? I was one of the unfortunate people who got burned by Vista and I don't want to go through another failed Microsoft OS. That said, I'm not opposed to trying something new...

Thanks in advance!

Only difference between i5 and i7 is hyperthreading. And it doesn't help at all in games. Sometimes it even drops fps by a few frames. Ohh, and you get i7 bragging rights lol. id get windows 7 if i were you. 8 isn't bad but windows 7 is awsome ;) .
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December 13, 2012 4:24:30 PM

One last thing... If you do want to spend $2000 then GTX 690 plus i5 3570k is currently the best you can possibly do in gaming.
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December 13, 2012 4:30:36 PM

tapick said:
Thanks so much for the responses. I am using this computer mostly for gaming. I know "future proofing" is difficult at best, but i would like to avoid upgrading for as long as possible without breaking the bank. A couple questions:

1. It sounds like if I'm going to spend extra money on something it should be the GPU. What is the next most important component? I wouldn't want to get the 690 and have it limited by the CPU or motherboard or anything else.

2. I'm surprised that the i5 is being recommended above the i7, but that's why I'm here asking questions! The i5 will be just as good as the i7 for my needs?

3. Am I blowing it by getting windows 8? I was one of the unfortunate people who got burned by Vista and I don't want to go through another failed Microsoft OS. That said, I'm not opposed to trying something new...

Thanks in advance!


The 7970 can take anything you throw at it..the only difference between an i5 and i7 is hyper threading which is not utilized by games..there is no problem in getting win8..its just that a few games have compatibility issues on win8..
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December 13, 2012 5:26:39 PM

Thanks for all the info! Ok last question:

I want to overclock the GPU and CPU. I've never done it before, am I crazy for trying? Assuming I'm not crazy, does my desire to overclock my system change your recommendation for my build? For example, my motherboard and my cooling set up?

Thanks again!
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December 13, 2012 6:05:26 PM

Thats the reason to get the Z77 motherboard and 3570K is so you can tae advantage of the unlocked multiplier. And lol... if you go with the GTX 690 you REALLY do not need to overclock it. It will probably give you atleast 120fps in any game you have at any setting. You are literally going to be getting THE highest performance gaming pc you can possbly get at this moment in time. (unless you sli gtx 690... but lets be real LOL).
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December 13, 2012 6:07:45 PM

tapick said:
Thanks for all the info! Ok last question:

I want to overclock the GPU and CPU. I've never done it before, am I crazy for trying? Assuming I'm not crazy, does my desire to overclock my system change your recommendation for my build? For example, my motherboard and my cooling set up?

Thanks again!


You can definitely overclock with this build..though you would be crazy to try it before you know everything about it..also intel provides an overclocking insurance so that you can overclock without fear.
This build will run games pretty well right out of the box..so you will have plenty of time to learn..i can't tell you more because my knowledge of overclocking is close to nil.

Have fun with the build.
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December 13, 2012 6:46:20 PM

Thanks Nix and Blake for answering my questions. Very useful info

Do either of you or anyone else have a link(s) to something akin to "overclocking for dummies"?

Thanks again, I really appreciate the help
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December 14, 2012 2:45:06 AM

So I can't decide on my GPU and monitor. I want to make sure that the GPU isn't wasted by a crappy monitor.

For the GPU, I'd like to be able to max out games like Civ 5, Skyrim, Assassins Creed 3, Far Cry 3, and ideally the next generation of these games or similar ones.

I'm deciding between GTX 670, 680, or 690. Not sure on single vs double, but like I said, I just want to buy something that's going to make today's games look awesome. I don't think I can justify the pricetag on the 690, unless someone has a very compelling argument... so, a single 680? 670s in sli? I'm planning on overclocking in either case.

As for the monitor, I'm up for suggestions. Seems like the Dell UltraSharps are pretty popular and pricey, but look like their specs are impressive. Anything else comparable? I'm looking for my new GPU to shine on this monitor.

Thanks in advance!
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December 14, 2012 1:35:50 PM

Any recs for the GPU or monitors?
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December 14, 2012 1:48:26 PM

tapick said:
Any recs for the GPU or monitors?

get the 670..680 is not worth the extra cost..
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December 14, 2012 1:48:57 PM

Honestly, you REALLY don't need to get a GTX 690 lol.... All it is is two GTX 680's. So what you should is buy a single GTX 680 and you will max out games for a while and then add another GTX 680 and you will have same performance as the 690. And by a while i mean probably 4 years or so. Maybe even longer.
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December 14, 2012 1:52:12 PM

You should also use the extra money from getting the 680 instead of the 690 and get a really nice/big monitor.
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December 14, 2012 3:07:50 PM

What are some examples of monitors that would work well with the 680? I'd rather have higher quality than bigger size (that's what she said? Lol)
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December 14, 2012 5:45:37 PM

Thanks for the info.

Quick question: I'm confused as to why multiple manufacturers all make the GTX 680? I see GTX 680s for sale by EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc. How do they differ from each other or are they all basically the same?
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December 14, 2012 6:33:57 PM

tapick said:
Thanks for the info.

Quick question: I'm confused as to why multiple manufacturers all make the GTX 680? I see GTX 680s for sale by EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc. How do they differ from each other or are they all basically the same?


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/368004-33-noob-questi...

edit: the 7970 i suggested comes with a better PCB and also better cooling..good for overclocking.
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December 15, 2012 11:50:59 AM

Yeah but some games seem to more optimized for nVidia. And im pretty sure they have less driver issues to.
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December 15, 2012 1:49:45 PM

blake1243 said:
Yeah but some games seem to more optimized for nVidia. And im pretty sure they have less driver issues to.


Yeah..thats true..BF3 is an example for a recent game that favors an Nvidia..
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December 30, 2012 11:24:27 PM

Best answer selected by tapick.
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