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I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.

I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.

Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera corrosion
free and health?

Thank you.

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Move to Arizona? ;-)

Guy

John Keiser wrote:
> I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
>
> I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>
> Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
> corrosion free and health?
>
> Thank you.

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In article <mEDge.1695$qT1.827@trnddc06>,
"John Keiser" <john.keiser2@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
> I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
> best methods to keep this camera corrosion
> free and health?

You could use desiccant, aka silica gel. This is the stuff that is in those
little bags found inside packaged electronics.

I checked the following site briefly (Google found it - and a "zillion"
others). This place probably isn't where you need to purchase the SMALL
quantity you'd need, but it's a place to start.

http://www.drierite.com/default.cf [...] page16.cfm

Congratulations and good luck!

:)
JR

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John Keiser wrote:
> I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
>
> I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>
> Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera corrosion
> free and health?
>
> Thank you.
>

You could try moving to Kona. It isn't quite a humid there as other
places in the islands. ;-)

If that isn't practical you could try and find a dehumidifier cabinet.
I there is a company I heard of in Singapore, a hotter and more humid
place, that makes them.

http://www.digihub.com.sg/product. [...] te_Level=1

ALV

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"John Keiser" <john.keiser2@verizon.net> writes:
> I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
>
> I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>
> Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera corrosion
> free and health?

Air conditioning should be all ya need. Or, don't worry about it, and
in the event there's any corrosion to speak of, it's a digital camera
and you'll welcome the excuse ot upgrade by the time it happens. 8-)

In short, I wouldn't worry about it overmuch.


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> I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>
> Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera corrosion
> free and health?

You can buy some of those little desiccant bags and keep them in your kit
bag - you know the ones that come in shipping and have "do not eat" printed
on them..

I always envision Homer Simpson drooling.. "mmmmm.. desiccant.."

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> Air conditioning should be all ya need. Or, don't worry about it, and
> in the event there's any corrosion to speak of, it's a digital camera
> and you'll welcome the excuse ot upgrade by the time it happens. 8-)

On that note - be CAREFUL about taking the camera outside from inside. Best
to insulate the camera, some say in an air-tight plastic baggy, until it
assumes outside temperature. Else you could end up with condensation in the
lens, other parts of the camera, leading to fungus and sadness.

Don't store the camera by hanging it from the shoulder strap in the shower.
:)

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In article <3eghdnF2ojajU1@individual.net>,
Bigguy <gtittley@nospam.hotmail.nospam.com> wrote:


>Move to Arizona? ;-)

Dust.


James,
Tucson AZ

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In article <jim.redelfs-F62592.06335012052005@news.central.cox.net>,
Jim Redelfs <jim.redelfs@redelfs.com> wrote:

>You could use desiccant, aka silica gel. This is the stuff that is in those
>little bags found inside packaged electronics.

That everyone throws away, even though they should keep them.

Instead of saying "DO NOT EAT", they could suggest that the customer
keeps them and uses them, or even explain what they are for.

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Jim Redelfs wrote:

> You could use desiccant, aka silica gel. This is the stuff that is
> in those little bags found inside packaged electronics.

Yes, get the desiccant packages that have a moisture indicator on them.
Also, the ones in the aluminum case will make reactivation easier.

I store all my gear in Pelican watertight cases



Rita

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Andrew Venor wrote:
> John Keiser wrote:
> > I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
> >
> > I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
> >
> > Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
corrosion
> > free and health?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
> You could try moving to Kona. It isn't quite a humid there as other
> places in the islands. ;-)
>
> If that isn't practical you could try and find a dehumidifier
cabinet.
> I there is a company I heard of in Singapore, a hotter and more humid

> place, that makes them.
>
>
http://www.digihub.com.sg/product. [...] te_Level=1
>
> ALV


We live in Kona and everything rusts, FAST. It is not just the
humidity but also the salt spray and I believe to some extent the
volcano (sulfuric acid).

Having said all that we own a 20D and just store it out in the open.

The humidity here runs between 65 and 75%, much lower then in say
Florida.

Scott

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Todd H. wrote:
> "John Keiser" <john.keiser2@verizon.net> writes:
> > I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
> >
> > I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
> >
> > Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
corrosion
> > free and health?
>
> Air conditioning should be all ya need. Or, don't worry about it,
and
> in the event there's any corrosion to speak of, it's a digital camera
> and you'll welcome the excuse ot upgrade by the time it happens. 8-)

>
Most people don't use air conditioning here, that is what the trade
winds are for. Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW

Scott

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Mr. Mark wrote:
> > Air conditioning should be all ya need. Or, don't worry about it,
and
> > in the event there's any corrosion to speak of, it's a digital
camera
> > and you'll welcome the excuse ot upgrade by the time it happens.
8-)
>
> On that note - be CAREFUL about taking the camera outside from
inside. Best
> to insulate the camera, some say in an air-tight plastic baggy, until
it
> assumes outside temperature. Else you could end up with condensation
in the
> lens, other parts of the camera, leading to fungus and sadness.
>

Here again most people keep the inside temperature the same as the
outside in Hawaii.

Scott

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"Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> writes:
> Todd H. wrote:
> > "John Keiser" <john.keiser2@verizon.net> writes:
> > > I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
> > >
> > > I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
> > >
> > > Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
> corrosion
> > > free and health?
> >
> > Air conditioning should be all ya need. Or, don't worry about it,
> > and in the event there's any corrosion to speak of, it's a digital
> > camera and you'll welcome the excuse ot upgrade by the time it
> > happens. 8-)
>
> Most people don't use air conditioning here, that is what the trade
> winds are for. Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW

No worries then, Your camera should be fine. Keep it away from salt
and away from teh beach if possible, and it'll last longer than ya
want it to. :-)

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In article <1115913843.034023.65600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Scott W <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote:

>We live in Kona and everything rusts, FAST.

It's pretty hard to muster sympathy for people who live in paradise :-)
Your toys don't last as long... That's just sad.

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> Here again most people keep the inside temperature the same as the
> outside in Hawaii.

Really? If we did that in Florida we would mostly die from drowning in
sweat.

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"Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW

That must be for the privilege of not being connected to any other grids.
Maybe you guys should figure a way to harness all that volcano energy. :)

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Mr. Mark wrote:

> "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW
>
>
> That must be for the privilege of not being connected to any other grids.
> Maybe you guys should figure a way to harness all that volcano energy. :)

They do in Iceland (Geothermal). Hydro+GeoTherm (renewables) total 70%
of Iceland's energy needs. However, as 72% of the energy use is heating
buildings/homes, the heat can be used almost directly (via heat
exchangers) and not require very expensive capital installations.
Iceland has hundreds of hot springs making this easy (87% of
homes/buildings heat is GeoT). No need to heat much in Hawaii.
[more at http://jardhitafelag.is/papers/PDF [...] per123.pdf
they even melt the snow on the streets with hot water pipes... not a
Hawaii problem!]

Hawaii (where 90% of energy is from imported oil) has experimented with
ammonia driven turbines which take advantage of the difference in
temperature between surface and deep water.

http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/ert/ot [...] chor349152

Cheers,
Alan



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> [more at http://jardhitafelag.is/papers/PDF [...] per123.pdf
> they even melt the snow on the streets with hot water pipes... not a
> Hawaii problem!]

Cool!

> No need to heat much in Hawaii.

Well, if they could super-heat some water they could use the high pressure
steam to turn a turbine and from there the posibilities are endless. :)

> Hawaii (where 90% of energy is from imported oil) has experimented with
> ammonia driven turbines which take advantage of the difference in
> temperature between surface and deep water.
>
> http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/ert/ot [...] chor349152

Wow. Never heard of this before. Interesting.


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In article <HkMge.27265$IO.10744@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
Mr. Mark <e.cartman@southpark.com> wrote:

>Really? If we did that in Florida we would mostly die from drowning in
>sweat.

Floridians delude themselves into the belief that they live in
paradise. Hawaiians don't need such persuasion.

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"Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Andrew Venor wrote:
>> John Keiser wrote:
>> > I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
>> >
>> > I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>> >
>> > Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
> corrosion
>> > free and health?
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>>
>> You could try moving to Kona. It isn't quite a humid there as other
>> places in the islands. ;-)
>>
>> If that isn't practical you could try and find a dehumidifier
> cabinet.
>> I there is a company I heard of in Singapore, a hotter and more humid
>
>> place, that makes them.
>>
>>
> http://www.digihub.com.sg/product. [...] te_Level=1
>>
>> ALV
>
>
> We live in Kona and everything rusts, FAST. It is not just the
> humidity but also the salt spray and I believe to some extent the
> volcano (sulfuric acid).
>
> Having said all that we own a 20D and just store it out in the open.
>
> The humidity here runs between 65 and 75%, much lower then in say
> Florida.
>
> Scott
>
In SoCal, we start bitching when the humidity tops 40%. And when my
Floridian mother-in-law visits, she complains about it being so dry...

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"james" <fishbowl@conservatory.com> wrote in message
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> In article <HkMge.27265$IO.10744@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> Mr. Mark <e.cartman@southpark.com> wrote:
>
>>Really? If we did that in Florida we would mostly die from drowning in
>>sweat.
>
> Floridians delude themselves into the belief that they live in
> paradise. Hawaiians don't need such persuasion.

Nor do Californians, we just live in Paradise Jr. California has long had
an envy thing for Hawaii, all the things here named with Hawaiian names, or
ones that sound like it...

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Skip M wrote:
> "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1115913843.034023.65600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Andrew Venor wrote:
>>
>>>John Keiser wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm in Hawaii - hot, humid.
>>>>
>>>>I just acquired a lovely EOS 20D.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone care to comment on the best methods to keep this camera
>>
>>corrosion
>>
>>>>free and health?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You could try moving to Kona. It isn't quite a humid there as other
>>>places in the islands. ;-)
>>>
>>>If that isn't practical you could try and find a dehumidifier
>>
>>cabinet.
>>
>>>I there is a company I heard of in Singapore, a hotter and more humid
>>
>>>place, that makes them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>http://www.digihub.com.sg/product.asp?Cate_ID=1&Parent_ID=0&Cate_Level=1
>>
>>>ALV
>>
>>
>>We live in Kona and everything rusts, FAST. It is not just the
>>humidity but also the salt spray and I believe to some extent the
>>volcano (sulfuric acid).
>>
>>Having said all that we own a 20D and just store it out in the open.
>>
>>The humidity here runs between 65 and 75%, much lower then in say
>>Florida.
>>
>>Scott
>>
>
> In SoCal, we start bitching when the humidity tops 40%. And when my
> Floridian mother-in-law visits, she complains about it being so dry...
>

I noticed that cars on the other islands would rust out pretty fast too
from the salt spray. Though the last time I was in Kona the wind was
blowing the volcanic vapors away from the town.

Having lived in both Florida and California I can definitely say that I
really hated the humidity in Orange County FL. Living in barracks
without air conditioning got old quick. Though the first few minutes
right after a big thunderstorm in Orlando before the humidity rose back
up would feel pretty refreshing.

ALV

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Alan Browne wrote:
> Mr. Mark wrote:
>
> > "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >>Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW
> >
> >
> > That must be for the privilege of not being connected to any other
grids.
> > Maybe you guys should figure a way to harness all that volcano
energy. :)
>
> They do in Iceland (Geothermal). Hydro+GeoTherm (renewables) total
70%
> of Iceland's energy needs. However, as 72% of the energy use is
heating
> buildings/homes, the heat can be used almost directly (via heat
> exchangers) and not require very expensive capital installations.
> Iceland has hundreds of hot springs making this easy (87% of
> homes/buildings heat is GeoT). No need to heat much in Hawaii.
> [more at
http://jardhitafelag.is/papers/PDF [...] per123.pdf
> they even melt the snow on the streets with hot water pipes... not a
> Hawaii problem!]
>
> Hawaii (where 90% of energy is from imported oil) has experimented
with
> ammonia driven turbines which take advantage of the difference in
> temperature between surface and deep water.
>

The heat engine thing never really worked out, it was tried about 5
miles from here the beach there is still known as OTEC. The facility
is still in operation however but they mainly use the cold deep water
to fill huge tanks that they grow cold water sea food in, I am not sure
what all they grow but I know there are lobsters there.

We do have a number of windmills and most people use solar heat for
there hot water. Geothermal has been used a bit for such things as
drying fruit.

The good news is that you don't tend to use much energy here, except
for houses that are high in elevation houses here don't have heat and
very few have air conditioning.

Scott

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Mr. Mark wrote:

> Wow. Never heard of this before. Interesting.

If it interests you, then further web searches should interest you too.
It turns out that the three largest geothermal exploiters (top down
are the US, China and Iceland. There are 80+ countries that generate
power from geo-t sources (or use the heat directly).

Cheers,
Alan.


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Alan Browne wrote:
> Mr. Mark wrote:
>
> > "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >>Note our power cost about $0.25/KHW
> >
> >
> > That must be for the privilege of not being connected to any other
grids.
> > Maybe you guys should figure a way to harness all that volcano
energy. :)
>
> They do in Iceland (Geothermal). Hydro+GeoTherm (renewables) total
70%
> of Iceland's energy needs. However, as 72% of the energy use is
heating
> buildings/homes, the heat can be used almost directly (via heat
> exchangers) and not require very expensive capital installations.

The heat is usually not transferred via heat exchangers, the hot
groundwater goes via pipes from the drilling area (the hot springs are
not used)
The whole system needs considerable infrastructure (the pipes can be
tens of kilometers in length.)

> Iceland has hundreds of hot springs making this easy (87% of
> homes/buildings heat is GeoT). No need to heat much in Hawaii.
> [more at
http://jardhitafelag.is/papers/PDF [...] per123.pdf
> they even melt the snow on the streets with hot water pipes... not a
> Hawaii problem!]
>
> Hawaii (where 90% of energy is from imported oil) has experimented
with
> ammonia driven turbines which take advantage of the difference in
> temperature between surface and deep water.
>
> http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/ert/ot [...] chor349152
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
>
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sigvaldi wrote:

>
>>buildings/homes, the heat can be used almost directly (via heat
>>exchangers) and not require very expensive capital installations.
>
>
> The heat is usually not transferred via heat exchangers, the hot
> groundwater goes via pipes from the drilling area (the hot springs are
> not used)
> The whole system needs considerable infrastructure (the pipes can be
> tens of kilometers in length.)

It depends on the "quality" of the heat source. Some springs have "hot"
water that can be used directly for things like heating pools and
building. Other drilled sources have very high temperatures suitable
for driving turbines after flashing in a low pressure system.

See the paper I linked to.

Cheers,
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"james" <fishbowl@conservatory.com> wrote in message
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> In article <HkMge.27265$IO.10744@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> Mr. Mark <e.cartman@southpark.com> wrote:
>
> >Really? If we did that in Florida we would mostly die from drowning in
> >sweat.
>
> Floridians delude themselves into the belief that they live in
> paradise. Hawaiians don't need such persuasion.

Yeah, at least Hawaii has mountains.

Greg

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