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Anonymous
April 9, 2004 12:20:20 AM

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What is the maximum time per laser disc side. YA 60 minutes hahahaha.
I mean the maximum. 60 minutes and 10 seconds? 5 seconds
30 seconds?

I could have sworn I had a disc that was 62 minutes. Of course I cant
remember which one from HK I am sure.

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Anonymous
April 9, 2004 12:42:38 AM

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According to Douglas Pratt's Laser Video Disc Companion, it's 60:12, but
some people have said they have seen longer times.

Todd
Anonymous
April 9, 2004 7:22:02 AM

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asia82@webtv.net (Todd Spangler) wrote in message news:<16755-4075FF8E-261@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net>...
> According to Douglas Pratt's Laser Video Disc Companion, it's 60:12, but
> some people have said they have seen longer times.
>
> Todd

This subject has been the object of thread:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&thre....*%26meta%3Dgroup%253Dalt.video.laserdisc.*>

So far the record seems to be held by Rounders PILF-2797 (Dolby
Digital) with 60 minutes 38 seconds on side A and 60 minutes 45
seconds on side B.

Nicolas
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April 9, 2004 11:16:30 AM

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john33907@comcast.net wrote in message news:<buqb70htlcga1her0imoq1omsm8piieg83@4ax.com>...
> What is the maximum time per laser disc side. YA 60 minutes hahahaha.
> I mean the maximum. 60 minutes and 10 seconds? 5 seconds
> 30 seconds?
>
> I could have sworn I had a disc that was 62 minutes. Of course I cant
> remember which one from HK I am sure.

PAL CLV 64 minutes, CAV 36 minutes

NTSC CLV 60 minutes, CAV 30 minutes

Don't know the exact seconds through.

David
Anonymous
April 9, 2004 10:08:22 PM

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> PAL CLV 64 minutes, CAV 36 minutes
>
> NTSC CLV 60 minutes, CAV 30 minutes

Actually, PAL CLV could be up to 74 minutes!

I have a PAL laserdisc that lasts 131 minutes,
and stay all in two sides... and not, I'm not joking!
The title is "Eldorado" and if I well remember, a
side is longer than 66 minutes...

Andrea
April 9, 2004 10:08:23 PM

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"Laserdisc" <laserdisc_NIENTE_SPAM@tiscali.it> wrote in message news:<c56htb$epk$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it>...
> > PAL CLV 64 minutes, CAV 36 minutes
> >
> > NTSC CLV 60 minutes, CAV 30 minutes
>
> Actually, PAL CLV could be up to 74 minutes!
>
> I have a PAL laserdisc that lasts 131 minutes,
> and stay all in two sides... and not, I'm not joking!
> The title is "Eldorado" and if I well remember, a
> side is longer than 66 minutes...
>
> Andrea

Really?

I thought the maximum was 64 per side?

David
Anonymous
April 11, 2004 1:52:41 AM

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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:20:20 -0400, john33907@comcast.net wrote:

>What is the maximum time per laser disc side. YA 60 minutes hahahaha.
>I mean the maximum. 60 minutes and 10 seconds? 5 seconds
> 30 seconds?
>
>I could have sworn I had a disc that was 62 minutes. Of course I cant
>remember which one from HK I am sure.

Pioneer had 5 different encoding formats for Extended Play LaserDiscs.

For sides less than 55 minutes in length, they used CAA55. It holds
just over 55 minutes per side. CAA60 is used for sides over 55
minutes and under 60:05. Sides over 60:05 used CAA65, which would
squeeze a full 65 minutes of video out. There are only a handful of
discs where this was used. The Japanese Dolby Digital edtion of
"Blade", one of the sides of "Steven King's The Stand", and Side 1 of
"Robocop2 (P&S). There are others, but the specifics do not come to
mind.

The other two were CAA70, where they could fit 70 minutes onto a
single side. I am now aware of any titles that were ever released
with this format. CAA45 was used once to my knowledge.

WEA Manufacturing did something odd with their extended play sides
which would cause them to fill out the bulk of the side regardless of
the running time. I don't know if it was Pioneer's CAA45 or what, but
even the short sides fill the entire disc.

The LONGEST CLV side I've ever personally seen is the Japanese
"Blade".


Blaine
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April 11, 2004 11:49:08 AM

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Blaine Young <blam@oz.net> wrote in message news:<81jh70lio9bm2jvmdv10gjqpeosnbb2et0@4ax.com>...
> On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:20:20 -0400, john33907@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >What is the maximum time per laser disc side. YA 60 minutes hahahaha.
> >I mean the maximum. 60 minutes and 10 seconds? 5 seconds
> > 30 seconds?
> >
> >I could have sworn I had a disc that was 62 minutes. Of course I cant
> >remember which one from HK I am sure.
>
> Pioneer had 5 different encoding formats for Extended Play LaserDiscs.
>
> For sides less than 55 minutes in length, they used CAA55. It holds
> just over 55 minutes per side. CAA60 is used for sides over 55
> minutes and under 60:05. Sides over 60:05 used CAA65, which would
> squeeze a full 65 minutes of video out. There are only a handful of
> discs where this was used. The Japanese Dolby Digital edtion of
> "Blade", one of the sides of "Steven King's The Stand", and Side 1 of
> "Robocop2 (P&S). There are others, but the specifics do not come to
> mind.
>
> The other two were CAA70, where they could fit 70 minutes onto a
> single side. I am now aware of any titles that were ever released
> with this format. CAA45 was used once to my knowledge.
>
> WEA Manufacturing did something odd with their extended play sides
> which would cause them to fill out the bulk of the side regardless of
> the running time. I don't know if it was Pioneer's CAA45 or what, but
> even the short sides fill the entire disc.
>
> The LONGEST CLV side I've ever personally seen is the Japanese
> "Blade".
>
>
> Blaine
> blam1@oz.net
> http://www.blamld.com

If they can fit 65 minutes on a disc using CAA65 then how come Star
Trek The Cage was split over 2 sides?

The european release had The Cage on just one side.

Can some players not read CAA65 and CAA70?

David
Anonymous
April 17, 2004 2:31:46 AM

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On 11 Apr 2004 07:49:08 -0700, robbins1940@aol.com (David) wrote:

>Blaine Young <blam@oz.net> wrote in message news:<81jh70lio9bm2jvmdv10gjqpeosnbb2et0@4ax.com>...
>> On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:20:20 -0400, john33907@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> >What is the maximum time per laser disc side. YA 60 minutes hahahaha.
>> >I mean the maximum. 60 minutes and 10 seconds? 5 seconds
>> > 30 seconds?
>> >
>> >I could have sworn I had a disc that was 62 minutes. Of course I cant
>> >remember which one from HK I am sure.
>>
>> Pioneer had 5 different encoding formats for Extended Play LaserDiscs.
>>
>> For sides less than 55 minutes in length, they used CAA55. It holds
>> just over 55 minutes per side. CAA60 is used for sides over 55
>> minutes and under 60:05. Sides over 60:05 used CAA65, which would
>> squeeze a full 65 minutes of video out. There are only a handful of
>> discs where this was used. The Japanese Dolby Digital edtion of
>> "Blade", one of the sides of "Steven King's The Stand", and Side 1 of
>> "Robocop2 (P&S). There are others, but the specifics do not come to
>> mind.
>>
>> The other two were CAA70, where they could fit 70 minutes onto a
>> single side. I am now aware of any titles that were ever released
>> with this format. CAA45 was used once to my knowledge.
>>
>> WEA Manufacturing did something odd with their extended play sides
>> which would cause them to fill out the bulk of the side regardless of
>> the running time. I don't know if it was Pioneer's CAA45 or what, but
>> even the short sides fill the entire disc.
>>
>> The LONGEST CLV side I've ever personally seen is the Japanese
>> "Blade".
>>
>>
>> Blaine
>> blam1@oz.net
>> http://www.blamld.com
>
>If they can fit 65 minutes on a disc using CAA65 then how come Star
>Trek The Cage was split over 2 sides?
>
>The european release had The Cage on just one side.
>
>Can some players not read CAA65 and CAA70?
>
>David

CAA65 can be read by nearly all players. I suspect the only ones that
would have a real problem were the very first units. They used
mechanics to determine end of side rather than reading signals off the
disc. I suspect CAA70 was the same, but since there are no known
CAA70 sides, I've got no real data.

I really couldn't say why Pioneer elected to stay with CAA55 on "The
Cage." The European version was done on one side because of the
increased playback time that PAL affords due to the reduced video
frame rate.

It's also possible that Pioneer had not yet perfected CAA65. The "All
Color" version of "The Cage" came out in 1991. The iroginal edition
of "The Cage" that came out in 1986 included an introduction and
closing by Gene Roddenberry that increased the running time to 74
minutes.. The first CAA65 disc that I'm aware of ("The Stand") wasn't
until 1994.


Blaine
blam1@oz.net
http://www.blamld.com
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