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October 25, 2012 1:04:42 AM

Hi guys, need some advice. I have a Dell XPS8300 with a 460 watt power supply so my choices are limited. I currently have a GTX 550 Ti with an Intel i5 Sandy Bridge and get good performance at 1080p, but want a bit more performance. I understand the GTX 650Ti is faster and I am interested in it. My question is, will it be worth upgrading to it and also, will the fact my motherboard is not PCI 3.0 make any performance a non factor? I have the 650Ti in my cart at New Egg and just need some advice before submitting the order. Thank you!

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October 25, 2012 2:05:23 AM

Not trying to be impatient, but I'm kind of hovering over "submit order" so some info and opinions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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October 25, 2012 2:33:17 AM

Uhm, here's the question. Will it fit in your case? You might have to go with a low-profile card.

PCI 2 vs 3 won't make a difference with current cards.

However, I HIGHLY recommend you go with a Radeon. Recent price cuts and new blazing fast drivers have made them by far the budget option. (And I'm not just being a fanboy - I'm using a GTX670.)
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October 25, 2012 2:38:58 AM

You're good on the GTX 650 ti, although I'm not sure it's worth spending $150 if you already have a GTX 550 ti.

When people upgrade they usually skip a generation, i.e. wait for the GTX 750 ti, or they step up to the next level, i.e. get the GTX 660.

The 650 ti will give you about a 40% improvement though, so its up to you if you want to buy it. Just make sure you buy the 1GB version, the 2GB is useless.
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October 25, 2012 2:40:21 AM

I'd get an HD 7850. Should fit in your case and should be fine with a 460W PSU.
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October 25, 2012 2:58:27 AM

DarkSable said:
Uhm, here's the question. Will it fit in your case? You might have to go with a low-profile card.

PCI 2 vs 3 won't make a difference with current cards.

However, I HIGHLY recommend you go with a Radeon. Recent price cuts and new blazing fast drivers have made them by far the budget option. (And I'm not just being a fanboy - I'm using a GTX670.)


It is physically smaller than the 550.....is it not?
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October 25, 2012 3:04:24 AM

Ironslice said:
You're good on the GTX 650 ti, although I'm not sure it's worth spending $150 if you already have a GTX 550 ti.

When people upgrade they usually skip a generation, i.e. wait for the GTX 750 ti, or they step up to the next level, i.e. get the GTX 660.

The 650 ti will give you about a 40% improvement though, so its up to you if you want to buy it. Just make sure you buy the 1GB version, the 2GB is useless.


I looked at the 660, but I think I'd be pushing it with my power supply unfortunately. :( 
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October 25, 2012 3:05:53 AM

lycros said:
I'd get an HD 7850. Should fit in your case and should be fine with a 460W PSU.


I thought about that also but I'm 40 watts under recommended AMD requirements.
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October 25, 2012 3:07:14 AM

don't spend money on something that 'might' give you 4 or 5 more fps than a card you already have.
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October 25, 2012 3:25:38 AM

hello, Jblank

i think that if ur mobo doesnt support pci 3.0, it wont work as far as i know. i asked a friend of mine who knows his stuff on computers, and said that if a GPU works on pci 3.0, and ur mobo has 2.0, ull have to change the mobo to make the GPU work. im not sure, im just saying what i was told. (if im wrong, please correct me, guys.)

on the GPU part, maybe u should get a geforce gtx 660 :)  if u have the money... if not, i think an amd radeon which i believe are cheaper, should work great also :) 

one last thing, that 460W PSU is a joke if ur into playing games and adding components to ur PC in general. id change it to something more powerful. The minimal power supply rating for a GTX 660 is 450W i think.. to be on the safe side, and to be sure the pc gets enough power to power everything well (GPU included), id get a more powerful PSU.

my computer came with a 450W PSU when i bought it, and now that i began adding accesories to it, like a geforce gtx 550 ti (cuz my mobo supports PCI 2.0 and it was the best i could buy at the moment) and auxiliary fans with LEDs, it began to restart randomly while gaming and the psu was getting hot (not normal). i changed it for a Coolermaster PSU rated at 600W and it works just fine with no PSU getting hot :p 

hope that helps :p 
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October 25, 2012 3:30:53 AM

I'd go with 660ti, a bit more patience if you can. :D 
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October 25, 2012 3:37:20 AM

jblank said:
I looked at the 660, but I think I'd be pushing it with my power supply unfortunately. :( 

a 660 will use just 5-11 more watts than a 550ti, a 7850 will use 20 watts less and a 7870 will use just a few less.
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October 25, 2012 3:42:39 AM

lycros said:
I'd get an HD 7850. Should fit in your case and should be fine with a 460W PSU.

no problem
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October 25, 2012 3:44:00 AM

the thing about the card not fitting on a 2.0 motherboard........ that guy needs a new friend because his friend got it wrong....... sorry.
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October 25, 2012 3:53:48 AM

well thanks for correcting me... althought not the nicest way lol
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October 25, 2012 4:18:20 AM

be careful what you ask for

"(if im wrong, please correct me, guys.) "
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October 25, 2012 12:36:28 PM

logoslala said:
no problem


Thanks for the tip. I have to ask though, every single hd 7850 on New Egg recommends a 500 watt power supply, are you sure I'm not going to run into any issues on my 460 watt?
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October 25, 2012 12:53:13 PM

it's not watts it's amps that matters. a 1000 watt power supply is no good if it only has 10 amps.
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October 25, 2012 1:08:54 PM

Hmm, well that's another factor to worry about, lol. You're confident it will work in my box though?
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October 25, 2012 1:24:57 PM

I don't know how much room you have in your case for one. does size matter ? I would get the 7850 vs the other card for performance reasons and see if there are no power problems associated with it before I purchased another small power supply to take the place of your existing one.
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October 25, 2012 1:47:10 PM

A 550Ti fits perfectly and from the pictures, the 7850 looks very close in size. I'm not gonna buy a power supply, don't want to do that.
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October 25, 2012 7:44:51 PM

I greatly appreciate the help and opinions and I have decided to proceed with the purchase of the GTX 650 Ti EVGA SSC Edition. The HD 7850 just leaves me with too many power questions and I know the 650Ti will be faster and will work. Thanks again!
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October 25, 2012 11:53:19 PM

The HD 7850 uses less power than the 550Ti. So you should be fine.
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October 26, 2012 12:07:00 AM

congratulations on your new 550......... and no, i didn't hit the wrong number keys.
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October 26, 2012 12:20:23 AM

Swifty, why the smarmyness and sarcasm to me? I'm new here so I doubt I have ever done something to offend you.

In any event, thank you to everyone that offered some thoughts.
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October 26, 2012 12:20:58 AM

Best answer selected by jblank.
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October 26, 2012 12:21:23 AM

you didn't read anything or you had the 650 on your mind all the while and no matter what anybody said you were going to buy it............ so congratulations on buying the same performance card instead of an upgrade..............
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October 26, 2012 1:01:08 AM

But it's not the same performance. I bet I read or watched a dozen reviews of the product and its at least a 40% improvement at 1080p. I apologize if my decision bothered you but I went with what I knew would work rather than go a bit out of my comfort zone with the 7850. I still don't think I deserved the reply I got though.
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October 26, 2012 1:06:31 AM

somebody picked a best answer. even that guy said it's not the brightest idea.......... maybe you didn't read that ? that's what makes me think you're mind was already made up.
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October 26, 2012 1:16:50 AM

I read it, took all comments into account and again, made the decision based on what I thought would definitely work and still give solid performance boosts. My mind wasn't totally made up until mid-afternoon today after watching a lot of you tube reviews and reading many reviews and comparisons. I don't doubt the 7850 is faster, that is irrefutable, but with AMD and many reviewers pointing to a 500 watt requirement, I just got a bit squeamish and couldn't pull the trigger.
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