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December 13, 2012 11:04:18 PM

i had a gaming build with the AMD FX 4100 because it was cheap and seemed okay, but after looking at the forums i decided to upgrade to the AMD FX 8120 because i did not want to find a new mobo for an intel CPU, and the reviews for the 8120 are absolutly amazing. but now my build exceeds my $700-$750 budget. im looking to cut as much money off the build but keep basically the same performance.

NOTE: one of the only games im going to play is Planetside 2 on medium to low settings, so this is sort of the benchmark for performace.

here is the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/snDJ

i thought maybe a smaller HDD? (750-500 GB)

NOTE: i also need the OS and monitor, and if you shave money off on the monitor, it has to be a widescreen.

thanks for everybodys help :) 

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December 14, 2012 3:30:42 AM

I haven't heard anything but negative about all bulldozer cpus. I would go for an fx 4300 or 6300. As a matter of fact you might just want to get a phenomx2 965 be. you won't need anything more than that in all honesty, that cuts out $60 right there.
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December 14, 2012 4:57:25 AM

Cheaper RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper and arguably better HDD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper case that is fairly good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Theres nother version that has less fans on it as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper PSU, though you do lose 80+ Certification and Active PFC. Still a reputable unit though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could downgrade the CPU to an FX-6300, it seems to be the chip most recommended for AMD gaming systems. Its also Piledriver rather than Bulldozer.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Beyond that, only thing I can see you doing is halving the RAM and downgrading the GPU to a 7750, which will cut into performance.
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December 14, 2012 10:03:54 PM

manofchalk said:
Cheaper RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper and arguably better HDD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper case that is fairly good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Theres nother version that has less fans on it as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper PSU, though you do lose 80+ Certification and Active PFC. Still a reputable unit though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could downgrade the CPU to an FX-6300, it seems to be the chip most recommended for AMD gaming systems. Its also Piledriver rather than Bulldozer.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Beyond that, only thing I can see you doing is halving the RAM and downgrading the GPU to a 7750, which will cut into performance.


wow, thanks. this wil help a lot, although im keeping my case simply because it looks cooler (lol) and has that cool handle (for LAN parties) and i also dont want a PSU below 500W at the min, so ill stick with mine also. but that was a good CPU recommendation, thanks, after switching them out my build is $725 as of today, which is fine by me
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December 15, 2012 12:35:35 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock N68C-GS FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.04 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Zalman MZ230ED 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $762.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-14 21:34 EST-0500)

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December 15, 2012 12:54:47 AM

Beware, the bios of that motherboard asrock N68C-GS FX has to be updated in order to use the piledriver cpu(fx-6300), meaning without a previous supported amd cpu to update the bios, it's gonna enter a reboot loop.
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December 15, 2012 1:52:30 PM

djangoringo said:
Beware, the bios of that motherboard asrock N68C-GS FX has to be updated in order to use the piledriver cpu(fx-6300), meaning without a previous supported amd cpu to update the bios, it's gonna enter a reboot loop.


does the motherboard I picked out in my original build have to be updated?
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December 15, 2012 1:56:49 PM

boulbox said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock N68C-GS FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.04 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Zalman MZ230ED 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $762.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-14 21:34 EST-0500)

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thanks, but your mobo will need to be updated or something, so i will still use mine, and your monitor is better, but that only lasts for 72 hours and im not ready to buy yet
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December 15, 2012 2:24:57 PM

The mobo 880GM-LE FX is compatible right out of the box with any bulldozer cpus, the fx-8120 is a bulldozer cpu not a piledriver one.
That being said, for gaming you better switch on for an i3-3220 and a 660 gtx, the fx-8120 is a terrible cpu and the 7770 although a decent card, for gaming there are much better ones.
See a e.g. here : http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/G/364516/original/CPU-sc...
It goes right under 750$ :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC e2051Sn 60Hz 20.0" Monitor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $749.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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December 16, 2012 3:23:33 PM

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December 16, 2012 3:29:20 PM

djangoringo said:
The mobo 880GM-LE FX is compatible right out of the box with any bulldozer cpus, the fx-8120 is a bulldozer cpu not a piledriver one.
That being said, for gaming you better switch on for an i3-3220 and a 660 gtx, the fx-8120 is a terrible cpu and the 7770 although a decent card, for gaming there are much better ones.
See a e.g. here : http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/G/364516/original/CPU-sc...
It goes right under 750$ :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC e2051Sn 60Hz 20.0" Monitor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $749.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


okay, i knew Intel is better for gaming, but i went with the FX 8120 or 6300 because of its multiple cores. but, dual core should work fine for now, and i will probably upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future anyway. i dont have much experience in the GeForce cards, is the 660 good?
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December 16, 2012 4:10:38 PM

gommer556 said:
okay, i knew Intel is better for gaming, but i went with the FX 8120 or 6300 because of its multiple cores. but, dual core should work fine for now, and i will probably upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future anyway. i dont have much experience in the GeForce cards, is the 660 good?



i dont like 660 that much, its BUS is very low compared to a lot of others at the same price and you might as well spend an extra $30 on this which can trade blows with a 660 Ti and about $50 cheaper than it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 16, 2012 4:16:53 PM

Before doing that, check the forum for that specific card :

http://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?30188-HD780...

And no the 7870 doesn't trade blows or it's equal to a 660 ti, a 660 ti trades blows with the 7950 and it's better than the 7950 in smoothness, overall gaming.
The 7870 trades blows with the 660 gtx, but the 660 gtx models don't have any of the problems of the 7870.
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December 16, 2012 6:00:32 PM

djangoringo said:
Before doing that, check the forum for that specific card :

http://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?30188-HD780...

And no the 7870 doesn't trade blows or it's equal to a 660 ti, a 660 ti trades blows with the 7950 and it's better than the 7950 in smoothness, overall gaming.
The 7870 trades blows with the 660 gtx, but the 660 gtx models don't have any of the problems of the 7870.




still trading blows, but im not denying that it also trades blows with 7950 since 7950 doesnt even have that much more performance than the 7870. other than that, its just a few FPS lower than 660 Ti when it is about $50 cheaper

My friends that went with the 7870 path didn't really have any problems from sapphire but i guess you can depend on luck for that.
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December 17, 2012 7:35:00 PM

boulbox said:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/images/skyrim_1920_1200.gif

still trading blows, but im not denying that it also trades blows with 7950 since 7950 doesnt even have that much more performance than the 7870. other than that, its just a few FPS lower than 660 Ti when it is about $50 cheaper

My friends that went with the 7870 path didn't really have any problems from sapphire but i guess you can depend on luck for that.



im still a little confused with your little argument, is the 660 good, and what is the difference in the 660 Ti and is it worth buying over the 660.

also, where do you find those charts?
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December 17, 2012 9:38:45 PM

i usually don't recommend 660/660 ti because of its low bus size compared to others but it is a fine choice if you really want to go with nvidia. i prefer some price to performance over and then choose a good brand for that card. the graph is from techpowerup
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December 18, 2012 7:24:37 PM

boulbox said:
i usually don't recommend 660/660 ti because of its low bus size compared to others but it is a fine choice if you really want to go with nvidia. i prefer some price to performance over and then choose a good brand for that card. the graph is from techpowerup


if you dont like the 660 could you recommend a better card for the same price range? i really have no idea what to go with at this point. and no i guess it does not have to be NVIDIA. as long as its good performance i could care less what type it is
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December 18, 2012 9:52:52 PM

The bus size has nothing to do with it, it's the bandwith, lol.

For now yes the 7870 is cutting close to the 660 gtx.

Still the 660 gtx is a good card for 1080p and about the same performance as the 7870, but nvidia cards have more smoothness and percentile fps.

My recommendations(the 660ti and 7950 are out of his budget) :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


But if you want amd get the cheapest 7870 GHZ edtition :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


@ the op check some facts :

http://www.techpowerup.com/177173/HD-7950-May-Give-High...

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...


Good luck with your build.

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