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You can see it in the 3200iso shot, but to me, it looks
no worse than the grain structure of 200iso colour neg. pushed
to 400iso. It's likely a Canon would have produced less,
especially after post-processing, but the shot here seems quite
usable and honestly, at 3200iso, people are taking "documentary"
type shots, the kind where you use what conditions are given to
you. Also, the lens the guy used is a good one.
-Rich

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Stacey wrote:

>
> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/200 [...] couple.jpg

Nice shot. Esp. the contrast of the couples/bench against the trees ..
I would have shot it less centered. I would also have shot it such that
the water was not visible. Hey, it's digital, shoot a bunch!

Care to post the full size?

Cheers,
Alan.

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BTW - the picture in question was a 3200 ISO shot with the E1. The E300 only
goes to 1600 ISO.

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> With respect, that shot owes about 98% to Photoshop, and only 2% to the
> Olympus E300.
>
And you know this HOW????? Were you there for the post processing that you
ASSUME took place??? (I rather doubt it because it would seem based on your
posts that no one in their RIGHT MIND would associate with you.)

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"Steven Wandy" <Swandy@si.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fuwhe.21026$mp6.4920940@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> With respect, that shot owes about 98% to Photoshop, and only 2% to the
>> Olympus E300.
>>
> And you know this HOW????? Were you there for the post processing that you
> ASSUME took place??? (I rather doubt it because it would seem based on
> your posts that no one in their RIGHT MIND would associate with you.)


I 'know' this because I used an E300 for just over a week and took about 600
shots - I 'know' just how much PP the E300 images require - and if you think
that the link was an 'out of the camera shot, then you really are too stupid
to be allowed out without a keeper.

That shot was RAW, and was very heavily manipulated in PP.

End of story.

(except, of course, it might not have been an E300 shot in the first place -
let's see the Exif....whoops...lost in PP?)

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Pentax Owner wrote:

>>
>> You're so right! I can't believe I even bother to take this thing out of
>> the
>> house anymore after reading about how bad it is on these newsgroups..
>>
>> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/200 [...] couple.jpg
>
>
>
>
> With respect, that shot owes about 98% to Photoshop, and only 2% to the
> Olympus E300.
>

Only post processing was some levels adjustment and sharpening.
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>>>they're mostly brain dead twats

How apt he should say this..

Before feeding TROLLs, check their posting history. This dickhead has
never posted before under this name. He is either a snivelling coward,
or thinks trolling is funny. Frankly I don't care which. Either is
equivalent to the brain death he tries to ascribe to anyone who isn't
trapped in his personal paranoia. Imagine the poor thing, raging on
his keyboard, spittle flying...

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Marek M. "rogus" wrote:

> Stacey napisa?(a):
>> You're so right! I can't believe I even bother to take this thing out of
>> the house anymore after reading about how bad it is on these newsgroups..
>>
>> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/200 [...] couple.jpg
>
> picture isn't good...
> scene was well boring but...
> you messed the job ;) they are sliding down and i think the exposure is
> not correct! Hmmm and what lens do you have? If I would put a similar
> lens to my xt i will win ;))
>


Like I said, I should throw this thing in the trash and go buy the camera
you chose and THEN I could take good shots!

BTW where are your examples so I can learn what "right" looks like?

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have posted differently.

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Alan Browne wrote:

> Stacey wrote:
>
>>
>> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/200 [...] couple.jpg
>
>
> Nice shot. Esp. the contrast of the couples/bench against the trees ..
> I would have shot it less centered.


I think he broke the rule of thirds skillfully. The bench & the
foreground branches made me not even notice the dead center framing.



> I would also have shot it such that
> the water was not visible. Hey, it's digital, shoot a bunch!
>
> Care to post the full size?
>
> Cheers,
> Alan.
>

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Paul Furman wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
> > Stacey wrote:

> >> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/200 [...] couple.jpg

> > Nice shot. Esp. the contrast of the couples/bench against the
trees ..
> > I would have shot it less centered.

> I think he broke the rule of thirds skillfully. The bench & the
> foreground branches made me not even notice the dead center framing.

Right. The bench is as much as subject as the couple. And the framing
isn't all that dead center, even saying that the human ficures are the
only subject. The outer outline of the man is at about a third of the
width from the right, (See? rule of thirds even here...) whereas the
outer outline of the woman is more like two fifths from the left.

I agree with Alan about the water, though.

Jan Böhme

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Paul Furman wrote:

>
> I think he broke the rule of thirds skillfully. The bench & the
> foreground branches made me not even notice the dead center framing.

Not a question of rule of thirds, just a question of decentering the
composition. I agree that the branches are a nice touch, they often are.

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Alan Browne wrote:

> Paul Furman wrote:
>
>>
>> I think he broke the rule of thirds skillfully. The bench & the
>> foreground branches made me not even notice the dead center framing.
>
>
> Not a question of rule of thirds, just a question of decentering the
> composition.


Hmm, yes, the foreground actually could have gone away entirely perhaps,
because it's centered vertical as well & the background trees are so
lovely. Also agreed about the water.



> I agree that the branches are a nice touch, they often are.

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Jan Böhme wrote:

> I agree with Alan about the water, though.

I meant that as an alternate, not the 'only' way.

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On Mon, 16 May 2005 11:23:23 -0400, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>Jan Böhme wrote:
>
>> I agree with Alan about the water, though.
>
>I meant that as an alternate, not the 'only' way.

I suppose that's what I mean, too. I _think_ that it would have been
nicer without the water - at least without the bright part of it, but
I can't really tell without having seen it. I can't really figure out
how much more of a frog's perspective of the couple on the bench it
would have reqiuired to get rid of the water, for one thing.

Jan Böhme
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Jan Böhme wrote:

> I can't really tell without having seen it. I can't really figure out
> how much more of a frog's perspective of the couple on the bench it
> would have reqiuired to get rid of the water, for one thing.

Certainly. Unless you were there, there is no way to know what limits
there were.

Photography is often best in proportion to the photographers willingness
to get his pants and shirt dirty. I purchased a cheap ($6.00) foam
camping mat with this in mind for macro work in the woods.

Cheers,
Alan.

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> I 'know' this because I used an E300 for just over a week and took about
> 600 shots - I 'know' just how much PP the E300 images require - and if you
> think that the link was an 'out of the camera shot, then you really are
> too stupid to be allowed out without a keeper.

I really doubt this as I have have an E300 for a few months, have taken much
more
pictures than your supposed 600 and most need little if any PP processing.
Maybe you are the one who needs a handler to be let out in the public???

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Alan Browne wrote:

> Paul Furman wrote:
>
>>
>> I think he broke the rule of thirds skillfully. The bench & the
>> foreground branches made me not even notice the dead center framing.
>
> Not a question of rule of thirds, just a question of decentering the
> composition. I agree that the branches are a nice touch, they often are.
>

Yet someone else said I should crop/clone the branches out, guess you can't
please everybody? :-)

Anyway thanks for the coments, stuff to think about in the future.
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Stacey wrote:

> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>>Not a question of rule of thirds, just a question of decentering the
>>composition. I agree that the branches are a nice touch, they often are.
>>
>
> Yet someone else said I should crop/clone the branches out, guess you can't
> please everybody? :-)

Often branches are used as a frame around a subject or vista, as I'm
sure you know. The effect is usually, but not always pleasing.
Exagerated and it might ruin the image (unless, for example, a sense of
'spying' fits the theme of the shot).

If you try to please everybody, you will please no one. (not sure to
whom that should be attributed).

Again, if you care to post the full 100% image, I would like to see that.

Your link in prev e-mail this evening ( 11884694 ) requires a log in.

Cheers,
Alan

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Alan Browne wrote:


>
> Again, if you care to post the full 100% image, I would like to see that.
>


Email me with your address and I'll send it. I don't have enough bandwidth
to host full size images.
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