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How much video card do i need to play current games?

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October 25, 2012 11:01:02 PM

Hello,

I am building two pcs for my sons for xmas.

So far:

AMD FX 4100 3.6Ghz
Gigabyte GA78 LMT board
8 GB RAM
1 TP 7200 Rpm hard drive
600 watt power sup
Full size case w 3 120mm fans
bluray drive
assorted other bits
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October 25, 2012 11:05:15 PM

How much are you paying for the FX-4100? If you can change it I can help you get a better CPU for the same price that is compatible with the motherboard. I had in mind a high end Phenom II. For your video card I suggest to play all modern games with acceptable frame rates get the HD 7770.
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October 25, 2012 11:08:50 PM

what's the monitor and resolution ? you can use almost any card but you'll need a card that will play smoothly at reasonable settings and resolution. and what 600 watt PS ?
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October 25, 2012 11:10:01 PM

what kind of power supply it really matters. do you really need a blu-ray player does your son watch a whole bunch of blu-ray movies?

It would be best if you put your entire spec list on their then we can really help+ monitor. i know this a long list to fill out but this will help very much. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...
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October 25, 2012 11:12:22 PM

I agree that the Phenom II x4 965 with a 7770 is a great option for budget builds. I actually run a 945 with my 7770 and they work great together. You could probably even step up to a 7850 for $180 with the 965 and not bottle neck.
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October 25, 2012 11:17:58 PM

+1 to all the above posts, anyways what is your budget? We can find you the best Processor and Video card combo there is with it. Also, a word of advice do not cheap out on the power supply. The power supply is a crucial component of the computer, if you do cheap out on it then it may fry something with or it could even go on fire. My advice is to go with Antec, Corsair, XFX, Seasonic, PC power and cooling, Raidmax, the high end cooler master power supplies. Either way we can save you money by suggesting you a power supply that will fit just right in with your components including the processor and video card without wasting money on extra wattage that wont be used.

- Socialfox :) 
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October 26, 2012 12:14:19 AM

I recommend a high end trinity APU. Ends up being a lot cheaper and still great performance.
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October 26, 2012 12:23:46 AM

xa376 said:
I recommend a high end trinity APU. Ends up being a lot cheaper and still great performance.


For modern games? No. Trinity's APU doesn't even come close to a 7770. Without knowing the budget for the GPU, I would say 7850 2gb or 7870. Great cards, great price, will handle whatever they throw at it, maybe not at Ultra, but Medium / High with AA on
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October 26, 2012 12:28:53 AM

I would go for a 7850 or higher if you can afford it. As far as your CPU the FX-4100 will work just fine. If it is for gaming I would not get a APU you would be better off with a discrete graphics card. I know a few people that are running the FX-4100's and they really do just fine with gaming.

People really underestimate what the FX can do. I have a FX-8120 and FX-8150 rigs and they are both really great gaming rigs.
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October 26, 2012 12:54:48 AM

I would say 7850 or GTX 660
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October 26, 2012 1:50:58 AM

dscudella said:
For modern games? No. Trinity's APU doesn't even come close to a 7770. Without knowing the budget for the GPU, I would say 7850 2gb or 7870. Great cards, great price, will handle whatever they throw at it, maybe not at Ultra, but Medium / High with AA on

Hes not looking to run games at super high settings and all that. Hes building a decent rig for his son. A trinity APU will handle any modern game with a very fair fps. A 7850 or 7870 is just overkill for what he is trying to accomplish.
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October 26, 2012 2:30:01 AM

xa376 said:
Hes not looking to run games at super high settings and all that. Hes building a decent rig for his son. A trinity APU will handle any modern game with a very fair fps. A 7850 or 7870 is just overkill for what he is trying to accomplish.


Honestly, both of us could be wrong since the OP has yet to respond on what games and what the budget is. But I respect your input on the APU, it's just not viable for all the benchmarks I've seen, even at 1920x1080.



24FPS on medium at 1920x1080...that's not all that good...
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October 26, 2012 3:01:27 AM

^Seriously. Go for an HD 7850 2GB, and it will last a few years at 1080p.

Also, get a Vishera FX processor - just came out for the same socket, and they're better overall. FX-4300 or FX-6300.
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November 2, 2012 1:51:31 PM

I was looking at the 965 before I decided on the fx-4100; I may just go back to that. I can probably swap it out at micro center. The power supply is:Corsair CX600 V2 CX Series CP-9020048-US 600W Power Supply - 80 Plus, 120mm Fan, Active PFC, 90~264V Input, Supports Full Tower Cases, Single +12V Rail.
I don't necessarily have a budget number in mind, but I would like for it to be sub $200 per unit. The games that will be played are BF3, BO2, Just Cause, games of that sort. I was thinking of a card with 2GB of memory, but you can't always tell how it will perform from spec sheets. The "monitors" are actually 20 inch LCD tv's w hdmi inputs, so I can connect the Dish to them as well.
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November 2, 2012 5:50:41 PM

Do you already own the power supply? I heard that the CX600 v2 is not that good, its rated at 600 watts with a 25 degree temperature, typical high quality power supplies have tests at 40 or 50 degrees. Don't get me wrong though corsair is generally a high quality brand but this power supply in particular seems like it is not the best choice. In addition are you stating you have upped your budget to $200 dollars for the video card? I just wanted to say with my Phenom II X4 955 BE, 8 gb ram, and HD 7770 I achieve 30-45 fps on skyrim with 1600x900 (native resolution of my 20 inch monitor) and with settings to ultra except the shadows have been turned to medium. (the shadows in skyrim are terrible even with the highest setting).
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