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December 15, 2012 6:16:33 PM

I've configured two builds and the first Intel build has a nice Intel CPU with an equally decent graphics card. However the second AMD build I had to sacrifice the CPU quality in order to get a very good graphics card. For the Intel build I can only fit a 500W into my budget but the second build I can afford a 600W.

I've never really been into overclock that much if not at all. I'll be playing games like Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Sims, Guild Wars 2. I'll want to play them on medium/high settings at a smooth frame rate if I can. And my budget is £450 or around $720. Thank you.


Intel Build. http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/sumA

Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core

MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155

Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600

Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM

XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB

Corsair 500W ATX12V

Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer


AMD Build http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/sD1q

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+

Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866

Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM

MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB

XFX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V

Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer

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a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 6:25:26 PM

If you could just fit the 660 gtx with the i5, i wouldn't recommend going with that amd cpu, even the i3 beats the x4 965 by far in gaming.
December 15, 2012 6:28:36 PM

Then that would be going £70 over-budget and there's no way I could make a substantial lowering of price by degrading any other of my parts ...
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 7:24:18 PM



http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/
That review I linked is the latest one with the latest drivers
Went with a FX6300 over the i5 due to price and gaming does not really require i5.
Chose a 7870 over the 660gtx since it could fit in the budget if not going i5

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.54 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card (£174.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Novatexh Case (£15.98)
Total: £456.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-15 21:19 GMT+0000)
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 7:58:57 PM

That was the drivers that favor amd, the nvidia has now newer drivers that boosts performance of the kepler cards (310.70).
I wouldn't go for a 7870, it has been reported with many freeze/black screen problems.
Also that card needs two pcie 6-pin, the psu only has one, draws more power than the 660 gtx.
Also the fx-6300 is worse than an i5, and there's a strong possibility that the bios of the mobo has to be updated in prior to use the piledriver cpu.

See the performance of the fx-6300 :

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...


For me it is much more balanced going with an i5 ivybridge and a 660 gtx.
No problems out of the box, no prior bios updates, better cpu performance, gpu performance is equal to a 7870, without needing more power.

a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 8:14:13 PM

Both AMD and Nvidia have moved onto later drivers, AMD is on 12.11 beta 11 and Nvidia is 310.70
The review was the 12.11 beta 8 and the 310.61
For me the i5 is what makes it unbalanced with too much CPU performance compared to graphics wise.

Same price as the i5 build now
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.54 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£57.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card (£174.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Novatexh Case (£15.98)
Total: £481.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-15 22:15 GMT+0000)

Dropping down to 660gtx and staying within the 450 budget
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.54 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£57.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (£159.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Other: Novatexh Case (£15.98)
Total: £451.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-15 22:13 GMT+0000)
December 15, 2012 8:19:18 PM

simple fix go intel. get an asrock mobo good price works fine. then get the 660
December 15, 2012 8:22:09 PM

I agree with djangoringo. The 660 gtx is a really good deal being able to compete with the 7870 in most titles, while consuming less power.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 8:24:08 PM

The i3 is better cpu for gaming than the fx-6300, the fx-6300 is worse, i wouldn't go with that cpu :

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/far-cry-3-performance-ben...


The i3 even beats the FX-8350.
And like i said there's also the update of the bios motherboard for the piledriver cpu (fx-6300), which it has to be updated from a previous generation cpu in order to use the piledriver cpu, if not it's gonna into a reboot loop.
By going with the i5 saves that hassle, and it has pcie 3.0 support, and it's a much better cpu.
Like i said no reason by going with a 7870, when the 660 gtx is smaller( he has a micro atx case) runs cooler, less heat and power consumption, same performance, but has exclusive features.
The most balanced way is the i5+660 gtx, if in the future he wants another generation card with full utilization of pci 3.0, the i5 will not bottleneck but the fx-6300 will, in far cry 3 there's already bottleneck from amd cpus.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 8:34:49 PM

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...
We can show benchmarks all day that favour one side or the other
That bottleneck is with a 7970, not so if you run with a 660
The FX6300 can overclock and will do better in multiplayer Battlefield 3
AMD will have steamroller while intel 1155 is a dead socket so the AMD actually will have a better upgrade path
The i5 is better but is it worth the extra 30quid?
Note that the 3350p is 100mhz slower at stock and also turbos 300mhz slower than the 3470
December 15, 2012 8:36:01 PM

Oh god this is all so difficult. I don't know whether to go with the phenom ii x4 965 or the fx6300. I want to keep the Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ MOBO. And still have 1866Mhz 2x4GB for the RAM. And I'm also going to go with the Msi GTX 660 2GB its near same benchmarks with the 7870 and its like £15 cheaper. I'm also going with an XFX 550W PSU I don't feel safe going with a 450w to be honest.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 8:40:26 PM

You better go with the i5 like i told you, 450w is more than enough for the 660 gtx.
And like i said you need to update the bios for the mobo with a previous amd cpu.
Also the i5 has pcie 3.0 support.
Don't go with the fx-6300.
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 9:13:26 PM

Aria has preflashed the Gigabyte motherboard to support the FX 6300 (some guy asked them on thw website about the 8350 and the 8350 and fx6300 has the same bios
pcie 3.0 is not necssary until you hit crossfire 7970
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 9:23:06 PM

Using the gigabyte motherboard and the 660gtx
Using a different case but there are several other options for the price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.54 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£29.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (£159.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£35.00 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £456.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-15 23:22 GMT+0000)
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2012 9:25:30 PM

I'm saying for the future cards, the fx-6300 is a dead end for 2 or 3 years cards will indeed use the pcie 3.0 bandwidth, performs worse than the i5, consumes more power, it's a worse cpu overall, it's in fact a three core(three modules) than a 6 six core.
Makes no sense getting a fx-6300 when the i5+660 gtx fits the budget and like i stated even the i3 is better one for gaming.
I'm smelling bullshit about that gigabyte mobo on aria.
And that was my suggestion from the start, i gave my opinion what is the best, now it's up to him to decide, i wish good luck for his build, whatever the parts he choose.
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