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7970 vapor x ghz vs 670 gtx vs 680 for 1080p gaming

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October 28, 2012 7:21:12 AM

hey guys as the title says which is the best card for my needs 1080p all i want to do is max out all the games and be ready for upcoming games and wont be upgrading for next 3 years or so.

my spec are

1.Phenom II x4 965 4.0 ghz oced(air)
2.2x2 Gskill 4 gb ddr3 1600mhz ram
3.750w cooler master psu
4.current gpu 5850 1 gb toxic oced (940/1120)
5.Gigabyte 890 FX UD-7 AM3 motherboard
6.cabinet is HAF 932

i really dont want to upgrade my mobo + cpu just want to upgrade my gpu.

i just want to max out all games for next 3 years without worrying about fps thanks for the help guys.
a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 7:47:36 AM

with the new drivers 7970s out perform gtx680s in everything, even games that were once leaning towards nvidia, like bf3.

not only is the 7970 better in everything now, its also cheaper. so it really is a no brainer on which card to buy.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 8:02:57 AM

7950 is the card you should buy not the 7970. its great value for under $300 and just a little slower than 7970 which you wont even notice at 1080p.
and it will play all your games on max comfortably for 3 years .. maybe
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October 28, 2012 8:33:25 AM

yes i saw the benchmarks of 7950 but is it enough for using all eye candy like AA in games like BF 3,METRO 2033,CRYSIS 2 and SKYRIM.

i live in india so i dont hav much choice for brands so here are my choices.

1 7950 OC http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7950-oc-3-g...

2.680 gtx http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-gtx-680-2-gb-ddr5-...

3.7970 vapor-x 3gb GHZ http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-hd-7970-ddr5-vapor...

4.670 gtx http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-zt...
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 8:56:28 AM

sapphire vapor-x is nice. good cooling solution
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 9:01:25 AM

From the cards you listed the HD 7970 Vapor-X is the best choice but if you're not going to upgrade for a long time i highly reccomend you buy two of those cards.

http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7870-hdmi-o...

Their combined performance is about 30% higher than HD 7970 GHZ Edition or a GTX 680.
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October 28, 2012 9:05:18 AM

well thanks i was also leaning more towards 7970 vapor-x but i dont think i have the budget for getting 2 of these at once maybe a few months later if possible.

for now i think one 7970 will be sufficient for 1080p gaming with ultra settings + max AA right?.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 9:09:10 AM

Yes, even one 7970 will be sufficient for 1080p gaming with ultra settings + max AA.

It's always hard to predict how graphics will change in 3 years, but you should still be able to play AT LEAST on all high settings at 1080p. Maybe ultra with little or no AA.
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October 28, 2012 9:18:54 AM

Kamen_BG said:
From the cards you listed the HD 7970 Vapor-X is the best choice but if you're not going to upgrade for a long time i highly reccomend you buy two of those cards.

http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7870-hdmi-o...

Their combined performance is about 30% higher than HD 7970 GHZ Edition or a GTX 680.


oh i am very sorry i missed your point you were telling for 2 7870 crossfire yea thats not a bad idea but is my system ok for crossfire i mean psu requirements and cpu bottleneck?

so 7870 crossfire is better value than 7970?
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October 28, 2012 9:31:30 AM

Your crappy cpu will bottleneck all those cards.Don't even bother upgrading unless you upgrade to intel ivy bridge system.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 9:35:06 AM

nah, 965@4 ghz will be fine for that card
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 10:18:39 AM

you'll definitely fall short to an i5 system by around 10 fps depending on the games you play.
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October 28, 2012 10:25:08 AM

neon neophyte said:
nah, 965@4 ghz will be fine for that card

Stop posting crap :pfff:  .He will get very bad framerate in cpu bound games like skyrim,BF3 MP.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 10:55:31 AM

^+1
skyrim will be the worst case scenario.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 10:58:33 AM

upgrade RAM to 8GB. I use as much as 5.5GB in Battlefield 3.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 11:53:26 AM

its not crap, its really not that bad. will it be even with a sandy or ivy? no. it will however do *almost* as well as a nahelim.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/348171-33-phenom-7970

and thats not at 4ghz. you cant say its not worth getting a 7970 with that cpu at 4ghz. it clearly is. will there be the odd bottleneck with games that rely heavily on the cpu? ya probably. does that consist of most games? sure doesnt. bf3 works fine on a 965@4ghz btw.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:04:40 PM

neon neophyte said:
its not crap, its really not that bad. will it be even with a sandy or ivy? no. it will however do *almost* as well as a nahelim.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/348171-33-phenom-7970

and thats not at 4ghz. his cpu will handle it fine


A phenom II x4 980 suffers by 16 fps to a 2500k and you're saying a 965@4 ghz will be great?? and that too looking at a previously posted best answer without a convincing proof?No wonder what you're saying here is crap.
For more on the review,have a look.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...
Agreed not all games will be similarly affected,but those that are being affected(skyrim,starcraft 2,just cause 2,metro 2033) are amongst the most popular ones.
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October 28, 2012 12:11:33 PM

Anik8 said:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/N/323915/original/Skyrim.png
A phenom II x4 980 suffers by 16 fps to a 2500k and you're saying a 965@4 ghz will be great?? and that too looking at a previously posted best answer without a convincing proof?No wonder what you're saying here is crap.
For more on the review,have a look.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...
Agreed not all games will be similarly affected,but those that are being affected(skyrim,starcraft 2,just cause 2,metro 2033) are amongst the most popular ones.


In all fairness, the 2500k in that chart is running at 4ghz, where the rest are presumably at stock.
The X4 965 may not be the most glorious thing around, but with a 7970 it'll allow the OP to run most games at least half decently at 4ghz.
To run games at max though, the OP will need to upgrade his cpu and ram.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:11:45 PM

thats skyrim, and even then i think the 980 is doing fine. 965@4ghz is clocked even higher. most games wouldnt show that much of a difference between a better cpu and a phenom2@4ghz, theyre more gpu dependant

yes, ivy and sandy do particularly well. especially when clocked at 4ghz. that doesnt mean everything under them is garbage

if you want to talk about a true bottleneck from his cpu, you would have to claim he wouldnt get any better peformance from a 7970 than he would a lesser card. that just is not true. his cpu is fine for him to buy a 7970 and enjoy it

frankly you are both behaving like elitest children. not everyone has the latest and greatest
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October 28, 2012 12:19:03 PM

damn just when i thought i dont need to upgrade my mobo + cput i just have to do it.

So is that it if i upgrade my mobo + cput thats better than upgrading my gpu now?.

if thats true then i will forget gpu upgrade and go for some z77 mobo + 3570k cpu it will cost me same as a gpu upgrade.

so one final question to everyone mobo + cpu upgrade or gpu upgrade which is better first?.

but if i upgrade mobo + cpu i have to stick with my 5850 for longer cant buy gpu for next few months or even a year.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:20:16 PM

you will see far more benefit to gaming by upgrading your gpu and using the cpu you have now. in most games you wont be hindered by your cpu.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:21:19 PM

aramisathei said:
In all fairness, the 2500k in that chart is running at 4ghz, where the rest are presumably at stock.
The X4 965 may not be the most glorious thing around, but with a 7970 it'll allow the OP to run most games at least half decently at 4ghz.
To run games at max though, the OP will need to upgrade his cpu and ram.


neon neophyte said:
thats skyrim, and even then i think the 980 is doing fine. 965@4ghz is clocked even higher.

yes, ivy and sandy do particularly well. especially when clocked at 4ghz. that doesnt mean everything under them is garbage

if you want to talk about a true bottleneck from his cpu, you would have to claim he wouldnt get any better peformance from a 7970 than he would a lesser card. that just is not true. his cpu is fine for him to buy a 7970 and enjoy it

frankly you are both behaving like elitest children. not everyone has the latest and greatest


I've never considered 965@4 ghz garbage.What I've stated is that with it the OP will fall short by 10 fps on the average.When I see my GPU falling short to benchmarks by 10 fps,I consider it being bottleneck-ed.
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:24:45 PM

gamer1291 said:
damn just when i thought i dont need to upgrade my mobo + cput i just have to do it.

So is that it if i upgrade my mobo + cput thats better than upgrading my gpu now?.

if thats true then i will forget gpu upgrade and go for some z77 mobo + 3570k cpu it will cost me same as a gpu upgrade.

so one final question to everyone mobo + cpu upgrade or gpu upgrade which is better first?.

but if i upgrade mobo + cpu i have to stick with my 5850 for longer cant buy gpu for next few months or even a year.

Upgrade your GPU and add some more RAM modules.
A CPU bottleneck-ed 7970 will still steer you with much better performance than an old 5850.
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October 28, 2012 12:24:58 PM

neon neophyte said:
you will see far more benefit to gaming by upgrading your gpu and using the cpu you have now. in most games you wont be hindered by your cpu.



whew.... thats some relief to hear thanks a lot.

so is it ok if i go for gpu upgrade should i consider 7950 oc or 2x 7870?
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 12:30:26 PM

you would still see benefit with a 7970 over a 7950 in most games
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a b U Graphics card
October 28, 2012 1:06:05 PM

For the best value of the cards you have listed and your present specs, get the Sapphire 7950. Great card.
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October 28, 2012 1:19:15 PM

3 words for the 7970: Horribly Amazing Value!
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