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December 16, 2012 11:06:09 PM

So today I woke up and turned on my monitor and saw it was frozen, restarted it, and then it kept saying Windows needed repair. None of the repair options worked(safe mode wouldn't work either), so I tried just formatting since it's not that old of an installation and data is stored on other drives.


Now the weird part is, Windows Xp, 7, 8, and Linux all crash(PC instantly reboots after Windows 7 installation starting screen) during installation starting up.

I've checked over everything dozen times, but no luck. Tried just loading the OS with only the USB/DVD drives and no hard drives connected and one stick of memory at a time. I've reset the motherboard bios\UEFI too, and flashed it to the latest, but no luck still.

I've never experienced an issue like this before, any suggestions would be appreciated. I may order a temporary motherboard until I get an RMA for mine, only thing I can think of that is causing the issue is the motherboard or maybe the power supply.

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December 16, 2012 11:50:07 PM

Wow you covered everything I was going to recommend.
Did you obtain the OS "Legally " ?

Good Luck trying to fix your issue
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December 17, 2012 12:14:32 AM

Have you tried starting with a "Live" CD?
I use Puppy, butt here are several which you can use to check your hardware.
JB
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December 17, 2012 12:18:23 AM

Yes, I own a legit DVD.


Tried ubuntu live disc without luck.

Switched GPU to another slot on mobo and then it got to installation, then it blue screened with "clock watchdog timeout."
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December 17, 2012 12:20:45 AM

edogawa said:
Yes, I own a legit DVD.


Tried ubuntu live disc without luck.

Switched GPU to another slot on mobo and then it got to installation, then it blue screened with "clock watchdog timeout."


I couldent tell you whats up then. You might just have to take it to a shop. most likely MOBO.

Good Luck!
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December 17, 2012 12:23:06 AM

Michael31 said:
I couldent tell you whats up then. You might just have to take it to a shop. most likely MOBO.

Good Luck!


I think I will just one day ship a new one from Amazon and a new PSU in case, don't want to spend Winter break waiting for RMA. :/ 
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December 17, 2012 12:34:36 AM

Enabled one core on CPU only, and now it seems to be installing OS.
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December 17, 2012 12:58:29 AM

Sounds like your hard drive is going out. I realize its an SSD but according to AnandTech "What we can conclude from the results is that TRIM is definitely broken in SandForce SSDs with firmware 5.0.0, 5.0.1, or 5.0.2. If your SandForce SSD is running the older 3.x.x firmware, you have nothing to worry about because this TRIM issue is limited strictly to 5.x.x firmwares. Luckily, this is not the end of the world because SandForce has been aware of this issue for a long time and a fix is already available for some drives." Here is a link to the article and the fix is as simple as a firmware upgrade if needed - http://www.anandtech.com/show/6107/corsair-force-series... - It might not have anything to do with it but if it's having a hard time with the reads this might be able to fix the problem for you. Can you try doing an installation on a different drive? If you don't or can't use one you already have they are really cheap on ebay just to count that out. I don't think it's a motherboard problem. Possibly a psu but again, I doubt it. Dont forget to make sure all your bios settings are set to defaults (except achi if you installed your LEGAL OS (lol) in that mode instead of ide), to remove any and all overclocks just in case. Being a 2500K I thought you might have an overclock going.
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December 17, 2012 1:23:17 AM

I do some repairs, saw one like that recently, ended up that the CPU had burned out. If you have an old mechanical hard drive, maybe install onto that and see if it works, but the fact you said you set the CPU to 1 core says it could be a CPU issue.
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December 17, 2012 2:20:19 AM

I'll try that, it's weird now, the boot device led is lite up red, no post, symptoms keep changing.


I did have an overclock of 4.5 before this started, never went above 52c while gaming, sits 20c idle.

Thanks for help so far.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 17, 2012 2:21:49 AM

This sounds like a hard drive issue to me.
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December 17, 2012 2:35:37 AM

Ah yes this sounds exactly like the one I had worked on, hard drive was the first thing I checked. If you have a mechanical drive around install on that and see if it acts up, should know by doing that.
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December 17, 2012 3:29:13 AM

Same issue when trying to install on mechanical drive, will order new parts for testing.
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December 17, 2012 5:55:31 PM

New stuff will be here tomorrow, using PC right now on mechanical drive(so it appears it's not the drives), 1 core enabled only, it's overclocking fine, no slow downs, or anything.

I guess the CPU burnt out on some cores?

Ill have all new components to test tomorrow, might RMA the motherboard anyway.

This is very strange, I still think it might be PSU, a couple ports on it don't work, so it might just be defective.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 17, 2012 9:56:25 PM

Could be, the one I worked on sounds exactly like how yours is acting I tried spares of everything except board.
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December 17, 2012 10:46:35 PM

edogawa said:
New stuff will be here tomorrow, using PC right now on mechanical drive(so it appears it's not the drives), 1 core enabled only, it's overclocking fine, no slow downs, or anything.

I guess the CPU burnt out on some cores?

Ill have all new components to test tomorrow, might RMA the motherboard anyway.

This is very strange, I still think it might be PSU, a couple ports on it don't work, so it might just be defective.



It is extremely unlikely that a CPU would have some cores burn out and still function.

This should be very low on your list of possible culprits.
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December 18, 2012 12:26:47 AM

While I normally would agree with the poster above me, after having worked on a system with similar symptoms the CPU makes sense.
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December 18, 2012 12:29:57 AM

I won't say impossible, but I will say very very unlikely.
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December 18, 2012 1:34:56 AM

eshepard said:
I won't say impossible, but I will say very very unlikely.


Yea I agree, it seems HIGHLY unlikely, but still possible. Considering my processor never even goes above 52c even when gaming I can't imagine that.

And I doubt it's the SSD or mech drive since it happens on both.

I'm guessing it's the motherboard, PSU, or memory, very unusual that it works with 1 core only.

Sometimes I wish if a piece of hardware was defective the whole thing would give out, make things quicker to diagnose.
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December 18, 2012 2:03:42 AM

lol this is me asking the dumb question - Are you sure the 8 pin motherboard ATX12v is plugged in properly? If it came loose that would cause the cpu to malfunction not having the proper power, especially if you're overclocking. HAD to ask
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December 18, 2012 2:27:57 AM

suteck said:
lol this is me asking the dumb question - Are you sure the 8 pin motherboard ATX12v is plugged in properly? If it came loose that would cause the cpu to malfunction not having the proper power, especially if you're overclocking. HAD to ask



second this, always start with simple and easy, don't rule out the obvious.
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December 18, 2012 4:24:05 AM

Yeah, I checked that too, I think it's the PSU though if not the motherboard because I have 2 PCI connectors that don't work on my PSU and they go loose easily.

I've never had a PSU fail on me before or cause issues, usually motherboard or RAM. Will find out sometime tomorrow afternoon hopefully when UPS arrives.
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December 18, 2012 5:26:53 AM

Hopefully it's that simple. I know the machine I worked on I tried every part nearly, bout went nuts trying to figure it out.
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December 18, 2012 1:16:06 PM

HA! PSU - the one part you don't list in your sig - gotta be the problem :pt1cable: 
Definitely a good part to change out to try, make sure you get a good brand name model and not a roswell or something like that. Stick with antec or seasonic and the like.
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December 19, 2012 5:20:41 AM

Interesting, it was the processor all along. I stuck a new 2500k in today and it worked right off the bat.

The weird thing though is the back of the processor, it's hard to see unless you angle it right in light, but 90% of the black was a very light gray compared to the other 10%, I wonder how it could have happened when my temps are always so low.

You can't see it to well in image, but it's there, think the motherboard is safe to use still too?

Only went up to 1.3v max at 4.5ghz.


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December 19, 2012 6:15:02 AM

I would say the board is likely ok, but you probably want to be sure that you have a good Aftermarket CPU cooler, and for thermal paste use a thin even layer of artic silver 5 on the entire top of the chip. The one I worked on was an amd, but the stock paste didnt spread right and and parts of the CPU had no paste on them. So over a few months the chip slowly cooked itself. At that time we used artic silver 5 and a cooler master hyper 212 evo which dropped temps about 20 degrees.
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December 19, 2012 7:31:49 AM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
I would say the board is likely ok, but you probably want to be sure that you have a good Aftermarket CPU cooler, and for thermal paste use a thin even layer of artic silver 5 on the entire top of the chip. The one I worked on was an amd, but the stock paste didnt spread right and and parts of the CPU had no paste on them. So over a few months the chip slowly cooked itself. At that time we used artic silver 5 and a cooler master hyper 212 evo which dropped temps about 20 degrees.


Right now I'm using the H100, never seen the 2500k go above 52 during gaming or stress test, so it's weird situation with that processor; at 52c should be safe temperature zone.

I'm pretty good with getting thermal paste to cover the entire CPU with a thin layer; never had an issue with that, using MX-4 lately instead of AS5 too.

Well, it's fixed thanks for the help guys, wish it was just something I overlooked instead of having to order new stuff. :(  I might check the new processor underneath in a month, very strange it did that, but anyways cheers!
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December 19, 2012 7:32:14 AM

Best answer selected by edogawa.
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December 19, 2012 12:54:06 PM

Maybe since you purchased a new processor, get a 3 year warranty through squaretrade.com. Also, you might try to contact intel for warranty replacement, worst they will do is say no. If they send a new CPU, keep it for spare or ebay it to recoup for the new chip.
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