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December 16, 2012 8:37:26 PM

After finally selecting all my components, I ordered. The payment was denied. We tried everything: we resubmitted, entered information again, called our bank provider. This happened last night, we waited and called them in the morning. 40minute wait. After an hour phone call they said they fixed the problem. They pushed the order through. Just got 4 emails saying it was denied (when he pushed it through). The employes don't even care enough to check and see if the order was truly pushed through before hanging up. I just call them again, 39-59minute wait. Thanks newegg for the worse costumer service in existence. This is my first time buying from them, they have great deals, but once you have a problem they seem to lack.


Now im stuck on what 7950 I should I buy, apparently the Vapor X has some voltage problems. What 7950 should I get?

CAN SOMEONE CHECK OUT MY BUILD??? ABOUT TO BUY! AND WILL THE CASE IN THE BUILD FIT THE PARTS?

Hello, sorry if I sound stupid, but I'm new to the computer industry thing. I'm wondering what the best possible build for a gaming computer would be with a budget of 700-850 USD. I would be playing the same ol' BF3, amongst other things. I also know with building computers you have to buy software like the OS, etc. What other software would I need to purchase? How hard is building a computer? What are the risk? I don't have much experience.

-The only hardware I have is a 23.5inch HPx2301 that I recently brought for my PS3.
-Will probably update hardware of the computer in the future.
-How do i install windows 8 without a disk, when i lack any OS on disk?
-Is this all compatible?
-Any bottle-necking?
Sorry about the immense amount of questions.

Current Build in mind:

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 mid

Seagate Barracuda 1TB

Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 x-vapor 3gb (What is the difference between Sapphire's "flex" and "vapor" versions of the 7950????)

CORSAIR TX750 (in case i add two gpu's)

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

MSI Z77A-G45 Motherboard

Intel i5-3570K

SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM

54Mbps 802.11g PCI Wireless LAN Card / Adapter with Detachable Antenna For Most Desktop PC


Maybe a cheap optical drive due to 3.5mb/sec internet connection. Plus a 50ft ethernet cable.

And a surge protector even though im in Cali


HOW THE BUILD LOOK?

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December 16, 2012 8:54:09 PM

Here is a quick PC I made for about $800:

Corsair Carbide Series 200R - $49.99
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB - $79.99
ASUS M5A97 - $89.99
Sapphire HD 7950 - $299.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W - $69.99
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $42.99
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz - $119.99

You've got about $50 left if you want to get yourself a copy of Windows 8. But yeaah that's a pretty beast system :D 
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December 16, 2012 9:01:05 PM

That's all I need? Then I search for guides to how to assemble? How do I know if some is compatible? Would that bottleneck? Idk what I'm talking about, but a 300$ gpu seems weird for was less expensive everything else.
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December 16, 2012 9:16:51 PM

Yea, I'll be open for advice and new builds. Just waiting for a build to be approved by a few people on the forums.
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December 16, 2012 9:26:11 PM

My advice -
Core i5 3450
8GB of Crucial 1866 DDR3 RAM
MSI Z77 Motherboard (you could find one for about 80$ on Newegg)
600W PSU from a company like Thermaltake or XFX
AMD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition from a company like MSI or Gigabyte is good for graphics
1TB Seagate Barracuda Drive
Windows 8
and a Cooler Master Case would top it off!
To bottleneck means you have a fast component that is slowed down due to a hardware limitation (example: a PCI-e 3.0 card in a PCIe 2.0 slot, or a Core i7 3770K with a GeForce 460). I would recommend to stay away from AMD for CPUs (they aren't that good) but stick with them because they have affordable and great GPUs. As for assembling, learn the parts, and read the manuals when you get the parts - if you're a computer hardware wizard however, it all comes natural. Also, Newegg is GREAT for parts (lots of discounts!!)
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December 16, 2012 9:34:13 PM

Thanks payturr and ishanan! whats the difference from an ivy and sandy bridge?
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December 16, 2012 9:35:59 PM

Ivy Bridge is the latest architecture refresh compared to Sandy Bridge. With the new architecture came better power efficiency, better performance, support for PCIe 3.0, and better built in graphics. Go for Ivy Bridge, it's slightly cheaper, and it is a good upgrade to Sandy Bridge.
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December 16, 2012 9:39:41 PM

how much would a prebuilt with those quality of parts cost? and that is all compatible? and the manuals should be sufficient to build it? what about the risk?
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December 16, 2012 9:41:35 PM

NEVER buy a prebuilt. They often come with limitations & aren't done to most people's standards, I recommend building it yourself & yes, all these parts are compatible. Motherboards come with manuals telling you which slot should have which part go in. As for the case, it tells you where the screw mounts are and what not. As for risk, there's only a risk if you don't have any idea what you're doing.
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December 16, 2012 9:44:40 PM

Oh, thanks for this build, will probably end up going with it or something extremely similar. What is the performance on this computer once built? and how will upgrading hardware go with it?
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December 16, 2012 9:47:18 PM

The performance will be very good for the price & what's being put in. The CPU won't have to be upgraded, just the GPU and drives over time. And upgrading is as easy and installing parts.
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December 16, 2012 9:48:06 PM

Thanks robthatguy, just started watching the 3 part series.
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December 16, 2012 9:49:49 PM

And windows 8, or 7?
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December 16, 2012 9:51:28 PM

Windows 8 is the best for gaming performance, plus its cheaper.
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December 16, 2012 9:52:55 PM

will i need a better fan? or just use the one that comes with it? sorry if it seems stupid, but where does the disk go (what part)?
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December 16, 2012 10:06:43 PM

so i would have to buy an optical drive as well as your guys' list?

GTX570 or AMD Radeon HD 7870?
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December 16, 2012 10:10:17 PM

Only if you watch DVDs still & plan to install Windows 8 with a DVD. As for heatsink fan, you could use the stock one - its decent.
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December 16, 2012 10:18:02 PM

GTX570 or AMD Radeon HD 7870 was reading up and said GTx570 is slightly better? and what about computer games? aren't those in disk form?

Can you explain the different editions of the 7870, there is like Sapphire, Gigabyte, Diamond (one on newegg) etc. all having costing different.

And with psu's what would require more than 600?
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December 16, 2012 10:42:45 PM

Differance of brands of RAM? What is best for 8bgs that works with payturr build?

i5-3450 or i5-3450s

i5- 3450 has more power it seems
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December 16, 2012 10:49:25 PM

AMD Radeon 7870 is better, 570 is older and is less power efficient. Modern computer games are downloaded over the internet. When you buy into a brand, you get different clock speeds, amount of video RAM, bundled goods, video interface support, and cooling methods. Dual GPU set ups will need more than 600W PSUs.
3450 is fine, the s is really pointless. Just go with that friend. And for RAM, go with Crucial, they have very reliable RAM.
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December 16, 2012 11:07:11 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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December 17, 2012 2:48:07 AM

Would it worth running an Ethernet cable (about 30-50ft) to my computer, because our household only has 3.5mb/sec. And i cant convince my dad for more.
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December 17, 2012 2:59:34 AM

And how would i install windows without a disk?

Would it worth running an Ethernet cable (about 30-50ft) to my computer, because our household only has 3.5mb/sec. And i cant convince my dad for more.

On newegg the
i5-3470 and if-3450 are extremely close in price, but the 3470 being faster. get the 3470 over the 3450?

is the Sapphire HD 7950 worth getting over the Gigabyte 7870?
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December 17, 2012 3:22:28 AM

oops
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December 17, 2012 4:51:46 AM

Anyone?
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December 17, 2012 8:51:20 AM

Cable length won't affect anything for ethernet so long as its a good cable. That really has nothing to do with computer compatibility. I personally would just put a D-Link Wifi card in though, because a really long cable is a really annoying cable. As for 3470 vs. 3450, its your choice really. I would go with 3450 due to the amount of people using it with good, positive reviews. And for graphics card, if you're gonna do heavy gaming, 7950. If just casual gaming, 7870 is better for the price.
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December 17, 2012 8:50:55 PM

what about the 3570? its 10$ more, and a little faster? any complaints?

What D link thing should i get? a card to put a cable in or a wifi usb thing? Because we have 3.5mb/s connection so i was thinking a wired conntection to squeeze every bit out of it.

And is the 7950 alot better? and could my processor not bottle neck it?
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December 17, 2012 10:08:19 PM

You can get the 3570, just don't get the 3570K unless you wanna overclock - overclocking is for PC pros who really know what they're doing. It's locked counter part, the 3570, is very good.
A wifi internal card for PCI-e 1x is good. A USB wifi card is good, but it gets in the way. A wired connection would work, but trust me, its easier just to get a wifi card unless you don't have wifi! Then just go with a really long ethernet cable.
7950 is a lot better, but don't really buy it unless you're not gonna game heavily. And no, the processor is brand new - it won't bottleneck any GPU for like, 3 years.
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December 17, 2012 10:31:22 PM

thanks! just cut like 40$ off
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December 17, 2012 11:06:44 PM

Welcome :3
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December 18, 2012 3:59:15 AM

Are the Radeons 7950's stable now (maybe new, more stable drivers)? I was searching the web is there is a bunch of complaints on driver issues and sometimes bad card. Yet most of the complaints were a few months ago.
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December 18, 2012 4:53:24 AM

Wii a 600psu be able to run the OP's above set up?
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December 18, 2012 8:24:50 AM

The 7950 is a great card, with good driver support. I haven't had an issue with Radeon drivers. As for Windows 8, click here. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbpage... Go with download, download it, and load it onto a USB flash drive. As for PSU, I saw a deal for a 90$ Antec 750W PSU, 80+, I'd buy that - it's more power efficient and supports a lot of hardware with power.
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December 18, 2012 8:51:31 PM

That says upgrade? could i put that on a new pc with no prior windows os?
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December 18, 2012 9:40:12 PM

payturr said:
The 7950 is a great card, with good driver support. I haven't had an issue with Radeon drivers. As for Windows 8, click here. http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbpage... Go with download, download it, and load it onto a USB flash drive. As for PSU, I saw a deal for a 90$ Antec 750W PSU, 80+, I'd buy that - it's more power efficient and supports a lot of hardware with power.



"To install Windows 8 Pro upgrade, customers must be running Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, or Windows 7. If you would like to upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8 Pro, click here."

Windows site, uh idk is that the right one?
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December 18, 2012 10:12:05 PM

Hm. I've seen people use upgrades & install them on fresh drives.
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December 18, 2012 10:23:47 PM

any tips on how too?
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December 18, 2012 11:38:18 PM

Just download it, buy it, put it on a USB drive, and when you install it on your new computer, say its a custom install, not a regular upgrade - the custom install allows disk formatting & writing. Then just put in the upgrade code after it installs.
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December 19, 2012 1:46:47 AM

Thanks! You've been so helpful on this build! Is that a confirmed on the upgrade thing? Is the above build good? Any suggestions?
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December 19, 2012 1:49:42 AM

What ports would this build have? With exact parts that are posted?
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December 19, 2012 2:09:52 AM

updated OP build
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December 19, 2012 9:03:33 PM

about to buy, is 8 ram enough
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December 19, 2012 10:07:25 PM

Hell yeah! Maybe even more than enough man
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December 20, 2012 12:45:36 AM

will i need a better mobo? I plan on in the distant (very distant) future to overclock. So i was wondering if i need a better mobo to OC more efficiently.
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December 20, 2012 1:50:48 AM

z77 pro3 or msi z77 g41 or something else? Need help prices have rose for my build 30$ in two days
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December 20, 2012 8:12:19 AM

Usually any Z77 motherboard is a REALLY good overclocker's board. Here's two boards that I recommend - one's 200$, ones 120$.
The 200$ board is known as the MPower, it is overclock certified (they bring this board out into a VERY hot room, overclock i7s, and have it run for 24 hours straight): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Then there's the G45, it has a lot of nice features, military grade hardware, and on top of that, its very affordable for what it has:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, if you're gonna overclock, you're gonna need a new CPU cooler because stock Intel coolers are absolute garbage - here's one I recommend, the Hyper 212 Plus, overclocker's favorite:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 20, 2012 8:53:03 PM

Thanks that completes my build! Will order today, anyone mind checking over the parts in the OP?
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