New to Computers: Best 800$ Build

[Mlim666]

After finally selecting all my components, I ordered. The payment was denied. We tried everything: we resubmitted, entered information again, called our bank provider. This happened last night, we waited and called them in the morning. 40minute wait. After an hour phone call they said they fixed the problem. They pushed the order through. Just got 4 emails saying it was denied (when he pushed it through). The employes don't even care enough to check and see if the order was truly pushed through before hanging up. I just call them again, 39-59minute wait. Thanks newegg for the worse costumer service in existence. This is my first time buying from them, they have great deals, but once you have a problem they seem to lack.


Now im stuck on what 7950 I should I buy, apparently the Vapor X has some voltage problems. What 7950 should I get?

CAN SOMEONE CHECK OUT MY BUILD??? ABOUT TO BUY! AND WILL THE CASE IN THE BUILD FIT THE PARTS?

Hello, sorry if I sound stupid, but I'm new to the computer industry thing. I'm wondering what the best possible build for a gaming computer would be with a budget of 700-850 USD. I would be playing the same ol' BF3, amongst other things. I also know with building computers you have to buy software like the OS, etc. What other software would I need to purchase? How hard is building a computer? What are the risk? I don't have much experience.

-The only hardware I have is a 23.5inch HPx2301 that I recently brought for my PS3.
-Will probably update hardware of the computer in the future.
-How do i install windows 8 without a disk, when i lack any OS on disk?
-Is this all compatible?
-Any bottle-necking?
Sorry about the immense amount of questions.

Current Build in mind:

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 mid

Seagate Barracuda 1TB

Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 x-vapor 3gb (What is the difference between Sapphire's "flex" and "vapor" versions of the 7950????)

CORSAIR TX750 (in case i add two gpu's)

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

MSI Z77A-G45 Motherboard

Intel i5-3570K

SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM

54Mbps 802.11g PCI Wireless LAN Card / Adapter with Detachable Antenna For Most Desktop PC


Maybe a cheap optical drive due to 3.5mb/sec internet connection. Plus a 50ft ethernet cable.

And a surge protector even though im in Cali


HOW THE BUILD LOOK?

 

[ihsaan96]

Here is a quick PC I made for about $800:

Corsair Carbide Series 200R - $49.99
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB - $79.99
ASUS M5A97 - $89.99
Sapphire HD 7950 - $299.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W - $69.99
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $42.99
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz - $119.99

You've got about $50 left if you want to get yourself a copy of Windows 8. But yeaah that's a pretty beast system

 

[Mlim666]

That's all I need? Then I search for guides to how to assemble? How do I know if some is compatible? Would that bottleneck? Idk what I'm talking about, but a 300$ gpu seems weird for was less expensive everything else.

 

[Mlim666]

People say the AMD FX-4170 Zambezi is not so good for gaming? Is that true? They said "The 4170 is poor, it get's out gamed by a i3 dual core."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-9.html

 

[Mlim666]

Yea, I'll be open for advice and new builds. Just waiting for a build to be approved by a few people on the forums.

 

[payturr]

My advice -
Core i5 3450
8GB of Crucial 1866 DDR3 RAM
MSI Z77 Motherboard (you could find one for about 80$ on Newegg)
600W PSU from a company like Thermaltake or XFX
AMD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition from a company like MSI or Gigabyte is good for graphics
1TB Seagate Barracuda Drive
Windows 8
and a Cooler Master Case would top it off!
To bottleneck means you have a fast component that is slowed down due to a hardware limitation (example: a PCI-e 3.0 card in a PCIe 2.0 slot, or a Core i7 3770K with a GeForce 460). I would recommend to stay away from AMD for CPUs (they aren't that good) but stick with them because they have affordable and great GPUs. As for assembling, learn the parts, and read the manuals when you get the parts - if you're a computer hardware wizard however, it all comes natural. Also, Newegg is GREAT for parts (lots of discounts!!)

 

[Mlim666]

Thanks payturr and ishanan! whats the difference from an ivy and sandy bridge?

 

[payturr]

Ivy Bridge is the latest architecture refresh compared to Sandy Bridge. With the new architecture came better power efficiency, better performance, support for PCIe 3.0, and better built in graphics. Go for Ivy Bridge, it's slightly cheaper, and it is a good upgrade to Sandy Bridge.

 

[Mlim666]

how much would a prebuilt with those quality of parts cost? and that is all compatible? and the manuals should be sufficient to build it? what about the risk?

 

[payturr]

NEVER buy a prebuilt. They often come with limitations & aren't done to most people's standards, I recommend building it yourself & yes, all these parts are compatible. Motherboards come with manuals telling you which slot should have which part go in. As for the case, it tells you where the screw mounts are and what not. As for risk, there's only a risk if you don't have any idea what you're doing.

 

[robthatguyx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
that video series is your friend if your new to computers

 

[Mlim666]

Oh, thanks for this build, will probably end up going with it or something extremely similar. What is the performance on this computer once built? and how will upgrading hardware go with it?

 

[payturr]

The performance will be very good for the price & what's being put in. The CPU won't have to be upgraded, just the GPU and drives over time. And upgrading is as easy and installing parts.

 

[Mlim666]

Thanks robthatguy, just started watching the 3 part series.

 

[Mlim666]

And windows 8, or 7?

 

[payturr]

Windows 8 is the best for gaming performance, plus its cheaper.

 

[Mlim666]

will i need a better fan? or just use the one that comes with it? sorry if it seems stupid, but where does the disk go (what part)?

 

[Mlim666]

so i would have to buy an optical drive as well as your guys' list?

GTX570 or AMD Radeon HD 7870?

 

[payturr]

Only if you watch DVDs still & plan to install Windows 8 with a DVD. As for heatsink fan, you could use the stock one - its decent.

 

[Mlim666]

GTX570 or AMD Radeon HD 7870 was reading up and said GTx570 is slightly better? and what about computer games? aren't those in disk form?

Can you explain the different editions of the 7870, there is like Sapphire, Gigabyte, Diamond (one on newegg) etc. all having costing different.

And with psu's what would require more than 600?

 

[Mlim666]

Differance of brands of RAM? What is best for 8bgs that works with payturr build?

i5-3450 or i5-3450s

i5- 3450 has more power it seems

 

[payturr]

AMD Radeon 7870 is better, 570 is older and is less power efficient. Modern computer games are downloaded over the internet. When you buy into a brand, you get different clock speeds, amount of video RAM, bundled goods, video interface support, and cooling methods. Dual GPU set ups will need more than 600W PSUs.
3450 is fine, the s is really pointless. Just go with that friend. And for RAM, go with Crucial, they have very reliable RAM.

 

[Mousemonkey]

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey

 

[Mlim666]

Would it worth running an Ethernet cable (about 30-50ft) to my computer, because our household only has 3.5mb/sec. And i cant convince my dad for more.

 

[Mlim666]

And how would i install windows without a disk?

Would it worth running an Ethernet cable (about 30-50ft) to my computer, because our household only has 3.5mb/sec. And i cant convince my dad for more.

On newegg the
i5-3470 and if-3450 are extremely close in price, but the 3470 being faster. get the 3470 over the 3450?

is the Sapphire HD 7950 worth getting over the Gigabyte 7870?