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hi guys
just wondering what setup im going to build, i know theres a lot of bad opinions about amd but i thought id give it a shot
1st setup : CPU: amd fx 4170 4.2 GHz
MOBO: Gigabyte 970A DS3
GPU: amd radeon hd 6850
2nd Setup: CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz
MOBO: Asus F2A55-M LE
GPU: amd radeon hd 6850

Whick 1 would be better? would really appreciate your opinions>
also, would a 450w psu be able to run this setup?
thanks

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$70 ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$100 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$160 AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $364.96

if your power supply has a 6 pin pcie power cable you can get a 7770, 7750 does not require additional power
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alvine said:
$70 ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$100 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$35 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$160 AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $364.96

if your power supply has a 6 pin pcie power cable you can get a 7770, 7750 does not require additional power

on a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you think that system you named is?
thanks
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i would give it a 7.5
it has an 8 core processor vs quad core you have listed in both builds
7750 is on the pair with 6850 but its more enerfy efficient and it supports dx 11 (6850 supports dx10), umm 8 gigs of ram is plenty and you didnt include ram in your builds
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^ + 1 on the build and the rating !!! The 450W should be fine as long as it is a quality PSU.
If you don't already have one - this Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply for only $43 including shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Should do nicely and put you at only $407.94 if you pick the 7750.

If you choose the SAPPHIRE 100358L Radeon HD 7770
found here - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It will run you only another $12 after mail in rebate and the psu can and will handle it.

alvine said:
i would give it a 7.5
it has an 8 core processor vs quad core you have listed in both builds
7750 is on the pair with 6850 but its more enerfy efficient and it supports dx 11 (6850 supports dx10), umm 8 gigs of ram is plenty and you didnt include ram in your builds

hi alvine, gonna order all my parts as soon as my money comes in, thanks for the advice, i just wanna know my psu has a 24 pin power connector and a 4 pin power connector. on the motherboard do i have to plug in the 24pin and the 4 pin connector? also i have 3 other 4 pin power connectors, for the 7770 gpu should i get a 2x4 pin to 6 pin converter
thanks
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The motherboard will require the 24 (20+4) pin and the 8 (4+4) pin power connectors to be connected. The 7770 will require a 6 pin power connector. If your psu has one, it should be a 6 pin and not a 4+2 pin, If you are going with the psu that I linked you to it does have one. If you have a different psu and it doesn't have the 6 pin connector, the video card from newegg, and probably anywhere you're buying that new card, comes with a molex adapter for the 6 pin plug so you should be good to go.

suteck said:
The motherboard will require the 24 (20+4) pin and the 8 (4+4) pin power connectors to be connected. The 7770 will require a 6 pin power connector. If your psu has one, it should be a 6 pin and not a 4+2 pin, If you are going with the psu that I linked you to it does have one. If you have a different psu and it doesn't have the 6 pin connector, the video card from newegg, and probably anywhere you're buying that new card, comes with a molex adapter for the 6 pin plug so you should be good to go.

my psu only has the 4 pin connector for the motherboard, will this work as an alternative?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-E-4-to-8-Pin-PCI-E-Adapter-...
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Yes, that should work, but I'm a little concerned about the psu now. What brand, model and wattage do you have? Will it run the 7770 video card? Make sure it's at lease a 400watt psu. This is one of the most important parts. Please make sure it's a good one or it might take out your other components with it when it goes.

suteck said:
Yes, that should work, but I'm a little concerned about the psu now. What brand, model and wattage do you have? Will it run the 7770 video card? Make sure it's at lease a 400watt psu. This is one of the most important parts. Please make sure it's a good one or it might take out your other components with it when it goes.

it is a 450w yama power supply. it is a local brand, i live in south africa and i asked around about this psu and it seems quite decent
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Well, if it's the local good brand then you should, hopefully, be alright. Your board should power up ok if you connect the 24 pin connector and the P4 or 4 pin connector to your motherboard. If I looked it up wright then your psu will only have the one 4 pin connector. As long as you can get a 4 pin in the motherboard then it should work, but it will work at a reduced rate. Like no overclocking, you will have to be very picky at what cards you put in the pci-e slots because that's what the other 4 pins are for - some extra power to the cpu and some extra to the pci-e lanes when needed. Not sure how or where you look for parts over there but they also make this - LOGISYS Model AD202 9.5" 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter M-M - that you can get, or whatever equivalent you can get, and be able to completely use your motherboard. But between this one and the one for the video card you will be using all 4 of the molex connectors so make sure everything else uses the 3 sata connectors. just make sure your power supply has enough power connectors for what you want it to do.

Other than that, it sounds like you're all set when the parts come in.

suteck said:
Well, if it's the local good brand then you should, hopefully, be alright. Your board should power up ok if you connect the 24 pin connector and the P4 or 4 pin connector to your motherboard. If I looked it up wright then your psu will only have the one 4 pin connector. As long as you can get a 4 pin in the motherboard then it should work, but it will work at a reduced rate. Like no overclocking, you will have to be very picky at what cards you put in the pci-e slots because that's what the other 4 pins are for - some extra power to the cpu and some extra to the pci-e lanes when needed. Not sure how or where you look for parts over there but they also make this - LOGISYS Model AD202 9.5" 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter M-M - that you can get, or whatever equivalent you can get, and be able to completely use your motherboard. But between this one and the one for the video card you will be using all 4 of the molex connectors so make sure everything else uses the 3 sata connectors. just make sure your power supply has enough power connectors for what you want it to do.

Other than that, it sounds like you're all set when the parts come in.

thanks for the advice, that being said im going to have to go with the hd 7750 rather than the 7770 because the 7770 requires a 6 pin power supply and i wont be able to provide for that because my molex cables will be used up? how much better id the 7770 to the 7750? thanks

suteck said:
Well, if it's the local good brand then you should, hopefully, be alright. Your board should power up ok if you connect the 24 pin connector and the P4 or 4 pin connector to your motherboard. If I looked it up wright then your psu will only have the one 4 pin connector. As long as you can get a 4 pin in the motherboard then it should work, but it will work at a reduced rate. Like no overclocking, you will have to be very picky at what cards you put in the pci-e slots because that's what the other 4 pins are for - some extra power to the cpu and some extra to the pci-e lanes when needed. Not sure how or where you look for parts over there but they also make this - LOGISYS Model AD202 9.5" 12V Molex to 8pin P8 Adapter M-M - that you can get, or whatever equivalent you can get, and be able to completely use your motherboard. But between this one and the one for the video card you will be using all 4 of the molex connectors so make sure everything else uses the 3 sata connectors. just make sure your power supply has enough power connectors for what you want it to do.

Other than that, it sounds like you're all set when the parts come in.

sorry about the multiple replies but if i were to use this with the 4 pin mobo connector i already have would it work? if so i could get the 7770 aswell?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pin-Molex-IDE-to-4-Pin-ATX-P4...
thanks for your help
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My GOD.NO
DONT LET HIM BUY A FX 8120!!!

FX 8320
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/?tag=pcpapi-20
20% faster uses 10 % less electricity, overclocks better.

For the memory
Mushkin Blackline 1600 Cl9
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60640&vpn=996995&manuf...

And the graphics card
MSI GTX 650 Ti Power Edition
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009K1PY5Q/?tag=pcpapi-20
20+ % more powerfull than a HD 7770

Kamen_BG said:
My GOD.NO
DONT LET HIM BUY A FX 8120!!!

FX 8320
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/?tag=pcpapi-20
20% faster uses 10 % less electricity, overclocks better.

For the memory
Mushkin Blackline 1600 Cl9
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60640&vpn=996995&manuf...

And the graphics card
MSI GTX 650 Ti Power Edition
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009K1PY5Q/?tag=pcpapi-20
20+ % more powerfull than a HD 7770

y not the 8120? i would take your advice but the shipping for the 8320 exceeds my budget and the same with the gtx 560 ti
thanks for your opinion
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