Going to the green team but how

[spentshells]

Hello,

Ive got the option to gget a gtx570 for 150 dollars. Vanilla msi vesion.

since the release I have been looking at the gtx660 I can pickup the SOC EVGA or GB windforce for 229 + tax

The 570 is looking really good right now what does everyone think

I realise the exact gap between the cards performance wise and I am having a hard time justifying 80 dollars plus tax for the extra performance.

1 1920x1080 screen

games
Boaderlands 2
replay crysis 2 and crysis warhead
and probly DOW 2 again
hawx 2
bullet storm
dirt 1-3 (should I buy a controller?)
battlefield 2 AND 3

Im deffinately going green here so let me know what you think and quick 3 hours before I close the thread annd buy the card.

 

[Sunius]

I'd go GTX 570. They are so close in performance, and the small memory bus on GTX 660 doesn't help. Extra VRAM isn't needed either for current games.

 

[Limerick]

I would go AMD. The AMD 7870 is less than the GTX 570 and has better performance. It can also be overclocked alot. It beats overclocked 670s and gets to performances just below the stock 680. Just something to think about before going green team.

 

[Sunius]

What have you been smoking dude.. HD 7870 is slower than GTX 580. And it's certainly more expensive - much more expensive than GTX 570 in OPs case.

 

[Supernova1138]

The 570 isn't a bad deal for $150. Be aware that you will run out of video memory if you run Crysis 2 on ultra with high resolution textures. You need 1.6 to 1.8 GB for that. Same thing if you want to run Battlefield 3 on ultra. The more demanding titles are starting to use more than 1.2 GB of video memory at 1080p resolution. So if you are looking to max out the latest titles, you may want to get a card with 2GB of video memory.

 

[Guest]

I would go AMD. The AMD 7870 is less than the GTX 570 and has better performance. It can also be overclocked alot. It beats overclocked 670s and gets to performances just below the stock 680. Just something to think about before going green team.

Im sorry but nothing in your comment is true.

The 570 in this case is $150, 7870 is ~$200 AFTER rebate on newegg. Again he is getting his 570 cheaper than retail.
(We aren't talking in general. Plus current 570s are about $220.)

also a stock 7870 does not beat a stock 670, nor an overclocked 670. In fact the 670 can OC just as good in most cases better depending on the chip you receive.

For that price, a 570 should be a no brainer, although it is a generation behind now, gets hotter and uses more power.

 

[swifty_morgan]

I'd get the 660 and I wouldn't look back. it'll run cooler, has more vram and is faster.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_660_hawk_review,1.html

 

[spentshells]

swifty I was about to go buy the 570 in a few minutes... hmm

 

[bigcyco1]

 

[Limerick]

What have you been smoking dude.. HD 7870 is slower than GTX 580. And it's certainly more expensive - much more expensive than GTX 570 in OPs case.

No. Overclocked the 7870 can, and does beat 670s and come below 680s. Look it up.

 

[Guest]

Im sorry but nothing in your comment is true.

The 570 in this case is $150, 7870 is ~$200 AFTER rebate on newegg. Again he is getting his 570 cheaper than retail.
(We aren't talking in general. Plus current 570s are about $220.)

also a stock 7870 does not beat a stock 670, nor an overclocked 670. In fact the 670 can OC just as good in most cases better depending on the chip you receive.

For that price, a 570 should be a no brainer, although it is a generation behind now, gets hotter and uses more power.

swifty I was about to go buy the 570 in a few minutes... hmm

I would also get the 660.

I would honestly also get the 570 and sell it on eBay for at least $200 and make some profit while you are at it.

 

[swifty_morgan]

swifty I was about to go buy the 570 in a few minutes... hmm

sorry but you gotta call'em like you see'um.

 

[Derza10]

Just get the 570, you won't have VRAM issues... by the time you hit vram issues with all those settings maxed out... you won't be getting good fps anyway...

So you wouldn't have them maxed anyhow.

 

[Guest]

No. Overclocked the 7870 can, and does beat 670s and come below 680s. Look it up.

You seem to forget that the 670 and 680 both overclock very well.

I would love to see the benchmarks to back up your argument.

 

[Limerick]

a 7970 non GHZ edition is slightly faster than a 680. Are you saying an overclocked 7870 is also faster than a 7970?


I would love to see the benchmarks to back up your argument.

Yes. It can go just a bit over the 7970 at stock. The max anyone has gotten one and stayed stable is at 1325 MHz.

 

[Derza10]

From what i could find the GTX 660 is only 1-4 fps faster than the 570... Here you can look threw this it has the 660 and 570 on the same charts... For $150 the 570 is the way to go IMO.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-geforce-gtx-650-benchmark,3297.html

 

[paddys09]

Yes. It can go just a bit over the 7970 at stock. The max anyone has gotten one and stayed stable is at 1325 MHz.

You make some bold statements, I hope you have some credible evidence

I vote the 660, does make that bit of difference in the games that need the extra VRAM plus cooler less power etc

 

[Derza10]

You make some bold statements, I hope you have some credible evidence

I vote the 660, does make that bit of difference in the games that need the extra VRAM plus cooler less power etc

The 570 is about $80 cheaper than the 660.. yes the 660 is better, but not by much definitely not $80 better.

If he was buying a 570 for ~220-230 (what they are going for on newegg) or a 660 also in the same price range i would say go with the 660. But he isn't he can get the 570 for $150.

 

[paddys09]

The 570 is about $80 cheaper than the 660.. yes the 660 is better, but not by much definitely not $80 better.

If he was buying a 570 for ~220-230 (what they are going for on newegg) or a 660 also in the same price range i would say go with the 660. But he isn't he can get the 570 for $150.

Yea fair point, for the money that 570 is a better deal... still think the 660 is worth considering if starting from scratch though

 

[Rockdpm]

You seem to forget that the 670 and 680 both overclock very well.

I would love to see the benchmarks to back up your argument.

So would I, what rubbish. I don't care if they were latest drivers or not the 7870 isn't gonna be a GTX 670 or 680. Now way NO HOW

 

[paddys09]

So would I, what rubbish. I don't care if they were latest drivers or not the 7870 isn't gonna be a GTX 670 or 680. Now way NO HOW

Maybe thats what he meant by a warped sense of humor, If you replace the word "humor" with "reality" then everything he said makes sense

 

[Darkoil]

I'd go with the 570, fantastic card and that sounds like a great deal.

 

[Limerick]

Maybe thats what he meant by a warped sense of humor, If you replace the word "humor" with "reality" then everything he said makes sense

OK, Ok, no need to go that far. I did some more looking into it and I couldn't find the benchmarks to prove it. I read it somewhere then couldn't find. Green team wins this time lol. Maybe next year?

 

[paddys09]

OK, Ok, no need to go that far. I did some more looking into it and I couldn't find the benchmarks to prove it. I read it somewhere then couldn't find. Green team wins this time lol. Maybe next year?

Yea didn't mean to offend, my sense of humor isn't that great either as you can probably tell :lol:

It was just a comment that was going to get picked up on by somebody eventually, if the 7870 was that good then everyone would have one...

Good card though and is better than a 660 in most instances, just not 670/680 performance levels

 

[Limerick]

Yea didn't mean to offend, my sense of humor isn't that great either as you can probably tell :lol:

It was just a comment that was going to get picked up on by somebody eventually, if the 7870 was that good then everyone would have one...

Good card though and is better than a 660 in most instances, just not 670/680 performance levels

Agreed. It would be nice if someone could send me the highest OC benchmark on it though. All I know about it is from fellow forum members and some articles. It's the one card in the AMD lineup I know least about.