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November 1, 2012 4:57:20 AM

Hello I wanted to get your guys opinion on a problem me and my friend are currently facing. My Friend is in the market for getting a new monitor for his PC. His budget is 600$ His current setup is running an i5 2500k@4.4ghz and an AMD 7970 with 8gigs of 1600 DDR3 RAM. Here is our question. We don't know if we should get him a 2560x1440 resolution 27" monitor @60hz or a 24"-27" 1920x1080 @120hz monitor. My friend is a guy who does care about performance and good frames. With a 1920x1080 monitor @120hz games will still look really good and get great fps above 60fps and I feel like on a 2560x1440 res monitor he would have to turn down a lot of bells and whistles to get good performance(60fps) We both feel like the visual upgrade you get from 2560x1440 is nice but it's not worth giving up that good performance when games still look great at 1920x1080 with all the bells and whistles turned on. We've both looked at some bench marks and the frames seem rather low but still playable around 30-45fps in some games on a 2560x1440 monitor. My friend is a guy who likes high fps and does notice a difference at lower frames. I guess my question is what do you guys think? Is 2560x1440 worth the performance hit? I know his 7970 can push out more then 60fps on 1920x1080 and thats why he wants a 120hz monitor. Thoughts please?

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November 1, 2012 5:47:23 AM

Compromise and get a 1920x1200. The 1440p would be awesome, but I would hate to play a game at 30-45fps. For me, I want a card to handle 60+fps on a 1080p @60Hz. If I were to use a 2560x1440 then I'd use 2 GPUs. A 7970 is already a beast, and will handle most games at great fps, except battlefield 3.
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November 1, 2012 5:58:15 AM

Response Rate

The response rate of an LCD monitor refers to how quickly each pixel on the screen can change color. The lower the response rate, the faster the screen updates. If you are playing fast-paced action game for example, where the images change quickly, if you're playing on a monitor with a slower response rate, you may experience what is known as "ghosting". Ghosting happens when the previous image displayed on the screen can still be seen as a blur for moments after the image has changed.

When choosing the best gaming monitor, the response rate is perhaps the single most important factor to consider. Ghosting and motion blur can ruin your overall gaming experience. The faster the response rate of your monitor, the less ghosting you will see.

I would say that an LCD with a response rate of 5ms is the minimum for gaming. Lower than 5ms is better of course (remember that the lower, the faster), and the very best gaming monitors on the market have extremely fast response rates such as 2ms and lower to avoid any ghosting/blur issues completely.


LED vs LCD Monitors

LED monitors are the exact same as LCD monitors, except they use LED backlighting which provides some advantages such as a brighter and sharper display, thinner screen, and lower power usage.

LED monitors currently cost a little more than a standard LCD, but if you want the best gaming monitor then I would definitely suggest you buy one. If not, a standard LCD monitor with a good response rate will do just fine.


What Size Monitor?

Ultimately, the size you go for is totally up to you and how much you're willing to spend. Obviously the larger the screen, the more expensive it will be, but for the best gaming monitor experience I would suggest at least 19", and go for a widescreen LCD if you can. Nothing beats gaming on a nice, decent-sized widescreen monitor.

If you want the most immersive gaming experience possible and you have the money to spend, go for a quality 23" or 24" screen, or even 25" and above. After gaming on such a massive screen you won't ever want to go back to a smaller screen!


Contrast Ratio

The contrast ratio of a monitor can be a helpful spec to generally compare picture quality between different monitors. In general, the higher the contrast ratio, the better the picture quality.

With high contrast ratios your screen can produce deeper black levels, which creates a more immersive and visually sharp experience. Keep in mind that the contrast ratio isn't always an accurate measure of image quality, so don't use it solely to compare two monitors as there's more to it than that.


Viewing Angle

If you look at an LCD monitor from an angle, you will notice that the image appears dimmer and the colors can look weird. At extreme angles the entire image can even disappear. The viewing angle of an LCD monitor is the angle at which you can still view the screen clearly, and is usually listed in the monitor's specifications list.

The greater the viewing angle, the better, but for gamers the viewing angle doesn't really matter because you are looking directly at the screen the whole time. But there are some people who will consider the viewing angle important, for example if you need to show presentations with your LCD monitor.


Matte vs Glossy Screens There are two kinds of modern LCD screens: matte (anti-glare) and glossy. Both have their pros and cons and are a subject of many discussions.

Matte screens don't get glare or reflections on them; however, the same rough surface (polarizer) that reduces the intensity of reflected light results in less contrast and brightness since the light from the LCD screen has to pass through it. Matte screens diffuse light instead of reflecting it so they might be easier to read outdoors, if the backlight provides enough brightness. You don't have to worry about reflections unlike with a glossy screen. One of the downsides of a strong anti-glare coating in matte displays is a grainy "crystalline" pattern which is mostly visible when viewing text on a white background.

Glossy screens have vibrant colors and high contrast and brightness because they have a smooth, high-gloss surface. As a result, it is often the choice for movies or gaming. However, strong lighting sources in the environment cause glare on these screens which is not only annoying, but can also cause eye strain and pain. If the lighting isn't adequate, you will also see distracting reflections on the screen. Some graphics designers may find the colors inaccurate, although that mostly depends on the LCD matrix. Glossy will work great for you if the lighting in your room doesn't create any glare on the screen. 120Hz
Why a 120Hz Refresh Rate Computer Monitor?
120Hz Vs. 60Hz
120 Hz vs. 60Hz Refresh Rate - Source: BenQBoth response time, the time it takes for a pixel to go from black to white and back again, and input lag, the difference in time that it takes for you to input a command into your computer and see it displayed, are very well-known terms in the gaming community. Few gamers think about the impact that a higher refresh rate will have on their game.

What is Refresh Rate?

Refresh rate is basically the amount of times in a second that a monitor will draw the data which it receives. Most TN and IPS panel monitors have a 60Hz refresh rate. In order to really see all the advantages that come with a 120Hz display you should be gaming at an FPS well above 60.

Benefits of 120Hz:

1. Details are more crisp, smoothly rendered, and lifelike.
2. More Responsive
3. Eliminates Tearing
4. Eliminates the need for V-Sync
Great Gaming Monitors In No Certain Order
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006HIKIG0/ref=as_li_s...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Z75LX0/ref=as_li_s...
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VG278H-27-Inch-Integrated-Sp...
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November 1, 2012 6:03:28 AM

Those are the exact same monitors we are looking at :D  and Do they still make 1920x1200 monitors? I can't cant to find any. They seem really rare
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a b C Monitor
November 1, 2012 6:12:08 AM

Dell makes 1920x1200 monitors still, like the u2410 and u2412 models. Both are IPS displays though, which means you get better color/picture quality, but at something like 6-8ms (run at 60hz). TN monitors don't have quite the same picture quality, but usually run at 2-3ms (5 max).

I don't know of any 1920x1200 120hz monitors off the top of my head though.

As a side note: I have two monitors set up, one is the Dell u2412m and the other is the Asus VE248H. I play games on my Dell and still haven't noticed any tearing or "lag" from the higher ms. You and your friend would have to decide though. I went to Fry's to browse their monitors in person so I'd get a feel for what they looked like, which helped me out a lot.
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November 1, 2012 6:16:39 AM

scubasteve526 said:
Those are the exact same monitors we are looking at :D  and Do they still make 1920x1200 monitors? I can't cant to find any. They seem really rare
They do seem rare i am not to sure if they are still making them or not
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November 1, 2012 7:15:38 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Response Rate

The response rate of an LCD monitor refers to how quickly each pixel on the screen can change color. The lower the response rate, the faster the screen updates. If you are playing fast-paced action game for example, where the images change quickly, if you're playing on a monitor with a slower response rate, you may experience what is known as "ghosting". Ghosting happens when the previous image displayed on the screen can still be seen as a blur for moments after the image has changed.

When choosing the best gaming monitor, the response rate is perhaps the single most important factor to consider. Ghosting and motion blur can ruin your overall gaming experience. The faster the response rate of your monitor, the less ghosting you will see.

I would say that an LCD with a response rate of 5ms is the minimum for gaming. Lower than 5ms is better of course (remember that the lower, the faster), and the very best gaming monitors on the market have extremely fast response rates such as 2ms and lower to avoid any ghosting/blur issues completely.


LED vs LCD Monitors

LED monitors are the exact same as LCD monitors, except they use LED backlighting which provides some advantages such as a brighter and sharper display, thinner screen, and lower power usage.

LED monitors currently cost a little more than a standard LCD, but if you want the best gaming monitor then I would definitely suggest you buy one. If not, a standard LCD monitor with a good response rate will do just fine.


What Size Monitor?

Ultimately, the size you go for is totally up to you and how much you're willing to spend. Obviously the larger the screen, the more expensive it will be, but for the best gaming monitor experience I would suggest at least 19", and go for a widescreen LCD if you can. Nothing beats gaming on a nice, decent-sized widescreen monitor.

If you want the most immersive gaming experience possible and you have the money to spend, go for a quality 23" or 24" screen, or even 25" and above. After gaming on such a massive screen you won't ever want to go back to a smaller screen!


Contrast Ratio

The contrast ratio of a monitor can be a helpful spec to generally compare picture quality between different monitors. In general, the higher the contrast ratio, the better the picture quality.

With high contrast ratios your screen can produce deeper black levels, which creates a more immersive and visually sharp experience. Keep in mind that the contrast ratio isn't always an accurate measure of image quality, so don't use it solely to compare two monitors as there's more to it than that.


Viewing Angle

If you look at an LCD monitor from an angle, you will notice that the image appears dimmer and the colors can look weird. At extreme angles the entire image can even disappear. The viewing angle of an LCD monitor is the angle at which you can still view the screen clearly, and is usually listed in the monitor's specifications list.

The greater the viewing angle, the better, but for gamers the viewing angle doesn't really matter because you are looking directly at the screen the whole time. But there are some people who will consider the viewing angle important, for example if you need to show presentations with your LCD monitor.


Matte vs Glossy Screens There are two kinds of modern LCD screens: matte (anti-glare) and glossy. Both have their pros and cons and are a subject of many discussions.

Matte screens don't get glare or reflections on them; however, the same rough surface (polarizer) that reduces the intensity of reflected light results in less contrast and brightness since the light from the LCD screen has to pass through it. Matte screens diffuse light instead of reflecting it so they might be easier to read outdoors, if the backlight provides enough brightness. You don't have to worry about reflections unlike with a glossy screen. One of the downsides of a strong anti-glare coating in matte displays is a grainy "crystalline" pattern which is mostly visible when viewing text on a white background.

Glossy screens have vibrant colors and high contrast and brightness because they have a smooth, high-gloss surface. As a result, it is often the choice for movies or gaming. However, strong lighting sources in the environment cause glare on these screens which is not only annoying, but can also cause eye strain and pain. If the lighting isn't adequate, you will also see distracting reflections on the screen. Some graphics designers may find the colors inaccurate, although that mostly depends on the LCD matrix. Glossy will work great for you if the lighting in your room doesn't create any glare on the screen. 120Hz
Why a 120Hz Refresh Rate Computer Monitor?
120Hz Vs. 60Hz
120 Hz vs. 60Hz Refresh Rate - Source: BenQBoth response time, the time it takes for a pixel to go from black to white and back again, and input lag, the difference in time that it takes for you to input a command into your computer and see it displayed, are very well-known terms in the gaming community. Few gamers think about the impact that a higher refresh rate will have on their game.

What is Refresh Rate?

Refresh rate is basically the amount of times in a second that a monitor will draw the data which it receives. Most TN and IPS panel monitors have a 60Hz refresh rate. In order to really see all the advantages that come with a 120Hz display you should be gaming at an FPS well above 60.

Benefits of 120Hz:

1. Details are more crisp, smoothly rendered, and lifelike.
2. More Responsive
3. Eliminates Tearing
4. Eliminates the need for V-Sync
Great Gaming Monitors In No Certain Order
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006HIKIG0/ref=as_li_s...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Z75LX0/ref=as_li_s...
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VG278H-27-Inch-Integrated-Sp...

Wow ty for the very detailed response I really appreciate it. I think we will go with one of the 120hz monitors you listed. We looked at the same ones and feel the prices are good for what you get. Thanks dude! :D 
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November 1, 2012 7:23:43 AM

scubasteve526 said:
Wow ty for the very detailed response I really appreciate it. I think we will go with one of the 120hz monitors you listed. We looked at the same ones and feel the prices are good for what you get. Thanks dude! :D 
No problem your welcome bro enjoy!
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November 1, 2012 7:57:25 PM

So i'm guessing in your opinion you think going for a 1920x1080 @120hz monitor is better then 2560x1440 @60hz? When coming from a gaming perspective. This new monitor will be used mainly for gaming and light video watching.
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November 1, 2012 8:57:17 PM

scubasteve526 said:
So i'm guessing in your opinion you think going for a 1920x1080 @120hz monitor is better then 2560x1440 @60hz? When coming from a gaming perspective. This new monitor will be used mainly for gaming and light video watching.
Well it's not so much that i think its better it's just i prefer to play my games with all the eye candy and maxed out settings while still getting solid fps and i am not rich when i had a 2560x1600 it cost me quite a bit well come to find out my 570's were not cutting it or what i expected as i was only getting avg 30- 40fps in games then after testing a couple different friends card i had come to realize to max out games @ that resolution with all the eye candy i needed two 670/680 or two 7970 long story shorts too much money to enjoy gaming at that resolution for me
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November 7, 2012 11:08:15 PM

I see. Yea I totally agree. My friend got the Samsung 120hz monitor with the 3D gimmick and he loves it!
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November 7, 2012 11:08:32 PM

Best answer selected by ScubaSteve526.
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