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December 19, 2012 7:45:06 PM

i've been thinking about building a new pc for a while now, and i've got the money to do so. So i begun to put a little list together for a kind of entry level gaming PC/Film watching thingy (if that makes sense) i dont plan on breaking the bank, but i want something that will do its job well, so bare with me because this may be a bit of a tl;dr moment for you guys :p  the case, hard drive and the OS can come at a later date.
Parts (if you want links just ask) Im shopping at a UK vendor called Overclockers UK.

Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 micro ATX Motherboard

AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit

Crucial V4 32GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive ( using primarily as storage, but boot drive when i buy win7)

What i'm getting at a later date:

In-Win BUC 101 Midi Tower Case

Corsair Builder Series CW 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply

Ok, so theres the parts. Something ive been wondering is, that the ram is compatible with the motherboard? ive gone for DDR3 1600mhz because thats what the gigabyte website said is compatible, but does the DDR3 type have different pin sizes?

The cpu because it can run BF3 on high settings apparently, i can link the Youtube video if needed :) 

The ram because its a nice size for me, such as light youtube rendering, 3d animations and what not.

Now is the PSU big enough to handle everything above do you think? ive heard good things about Corsair branded PSU's so it wont cut out on me, or break my stuff right?

Now give me your honest opinion on the parts above :) 

Thanks!

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December 19, 2012 7:50:31 PM

Not many people build gaming machines using integrated GPUs. If there is any way you can add a video card (even a modern basic card will be better than integrated graphics)? If you do, then I would get a more powerful PSU, like a 500w.
December 19, 2012 7:52:52 PM

How does the overall build sound though? :) 

would a 600w be overkill?

Im thinking of buying a graphics card at a later date, just not sure which one, because ive heard of "bottlenecking"
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December 19, 2012 7:58:13 PM

For 5800k you want to have a 1866 MHz ram, as it is better for graphic performance.
Kingston hyper-x or predator series pop to mind.
That PSU is fine.
Seema like you're on a budget, so i'd go for A75 Mobo. What is your budget anyway?
I'm kinda sure that video was bf3 on low not on high :D 
I'd just drop 30 GB ssd, as it seems pointless to me just top fill it up with OS and not be able to put a few games. On saved money you can get better case.
December 19, 2012 8:12:23 PM

butremor said:
For 5800k you want to have a 1866 MHz ram, as it is better for graphic performance.
Kingston hyper-x or predator series pop to mind.
That PSU is fine.
Seema like you're on a budget, so i'd go for A75 Mobo. What is your budget anyway?
I'm kinda sure that video was bf3 on low not on high :D 
I'd just drop 30 GB ssd, as it seems pointless to me just top fill it up with OS and not be able to put a few games. On saved money you can get better case.


My budget is around the £400 mark, but ill go over if needed :) 
December 19, 2012 8:20:53 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£86.39 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£48.73 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£38.70 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.96 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.06 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£35.32 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£13.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £314.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-19 22:20 GMT+0000)
December 19, 2012 8:37:41 PM

butremor said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£86.39 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£48.73 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£38.70 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.96 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.06 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£35.32 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£13.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £314.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-19 22:20 GMT+0000)


Thanks :D  just out of interest, how did you generate that?

The PSU im getting is safe to know that it'll run everything fine :)  i may purchase the one you listed though, the HDD ive got a few SATA drives lying around at home, so ill probably skip it for now, ive got 2 pc's worth of parts (Old old machines though, both on intel core 2 duo's) so i can get the disc drives from them. i've got a case to keep me going until i find one :)  the case you isnt really my style :D  sorry! the case i have now, is working ok, minus the front door bit, and the PCI slot covers on the case missing :)  but thanks, ive saved a copy of the list and im gonna see how much it all comes to minus the case, HDD and the DVD drive.

Based on the parts you and i have listed, do you think it would make a good machine for games? once ive got a dedicated GPU that is.

EDIT- ive worked it out around the £209.14 mark if i havent missed anything out :) 
December 19, 2012 8:47:40 PM

Just click on "PCPartPicker part list", there's whole site behind it.


For me it kinda doesnt make sense to buy cpu with igpu, to add another gpu later.
I must say intel would be a better alternative now. Here's the build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£81.65 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£60.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£90.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£43.33 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £326.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-19 22:45 GMT+0000)

And here's link to compare 5800k and i3:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=677
December 19, 2012 8:59:32 PM

butremor said:
Just click on "PCPartPicker part list", there's whole site behind it.


For me it kinda doesnt make sense to buy cpu with igpu, to add another gpu later.
I must say intel would be a better alternative now. Here's the build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£81.65 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£60.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£90.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£43.33 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £326.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-19 22:45 GMT+0000)

And here's link to compare 5800k and i3:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=677


ahh thanks :) 

hmm, i may be turning towards an i3 after seeing the benchmarks :/  would the i5 be any more expensive? or is there much difference between i3>i5?
December 19, 2012 9:13:58 PM

You said entry level gaming right? You're better off spending money on gpu then i5 imo
December 19, 2012 9:22:10 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor (£81.65 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£60.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.19 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£155.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£43.33 @ Ebuyer)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £391.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-19 23:21 GMT+0000)
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