7870 problems??

[Boxedin123]

Hey i bought a 7870 twin frozer a couple weeks ago and i feel like im not getting the performance i should be getting......LIKE.....40 fps on gta 4 maxed out (25 about 60% of the time ) sometimes as low as 15fps :/

Could it be a bottleneck or a power problem??
CPUhenom x4 3.2ghz
power supply:550w

Is it just not that much of an improvement from a gtx 560 (my old card).
Thanks!!
-Boxedin123

 

[Limerick]

GTA 4 is just poorly coded. That's why you're receiving such poor fps. It's not the card it's the game. My crossfire 7950's were only just getting 60fps on that game lol. And sometimes it never used the second card.

 

[Guest]

GTA 4 is just poorly coded. That's why you're receiving such poor fps. It's not the card it's the game. My crossfire 7950's were only just getting 60fps on that game lol. And sometimes it never used the second card.

+1

 

[paddys09]

Yea its more than likely your CPU power, lower your draw distance and graphic detail to its default and you should be getting normal FPS...If you look at your GPU load its probably only around 50-60%

If you set draw distance to 100 and fly staright up in a heli, you'll notice its practically rendered the whole map, its not really necessary and you can see why it puts so much stress on the CPU

 

[Boxedin123]

soooooo my cpu is the problem???......i was looking at the x6.....how is my power supply??

 

[Limerick]

Yea its more than likely your CPU power, lower your draw distance and graphic detail to its default and you should be getting normal FPS...If you look at your GPU load its probably only around 50-60%

If you set draw distance to 100 and fly staright up in a heli, you'll notice its practically rendered the whole map, its not really necessary and you can see why it puts so much stress on the CPU

I think it's more likely the game. My 7950s were only pulling 60fps on it and I have an i7-2700K overclocked to 4.1GHz. That's really low for my setup.

 

[Guest]

And x6 is an FX series if I'm correct from memory. DON"T GO WITH THE FX SERIES FOR GAMING I DID AND IT WAS A BIG MISTAKE. But I also have the 4100. Most games don't use 6 cores though. THey use 2 to 4. An intel would be better but if it's not in your budget just stick with your old cpu. It's fine. Just GTAIV was terrible optimised

 

[paddys09]

Yes and no, very few systems can really max out those settings, the x6 will certainly do a bit better...You can max it out pretty much just leave those settings alone..

The PSU is fine in terms of output, whats the make and model?

 

[Limerick]

soooooo my cpu is the problem???......i was looking at the x6.....how is my power supply??

Your psu is good for just a single 7870. And the the Phenon II x6? That's a good cpu for the price.

 

[paddys09]

I think it's more likely the game. My 7950s were only pulling 60fps on it and I have an i7-2700K overclocked to 4.1GHz. That's really low for my setup.

With recent patches I think the coding has improved alot and the game runs as it should, people just don't realise what effect setting draw distance to 100 has, the 2600k is alot better than a phenom2 x4

Like I said look at your GPU load and I guarantee most of the stress was on your CPU

 

[Boxedin123]

my psu is a ultra 550w atx power supply....and i wouyld never think of buying an FX

 

[Boxedin123]

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[bawchicawawa]

gta 4 is your problem, not your setup.

 

[paddys09]

Ultra isnt a great brand but its your call, it is specd to be able to handle the 7870 but the components are probably a bit cheap

 

[paddys09]

gta 4 is your problem, not your setup.

It really isn't, If you have ARMA II, play that and set your view distance to 10000 and youll be having exactly the same issues....

Ive never tested it but if you played GTA4 with a 2gb 560se and a 3960x im sure you could max it out at 60fps all day long, it doesnt take much of a graphics card to run it

 

[Guest]

It really isn't, If you have ARMA II, play that and set your view distance to 10000 and youll be having exactly the same issues....

Ive never tested it but if you played GTA4 with a 2gb 560se and a 3960x im sure you could max it out at 60fps all day long, it doesnt take much of a graphics card to run it

I disagree. Like paddys09 said earlier. His i7 7950 xfire setup can only get 60 frames. The game had bad optimization. That is the problem.

 

[paddys09]

That was my point, if he took his xfire 7950's out and replaced it with a 2gb 6870, then I guarantee he would be getting exactly the same FPS...The 2600k was his limitation...

The game was poorly optimized when it was released, but it runs fine on modern systems these days

 

[Guest]

I doubt that. Obviously you'll get better frames with an i7. But it shouldn't drasticly effect the frames that much.

 

[paddys09]

I doubt that. Obviously you'll get better frames with an i7. But it shouldn't drasticly effect the frames that much.

I give up!

So you are sayin that it runs better on an xbox? that has the draw distance and graphic detail set at practically zero all @ 720p

Or on the PS3? that traded resolution (runs @ 640p) for some extra graphic detail and not much at that

 

[Guest]

I give up!

So you are sayin that it runs better on an xbox? that has the draw distance and graphic detail set at practically zero all @ 720p

Or on the PS3? that traded resolution (runs @ 640p) for some extra graphic detail and not much at that

no

 

[paddys09]

Cool, sorry that "poorly optimized" argument really cuts through me sometimes :lol:

It really does take a lot of CPU power to render out massive areas like that with moving vehicles and peds, even by todays standard...

Like I said with all the patches I think the game runs as it should when you compare it to other games that allow you to completely adjust view/draw distance