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I3-3220 + GTX 660 VS i5-3470 + HD 7850

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November 2, 2012 9:29:56 AM

Hello everybody, i will be building my very first pc in about 2-3 weeks time and i am debating which combination i should get for my system, because the GTX 660 2GB is better than the HD 7850 1GB, but in order to balance my budget i have to downgrade my i5 to an i3, is it worth the change?
Basically my question is should i get an i3+GTX660 2GB or an i5+HD7850 1GB? is there a huge difference between 1GB and 2GB on a gpu?

Thanks in advance.

More about : 3220 gtx 660 3470 7850

a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:25:41 AM

The difference in vram is visible when playing at resolutions above 1080p. Then it's recommended that you have at least 2GB. As for the processor, the i5 is quite a bit more powerful than the i3, as seen here:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

So if you're not playing on a 30" monitor, I'd suggest going for the i5+7850 combo.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:28:10 AM

Oh, and another thing- I checked real quick and the 2GB 7850 is $60 more expensive than the 1GB, so if you could save up just a bit more that would be the ideal solution.
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November 2, 2012 10:36:40 AM

I am going to be playing on a 23'' LG TV, i don't know what resolution it is, what is the normal resolution for a 23'' tv? and is a 1GB enough for 1920x1080 resolution?
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:41:33 AM

HDTVs are usually 1920x1080. And yeah, 1 gig usually enough. I have a GTX 560 1GB and it crunches through anything. I was able to play BF3 on high-ultra with 35-45 fps. Haven't tried multiplayer though. But you should be fine, considering the i5 is almost twice as fast as my processor.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:41:37 AM

^Probably not. Not anymore, at least.

Normal resolution for a 23" TV could be anything. I have a 30" TV that has a native 1366x768 over VGA and 720p over HDMI.

But then i'm not in the US.

What games do you play?
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:42:20 AM

^My comment was a reply to the OP
November 2, 2012 10:42:44 AM

I play games like Skyrim, Dishonoured, Sleeping dog, GTA IV, and maybe Battlefield 3.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:44:07 AM

I would actually suggest getting the i3-3220 & GTX 660 combo instead. You will almost always be bottlenecked by your GPU rather than your CPU regarding gaming.

Basically, as regards gaming, the i3-3220 is more than enough at 1080p
If you're going to be doing other things like video rendering and CPU-heavy applications like that, then the i5 would be a more viable option, otherwise, the i3 is fine.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:46:46 AM

Then 2GB might be a better idea.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:49:05 AM

rene13cross said:
I would actually suggest getting the i3-3220 & GTX 660 combo instead. You will almost always be bottlenecked by your GPU rather than your CPU regarding gaming.

Basically, as regards gaming, the i3-3220 is more than enough at 1080p
If you're going to be doing other things like video rendering and CPU-heavy applications like that, then the i5 would be a more viable option, otherwise, the i3 is fine.

Not really for the games he's listed.
Skyrim, GTA IV, BF3 multi are all CPU bottle-necked to an extent.

Not too sure about sleeping dogs. It seemed to be GPU bottlenecked on mine.

But yeah at 1080p i think it's more likely to be a GPU bottleneck with a 660.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:49:30 AM

The GTX 660 has 2GB or VRAM, so there's no discussion regarding memory if you're getting that card.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:51:59 AM

in MMO you need a quad core cpu like BF3 is perfect example you need a good gpu & cpu
November 2, 2012 10:52:31 AM

So which should i go with? i3+GTX 660 2GB or i5+7850 1GB? its so hard to decide arrggh!
a c 191 U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:54:42 AM

Sret43rg said:
I play games like Skyrim, Dishonoured, Sleeping dog, GTA IV, and maybe Battlefield 3.

Some of these games benefit from CPU power (e.g. Skyrim and BF3 multiplayer, and I believe also GTA IV). In every case, any problem from a weak GPU is easily alleviated by turning down a setting or two. A weak CPU may not be as easily "fixed." In the screen shots of today's MoH analysis, even "medium" looks pretty good, and I thought "high" looked a little better than "ultra." I've felt the same way about other recent game reviews. "UltraSuperMaxOhWOW" settings are not required to enjoy games.
The HD7850 is considerably stronger than auntarie's GTX560, and apparently she is able to play her games just fine with it.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:56:08 AM

Do you play a lot of BF3 MP? If not, then I reckon it'll be a more worthwhile investment getting the i3+660(or 7970 I might mention, same price, more OC headroom).

I agree, Skyrim is CPU intensive but the i3 will still fish out very good framerates and I don't think that one CPU intensive game should merrit the need for spending much more on an i5 and skimming on the GPU.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:57:12 AM
















*That's BF3, MoH Single player
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:58:04 AM

Onus said:
Some of these games benefit from CPU power (e.g. Skyrim and BF3 multiplayer, and I believe also GTA IV). In every case, any problem from a weak GPU is easily alleviated by turning down a setting or two. A weak CPU may not be as easily "fixed." In the screen shots of today's MoH analysis, even "medium" looks pretty good, and I thought "high" looked a little better than "ultra." I've felt the same way about other recent game reviews. "UltraSuperMaxOhWOW" settings are not required to enjoy games.
The HD7850 is considerably stronger than auntarie's GTX560, and apparently she is able to play her games just fine with it.


^this. Also, I'm a "he", dude/dudette :D 
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 10:59:47 AM

I think, i3 + 660 for 1080p, for less the i5 and 7850.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:00:57 AM

OP should really start a poll, both combos are pretty good, but everybody has their opinions and this is getting us nowhere...
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:01:41 AM

ojas said:
I think, i3 + 660 for 1080p, for less the i5 and 7850.


Totally agree.
November 2, 2012 11:05:53 AM

Get the 7850 + I5 Combo its much more balanced and will last a lot longer than I3 combo.

Dual cores for gaming is just a bad idea if you can avoid it.

Also theres not a huge performance increase to get 660 over a 7850 considering how much more a 660 costs verus 7850.

PS you can Farcry 3 with your purchase of 7850 if that sweetens the deal for you at all.
November 2, 2012 11:05:59 AM

Sorry i am fairly new to the forums, how do i start a poll?
November 2, 2012 11:09:27 AM

williamjuly2003 said:
Get the 7850 + I5 Combo its much more balanced and will last a lot longer than I3 combo.

Dual cores for gaming is just a bad idea if you can avoid it.

Also theres not a huge performance increase to get 660 over a 7850 considering how much more a 660 costs verus 7850.

PS you can Farcry 3 with your purchase of 7850 if that sweetens the deal for you at all.


You also need to take into account that the GTX 660 is 2GB and the 7850 is 1GB.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:09:53 AM

Sret43rg said:
Sorry i am fairly new to the forums, how do i start a poll?


When you start a new thread you have three tabs in the top left, one of them is a poll.
November 2, 2012 11:13:16 AM

Sret43rg said:
You also need to take into account that the GTX 660 is 2GB and the 7850 is 1GB.



You do realize you can grab a 7850 2GB from newegg for 185.00 Dollars right? Even less if you do MIR for 175.
November 2, 2012 11:13:30 AM

So i need to create a new thread?
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:15:12 AM

I'll always suggest a faster GPU over a faster CPU to gamers as long as the CPU doesn't bottleneck the GPU.And NO! the i3 3220 doesn't bottleneck a gtx 660.
So you'll get the best experience in games with your i3 combo.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:17:13 AM

williamjuly2003 said:
You do realize you can grab a 7850 2GB from newegg for 185.00 Dollars right? Even less if you do MIR for 175.

there is but the price you're mentioning is that of a 1gb card.A 2gb one costs similar to a 660.
November 2, 2012 11:18:56 AM

And by the way i am from the UK unfortunately..
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:21:14 AM

^ doesn't matter.I never recommend such brands. :) 
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:24:40 AM

PowerColor aren't that bad. We've had more complaints from Gigabyte or Gainward on the forums than we've had from PowerColor.
November 2, 2012 11:25:15 AM

Anik8 said:
^ doesn't matter.I never recommend such brands. :) 


Just own up to fact that you were wrong. :non: 
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:26:59 AM

@williamjuly
If you're going for branging rights,then clap clap n cheers for you.
But I'll always suggest the best product and powercolor is crap
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:28:11 AM

auntarie said:
PowerColor aren't that bad. We've had more complaints from Gigabyte or Gainward on the forums than we've had from PowerColor.

Agreed. But regardless, OP said he was in the UK. Prices will be different.
November 2, 2012 11:29:42 AM

I have started a poll in the same section. Go and vote guys! :D 
November 2, 2012 11:31:52 AM

I am suprised by Gigabyte a lot of people seem to like there higher end cards.

Also why are people saying that 7850 and 660 are similar in price when they aren't really at all.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:35:55 AM

Link to poll??
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 11:35:57 AM

The reference gigabyte cards are good.The factory OC'd cards they offer come with problems.
a c 191 U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 12:37:33 PM

auntarie said:
^this. Also, I'm a "he", dude/dudette :D 


Sorry! I will assume then, that English is not your native language, as I can hardly imagine a guy using "aunt" in his handle; an "aunt" is the name given to a parent's sister (an "uncle" is the parent's brother).
FWIW, I am an uncle; my brother and sister each have three kids.


At 1080p, I can hardly imagine where a HD7850 will be insufficient. I CAN imagine where a GTX660 might be though, in the future. Current games don't rely on GPU compute performance, but what if a future game does? The Kepler cards are crippled in this department. If a future game or application needed that, you'd be hosed.
Is a HD7870 in your budget? That's another viable choice.
a b U Graphics card
November 2, 2012 12:44:44 PM

Quote:
Sorry! I will assume then, that English is not your native language, as I can hardly imagine a guy using "aunt" in his handle; an "aunt" is the name given to a parent's sister (an "uncle" is the parent's brother).
FWIW, I am an uncle; my brother and sister each have three kids.


Yeah, I'm not from an english speaking country, but my name doesn't have anything to do with family (it's long story how I thought of it). In fact, this is the first time I've noticed that I have "aunt" in my nick, I've never thought of it like that before :D 
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