Need Help Fellow Gamers

[ThaxMessiahx]

Hello,
Ive been a console gamer all my life and want to switch to pc.Steam deals on games has won me over also to make the switch to pc.I need help finding the cheapest components to have a decent gaming pc all i will be doing is gaming only and web browsing simple stuff.

 

[tiny voices]

What is your budget?

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

$300-400

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

What is your budget?

$300-400

 

[tiny voices]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $406.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-20 15:58 EST-0500)

This should play most modern games on medium and games a year or 2 old on high settings.

 

[djangoringo]

For that kind of thing it's always the best having a better gpu :


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($130.49 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $404.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

or if you can spend more :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($41.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $410.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $406.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-20 15:58 EST-0500)

This should play most modern games on medium and games a year or 2 old on high settings.

thanks i watched some vids on youtube for the amd phenom II BE quad core and it played battlefield 3 really good how long u think the phenom will last me tell i need to upgrade?

 

[tiny voices]

If you want to play battlefield I would definitely go for the 965BE. IT should last another 2 years or so before the newer mid range GPU's will begin to be bottlenecked. Anything at your budget will only make it a year or 2 before it needs to be upgraded to keep up. I have a 965BE and when overlocked (which this chip does well) won't bottleneck and modern mid-high end cards. A 7870 would run just fine with one.

 

[djangoringo]

The pentium G860 doesn't bottleneck the 7850, a pentium G860 + 7850> x4 965 + 7770


See here a guide for your wallet :


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364.html

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

For that kind of thing it's always the best having a better gpu :


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($130.49 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $404.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

or if you can spend more :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($41.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $410.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

thanks which would give me better stable fps amd phenom or pentium?? or its all bout gpu??

 

[djangoringo]

It's the gpu.
7850 is the best.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-10.html

 

[tiny voices]

The GPU does matter the most. Most of the time its 90% GPU and 10% CPU. Some games like battlefield and skyrim use more CPU than other games. Battlefield is one particular game where a 965BE will shine noticeably over a pentium.

 

[djangoringo]

No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

i see a amd vs intel will begin lol

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.

do u have any vids on youtube??

 

[DarkSable]

No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.

Wait, uhm, you think a 7850 can play BF3 on ultra?

Yet another stunning example of ignorance... The quad core is going to flatten the dual core in multiplayer, hands down.

He's also not looking to play on ultra settings anyways, and is probably going to be playing on a 720p HDTV anyways... giving the Phenom II even more of an advantage.

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

Wait, uhm, you think a 7850 can play BF3 on ultra?

Yet another stunning example of ignorance... The quad core is going to flatten the dual core in multiplayer, hands down.

He's also not looking to play on ultra settings anyways, and is probably going to be playing on a 720p HDTV anyways... giving the Phenom II even more of an advantage.

i just want to play any game thats interest me and decent fps and resolution this rig will just be a starter rig lol cause i still need to learn more

 

[DarkSable]

i just want to play any game thats interest me and decent fps and resolution this rig will just be a starter rig lol cause i still need to learn more

Exactly what we're saying - you'll get better performance out of a balanced rig in this case.

What resolution is the monitor / tv you'll be using? That's the main dictator of what graphics card you'll need.

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

Exactly what we're saying - you'll get better performance out of a balanced rig in this case.

What resolution is the monitor / tv you'll be using? That's the main dictator of what graphics card you'll need.

at least 720p if lower res thats fine too...

 

[DarkSable]

You won't need lower - that'll be handled pretty easily with a 7770.

The best option is to go a little above budget and get a Phenom II AND a 7850, but if not, I highly, highly recommend getting the Phenom II - the quad core is going to help a lot, especially in BF3.

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

You won't need lower - that'll be handled pretty easily with a 7770.

The best option is to go a little above budget and get a Phenom II AND a 7850, but if not, I highly, highly recommend getting the Phenom II - the quad core is going to help a lot, especially in BF3.

ok thats kool do u have a steam account??

 

[djangoringo]

The 7850 is much better, and can play 1080p(actually it's 1920x1200) ultra :

26 fps for 7770 (not playable), ~40 fps for 7850(playable)
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif

And overclocked : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/perf_oc.gif

Even at 720p the 7770 doesn't get 60 fps, the 7850 get 60 fps...

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/bf3_1280_800.gif

Crysis 2 : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/crysis2_1280_800.gif @ 720

Metro 2033 : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/metro_2033_1280_800.gif

The Pentium G860 is better cpu for gaming also.


See this :


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364.html

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

The 7850 is much better, and can play 1080p(actually it's 1920x1200) ultra :

26 fps for 7770 (not playable), ~40 fps for 7850(playable)
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif

And overclocked : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/perf_oc.gif

Even at 720p the 7770 doesn't get 60 fps, the 7850 get 60 fps...

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/bf3_1280_800.gif

Crysis 2 : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/crysis2_1280_800.gif @ 720

Metro 2033 : http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/images/metro_2033_1280_800.gif

The Pentium G860 is better cpu for gaming also.


See this :


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364.html

yea im going to get the 7850 card cpu i need to research more on the pentium on youtube i seen the phenom 965 play really good with 7850 card...ill look over your info i still havent picked a cpu yet

 

[DarkSable]

I never said the 7850 wasn't better... of course it is. But, as an aside, the only 7770 on that list of yours was a mobile chip. Of course that wouldn't get good framerates.

As for the processors, the reason I'm pushing the Phenom II is because it is a quad core, and on games such as BF3 MULTIPLAYER, which is the only one the OP has mentioned, that fact will help a LOT.

 

[ThaxMessiahx]

I never said the 7850 wasn't better... of course it is. But, as an aside, the only 7770 on that list of yours was a mobile chip. Of course that wouldn't get good framerates.

As for the processors, the reason I'm pushing the Phenom II is because it is a quad core, and on games such as BF3 MULTIPLAYER, which is the only one the OP has mentioned, that fact will help a LOT.

i forgot to mention how good will the phenom 965 be able to run arma2??