Need Help Fellow Gamers

Hello,
Ive been a console gamer all my life and want to switch to pc.Steam deals on games has won me over also to make the switch to pc.I need help finding the cheapest components to have a decent gaming pc all i will be doing is gaming only and web browsing simple stuff.
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  1. What is your budget?
  2. $300-400
  3. tiny voices said:
    What is your budget?

    $300-400
  4. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $406.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-20 15:58 EST-0500)

    This should play most modern games on medium and games a year or 2 old on high settings.
  5. For that kind of thing it's always the best having a better gpu :


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($130.49 @ Amazon)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $404.38
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

    or if you can spend more :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($41.97 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $410.86
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
  6. tiny voices said:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $406.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-20 15:58 EST-0500)

    This should play most modern games on medium and games a year or 2 old on high settings.

    thanks i watched some vids on youtube for the amd phenom II BE quad core and it played battlefield 3 really good how long u think the phenom will last me tell i need to upgrade?
  7. If you want to play battlefield I would definitely go for the 965BE. IT should last another 2 years or so before the newer mid range GPU's will begin to be bottlenecked. Anything at your budget will only make it a year or 2 before it needs to be upgraded to keep up. I have a 965BE and when overlocked (which this chip does well) won't bottleneck and modern mid-high end cards. A 7870 would run just fine with one.
  8. The pentium G860 doesn't bottleneck the 7850, a pentium G860 + 7850> x4 965 + 7770


    See here a guide for your wallet :


    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364.html
  9. djangoringo said:
    For that kind of thing it's always the best having a better gpu :


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($130.49 @ Amazon)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $404.38
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

    or if you can spend more :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($41.97 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $410.86
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

    thanks which would give me better stable fps amd phenom or pentium?? or its all bout gpu??
  10. The GPU does matter the most. Most of the time its 90% GPU and 10% CPU. Some games like battlefield and skyrim use more CPU than other games. Battlefield is one particular game where a 965BE will shine noticeably over a pentium.
  11. No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.
  12. i see a amd vs intel will begin lol
  13. djangoringo said:
    No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.



    do u have any vids on youtube??
  14. djangoringo said:
    No, not skyrim and no, battlefield 3 will depend on the card, a 7770 is barely playable on 1080p whatever the cpu is used, a 7850 IS playable at ultra 1080p.


    Wait, uhm, you think a 7850 can play BF3 on ultra?

    Yet another stunning example of ignorance... The quad core is going to flatten the dual core in multiplayer, hands down.

    He's also not looking to play on ultra settings anyways, and is probably going to be playing on a 720p HDTV anyways... giving the Phenom II even more of an advantage.
  15. DarkSable said:
    Wait, uhm, you think a 7850 can play BF3 on ultra?

    Yet another stunning example of ignorance... The quad core is going to flatten the dual core in multiplayer, hands down.

    He's also not looking to play on ultra settings anyways, and is probably going to be playing on a 720p HDTV anyways... giving the Phenom II even more of an advantage.



    i just want to play any game thats interest me and decent fps and resolution this rig will just be a starter rig lol cause i still need to learn more
  16. ThaxMessiahx said:
    i just want to play any game thats interest me and decent fps and resolution this rig will just be a starter rig lol cause i still need to learn more


    Exactly what we're saying - you'll get better performance out of a balanced rig in this case.

    What resolution is the monitor / tv you'll be using? That's the main dictator of what graphics card you'll need.
  17. DarkSable said:
    Exactly what we're saying - you'll get better performance out of a balanced rig in this case.

    What resolution is the monitor / tv you'll be using? That's the main dictator of what graphics card you'll need.



    at least 720p if lower res thats fine too...
  18. You won't need lower - that'll be handled pretty easily with a 7770.

    The best option is to go a little above budget and get a Phenom II AND a 7850, but if not, I highly, highly recommend getting the Phenom II - the quad core is going to help a lot, especially in BF3.
  19. DarkSable said:
    You won't need lower - that'll be handled pretty easily with a 7770.

    The best option is to go a little above budget and get a Phenom II AND a 7850, but if not, I highly, highly recommend getting the Phenom II - the quad core is going to help a lot, especially in BF3.



    ok thats kool do u have a steam account??
  20. djangoringo said:



    yea im going to get the 7850 card cpu i need to research more on the pentium on youtube i seen the phenom 965 play really good with 7850 card...ill look over your info i still havent picked a cpu yet
  21. I never said the 7850 wasn't better... of course it is. But, as an aside, the only 7770 on that list of yours was a mobile chip. Of course that wouldn't get good framerates.

    As for the processors, the reason I'm pushing the Phenom II is because it is a quad core, and on games such as BF3 MULTIPLAYER, which is the only one the OP has mentioned, that fact will help a LOT.
  22. DarkSable said:
    I never said the 7850 wasn't better... of course it is. But, as an aside, the only 7770 on that list of yours was a mobile chip. Of course that wouldn't get good framerates.

    As for the processors, the reason I'm pushing the Phenom II is because it is a quad core, and on games such as BF3 MULTIPLAYER, which is the only one the OP has mentioned, that fact will help a LOT.



    i forgot to mention how good will the phenom 965 be able to run arma2??
  23. At 720p?

    You should be able to run a mix of medium and high settings and still do just fine.
  24. DarkSable said:
    At 720p?

    You should be able to run a mix of medium and high settings and still do just fine.


    not bad... is metro 2033 a demanding game ill prob play that also mmo's i guess shouldnt be a issue
  25. DarkSable said:
    I never said the 7850 wasn't better... of course it is. But, as an aside, the only 7770 on that list of yours was a mobile chip. Of course that wouldn't get good framerates.

    As for the processors, the reason I'm pushing the Phenom II is because it is a quad core, and on games such as BF3 MULTIPLAYER, which is the only one the OP has mentioned, that fact will help a LOT.



    It wasn't a 7770 mobile, it was a 7770, did you see the m on it ?, techpowerup only compares desktop cards, get it straight.

    The Pentium G860 is better cpu for gaming, faster cores, and he can upgrade latter on for a i5 ivybridge.
    And when he does that, it blows out of the water any amd cpu has to offer.

    See here the Pentium G850 vs x4 965 be : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/404?vs=102

    See toms hardware recommendation for less 100$ cpu for gaming : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.html

    In games it's better than the 965, and that's the 850, not the 860 which is slightly better.
  26. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss7DSTU9BPk


    this link making me in favor of amd
  27. djangoringo said:
    It wasn't a 7770 mobile, it was a 7770, did you see the m on it ?, techpowerup only compares desktop cards, get it straight.

    The Pentium G860 is better cpu for gaming, faster cores, and he can upgrade latter on for a i5 ivybridge.
    And when he does that, it blows out of the water any amd cpu has to offer.



    u no any vids on youtube thats shows pentium g860 gaming with 7850 card??
  28. Toms hardware test it with the G860 and a 7850 :

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-10.html

    They wouldn't lie :

    We already determined that an overclocked GeForce GTX 560 or GTX 560 Ti is the lowest-end card you'd want to play through Battlefield 3's single-player campaign at 1680x1050 using the Ultra quality preset. Last quarter, we picked up about 15%-higher frame rates from our graphics card overclock, but that still wasn't enough to make 1920x1080 viable.

    Our current PC is 20% faster at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080. And, after a run through of the demanding “Operation Guillotine” level, we're calling it playable at our highest test settings, even if there were brief drops down into the mid-20 to low-30 FPS.

    Thankfully, we didn’t need to settle for borderline playability. In story form, we had barely begun to tap the Radeon HD 7850's full potential. Using last quarter's stock machine as our baseline, we squeezed 50%-higher frame rates (on average) out of the four tested resolutions. More important, the gains were greater-than-50% at the two resolutions most interesting to us. At 1920x1080, performance during “Operation Guillotine” rarely dipped below 40 FPS!
  29. Also take in mind that you can upgrade latter to an i5 ivybridge which is better than the amd options for upgrade.
    The intel offers i5 or i7 ivybridge.
    The amd the FX series which don't stand for the intel cpus.

    Also this with a pentium G620+7850 (the cpu is far inferior to the 860) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlXYqHEUKk
  30. djangoringo said:
    Toms hardware test it with the G860 and a 7850 :

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it-yourself-computer,3364-10.html

    They wouldn't lie :

    We already determined that an overclocked GeForce GTX 560 or GTX 560 Ti is the lowest-end card you'd want to play through Battlefield 3's single-player campaign at 1680x1050 using the Ultra quality preset. Last quarter, we picked up about 15%-higher frame rates from our graphics card overclock, but that still wasn't enough to make 1920x1080 viable.

    Our current PC is 20% faster at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080. And, after a run through of the demanding “Operation Guillotine” level, we're calling it playable at our highest test settings, even if there were brief drops down into the mid-20 to low-30 FPS.

    Thankfully, we didn’t need to settle for borderline playability. In story form, we had barely begun to tap the Radeon HD 7850's full potential. Using last quarter's stock machine as our baseline, we squeezed 50%-higher frame rates (on average) out of the four tested resolutions. More important, the gains were greater-than-50% at the two resolutions most interesting to us. At 1920x1080, performance during “Operation Guillotine” rarely dipped below 40 FPS!



    ill read info u just linked me..i always here intel processors are more powerful then amd is it true??
  31. Yes.

    Here's some gameplay with a 7850 and a pentium G620(which is worse, the 860 is better).
    It's mp and its settings are ultra.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlXYqHEUKk
  32. djangoringo said:
    Yes.

    Here's some gameplay with a 7850 and a pentium G620(which is worse, the 860 is better).
    It's mp and its settings are ultra.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAlXYqHEUKk



    ill check it out do u have a steam name??
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