Help !

[johno96]

Hi im new to computing and i just wanted to get a second opinion on a Gaming pc that mt friends have suggested
And just wanted to know will this run games on high settings or will it struggle Please help me out i dont want to waste my money ?




PSU:AEROCOOL STRIKE X 500w 80+BRONZE
Cpu:QUAD CORE 4.4GHZ 4170
Motherboard:GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB 3
Ram: 8GB
Hard Drive- 1000GB
Graphics Card:-ATI HD 6670 HDMI 2GB
Dvd Drive:Yes
Wifi: PCI

Please Help Need Advice ?

 

[rgd1101]

review of 4170
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-3220-benchmarks,3314.html
review of 6670
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6570-radeon-hd-6670-turks,2925.html

CPU ok. Graphics card weak.

 

[littleleo]

Yes rgd is right the VGA card is not good enough to run good graphic games at the highest settings.

 

[Thomas Creel]

First off, the processor that you selected, the AMD FX-4170 for $104.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=, is clocked at 4.2Ghz. It's a low budget processor and not suited well for graphics intensive games, also when talking about AMD processors you cannot directly relate that to Intel processors, it's equivalent of comparing an apple to an orange.

For better performance at a similar pricing point I suggest the Intel Core i3-3225 for $129.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75430&vpn=BX80637I33225&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1016.

Secondly, The motherboard that you have selected, the GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 for $62.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75286&vpn=GA%2D78LMT%2DUSB3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1286, is a Micro-ATX and is a very low end motherboard. If you are going with my afformentioned processor then you will need a different motherboard to be compatible.

Around the same price, with more features and an ATX form factor, there is the ASRock B75 PRO3 for $82.55 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Thirdly, the graphics card that you have selected, the AMD HD 6670 2GB for $59.99 @http://www.microcenter.com/product/396145/H667FR2G_AMD_Radeon_HD_6670_2048MB_DDR3_PCIe_X16_21_Video_Card, is a low-mid range graphics card and I figure would do fine as a graphics card, in fact in it's price range it has the most memory from what I can see, so keep that.

EDIT: For the graphics card, if you want to game on high settings you will need to drop more money on it, I am not going to suggest anything but I am just bringing this to your attention.

Fourth, the memory that you have selected is quite vague "8GB" does not tell me what so I will find link to you some cheap, compatible memory that I think you should purchase, the 1600Mhz 8GB Kingston HyperX T1 for $25.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104242&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Fifth, the hard drive you selected is also nebulous, so for you should purchase the Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps for $69.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1016.

Sixth, you didn't say what optical drive you want ( You simply said "Yes" ) so I am going to push the LITE-ON DVD Burner for $17.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Seventh, you don't need a PCI network card, it's integrated into your motherboard.

Lastly, your power supply is actually kind of hard to find so I don't know the pricing point of it. Just get the OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W ( 80 PLUS certified )for $39.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53966&vpn=OCZ600SXS2&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1146.

My Parts Total: $426.49USD after rebate but before taxes

I hope I could help you on your computer building endeavour, and as always, good luck.

 

[johno96]

is this any better ?

http://www.cclonline.com/product/82442/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Elite-Hawk-II-Gaming-PC/CCL-EL-HWK2/

 

[johno96]

review of 4170
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-3220-benchmarks,3314.html
review of 6670
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6570-radeon-hd-6670-turks,2925.html

CPU ok. Graphics card weak.

Wich is the better of the two ?

 

[johno96]

First off, the processor that you selected, the AMD FX-4170 for $104.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=, is clocked at 4.2Ghz. It's a low budget processor and not suited well for graphics intensive games, also when talking about AMD processors you cannot directly relate that to Intel processors, it's equivalent of comparing an apple to an orange.

For better performance at a similar pricing point I suggest the Intel Core i3-3225 for $129.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75430&vpn=BX80637I33225&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1016.

Secondly, The motherboard that you have selected, the GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 for $62.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75286&vpn=GA%2D78LMT%2DUSB3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1286, is a Micro-ATX and is a very low end motherboard. If you are going with my afformentioned processor then you will need a different motherboard to be compatible.

Around the same price, with more features and an ATX form factor, there is the ASRock B75 PRO3 for $82.55 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Thirdly, the graphics card that you have selected, the AMD HD 6670 2GB for $59.99 @http://www.microcenter.com/product/396145/H667FR2G_AMD_Radeon_HD_6670_2048MB_DDR3_PCIe_X16_21_Video_Card, is a low-mid range graphics card and I figure would do fine as a graphics card, in fact in it's price range it has the most memory from what I can see, so keep that.

EDIT: For the graphics card, if you want to game on high settings you will need to drop more money on it, I am not going to suggest anything but I am just bringing this to your attention.

Fourth, the memory that you have selected is quite vague "8GB" does not tell me what so I will find link to you some cheap, compatible memory that I think you should purchase, the 1600Mhz 8GB Kingston HyperX T1 for $25.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104242&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Fifth, the hard drive you selected is also nebulous, so for you should purchase the Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps for $69.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1016.

Sixth, you didn't say what optical drive you want ( You simply said "Yes" ) so I am going to push the LITE-ON DVD Burner for $17.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Seventh, you don't need a PCI network card, it's integrated into your motherboard.

Lastly, your power supply is actually kind of hard to find so I don't know the pricing point of it. Just get the OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W ( 80 PLUS certified )for $39.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53966&vpn=OCZ600SXS2&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1146.

My Parts Total: $426.49USD after rebate but before taxes

I hope I could help you on your computer building endeavour, and as always, good luck.[/quotem

Thanks but i never said i was building it ?

 

[Limerick]

First off, the processor that you selected, the AMD FX-4170 for $104.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=, is clocked at 4.2Ghz. It's a low budget processor and not suited well for graphics intensive games, also when talking about AMD processors you cannot directly relate that to Intel processors, it's equivalent of comparing an apple to an orange.

For better performance at a similar pricing point I suggest the Intel Core i3-3225 for $129.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75430&vpn=BX80637I33225&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1016.

Secondly, The motherboard that you have selected, the GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 for $62.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75286&vpn=GA%2D78LMT%2DUSB3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1286, is a Micro-ATX and is a very low end motherboard. If you are going with my afformentioned processor then you will need a different motherboard to be compatible.

Around the same price, with more features and an ATX form factor, there is the ASRock B75 PRO3 for $82.55 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Thirdly, the graphics card that you have selected, the AMD HD 6670 2GB for $59.99 @http://www.microcenter.com/product/396145/H667FR2G_AMD_Radeon_HD_6670_2048MB_DDR3_PCIe_X16_21_Video_Card, is a low-mid range graphics card and I figure would do fine as a graphics card, in fact in it's price range it has the most memory from what I can see, so keep that.

EDIT: For the graphics card, if you want to game on high settings you will need to drop more money on it, I am not going to suggest anything but I am just bringing this to your attention.

Fourth, the memory that you have selected is quite vague "8GB" does not tell me what so I will find link to you some cheap, compatible memory that I think you should purchase, the 1600Mhz 8GB Kingston HyperX T1 for $25.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104242&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=.

Fifth, the hard drive you selected is also nebulous, so for you should purchase the Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps for $69.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1016.

Sixth, you didn't say what optical drive you want ( You simply said "Yes" ) so I am going to push the LITE-ON DVD Burner for $17.99 @http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Seventh, you don't need a PCI network card, it's integrated into your motherboard.

Lastly, your power supply is actually kind of hard to find so I don't know the pricing point of it. Just get the OCZ StealthXStream 2 600W ( 80 PLUS certified )for $39.99 @http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53966&vpn=OCZ600SXS2&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1146.

My Parts Total: $426.49USD after rebate but before taxes

I hope I could help you on your computer building endeavour, and as always, good luck.[/quotem

Thanks but i never said i was building it ?

Is it pre-made or custom built? If it's custom built it's technically building it.

 

[johno96]

custom built

 

[Limerick]

custom built

OK that what he means by you building it. You're not physically building it, you're just picking part for it. Thought it is cheaper to build it yourself but thats a whole other topic. And your computer will struggle playing games on high. The best you can hope for with that that gpu is on low settings. Sorry. You'll need at least a 7850 to begin to play games on high, depending on which one.

 

[johno96]

What is this then ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2urtrgnNtXQ

 

[Thomas Creel]

What is this then ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2urtrgnNtXQ

He says HD but it isn't HD, look at the resolution he set it at. Also he didn't literally mean the HD Radeon 7850, he just meant at around that pricing point and up is were serious gaming is.