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December 22, 2012 4:08:12 AM

This is the list of components I have now

Motherboard $60- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU $220-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply- $30- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-148-...

Video card- $150- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM- $30-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

These items below are my main question, I have a dell vostro 220 http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-vostro-220-core/4...

I want to take these following parts from the vostro 220 and use them to build my new pc. will they be compatible and are all the parts i have listed looking good? any input would be very appreciated. thank you very much

Case-

Hard Drive-

DVD drive-

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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2012 5:01:13 AM

CPU: Is the primary purpose of this PC for gaming? If so, you can save your money and go with an Intel i3 like this one:

Intel i3-3220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you decide you have to go with the i5-2500K, you can go with the i5-3570K for the same price here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: If you want to overclock the i5-2500K or i5-3570K, you should go with a Z77 motherboard and maybe an aftermarket cooler. If you're going with the i3, either of those you listed is fine.

RAM: These are fine but if you have a motherboard with two memory slots you won't be able to add more. 8GB (2 x 4GB) RAM have been on sale at the same price (or a little more) in the past and will continue to in the future if you're willing to wait for a deal.

PSU: Don't buy that PSU. You should buy a quality PSU with enough to power your system like this one for example:

XFX Core Edition PRO550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: If you can afford it, I suggest buying an HD 7850 2GB

Case: I don't recommend using the Dell case. It's small with poor airflow and you may have compatibility/clearance/thermal issues. Shop around for something you would like because a nice case goes a long way. Check out cases from NZXT, Corsair, Fractal Design, Antec for starter.

From the picture it looks like you should be able to reuse the hard drive and optical drive.
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December 22, 2012 6:48:56 AM

thank you for taking the time to respond.

this is pretty much just for pc gaming

So if i want to save money go with the i3? I am worried about its longevity and if it will get outdated quickly with new games. if i do decide to go for the i5 will it not be compatible with these motherboards even if i dont want to overclock the motherboards or if they come overclocked?

i will def look for those deals on ram

psu: i was told from many sites that going for an expensive psu is not worth it and that they all do the same thing. I want to really lower the cost where i can and the psu just doesnt seem important to me and i think 500w should be plenty enough power to run this computer. is there a quality psu for a little cheaper than the one you posted, that just seems like a lot for a psu. what kind of power do i need to run this and do you think its worth investing more in the psu?

I will do some more research on the gpu- thanks

also-any cases that you can recommend that are cheap and well built?

also- what do i have to do to the hard drive and dvd drive to be able to work in this new build? is there some kind of formatting needed or do I just pop it all together and it should work?

thank you for your time again and any other responses
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December 22, 2012 8:19:32 AM

Well in terms of power supply, if you go much cheaper, then you risk it blowing up and taking components with it. However, this seems to be a better choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its an extra 50 watts, which is negligible really, but may help improve efficiency (normally at around 50% psu capacity), but more importantly, is modular, so you can get away with a cheaper case, and improves airflow (due to less cables), as well as being easier to build.

The hard drive and dvd drive should be just fine, if you have more than one, then remember to change boot priority in the bios though.
As for the case, this is a good one if you can afford it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
However, any case which can support fans should be ok.

As for the GPU, the 1GB card is fine if your playing on lower resolutions, but it may struggle with HD and anti aliasing on demanding games. Sorry to bump up your budget again, but I recommend a 2GB 7870.

As for the CPU.... yeah, for the games of right now, an I3 will handle about 99% of them (multi core supported games such as Battlefield 3 may see a drop though). Four cores in a 3570 means not having to upgrade as soon in the future, but won't make a massive difference right now, as its mostly about your GPU. So 3570 if you can afford it, I3 otherwise.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2012 6:12:05 PM

I agree with Ninja on the CPU. If you play a lot of Battlefield 3 multiplayer, for example, then an i5 will be a better choice. If you want to go for the i5, it will be compatible with those motherboards but it makes no sense to buy a K Series CPU with a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking. You might as well save some money for the graphics card and buy a cheaper i5 if you don't plan on overclocking instead.

Like Ninja said, don't cheap out on the PSU. If there's one advice to take away, it's this one. It's the most important component and you don't want a cheap PSU to ruin the rest of your computer. This is the one area where you shouldn't lower the cost. The "expensive PSU" you've heard about costs hundreds of dollars which ends up costing you a lot more than the money you save from higher efficiency. It's only for those who needs to have the best of the best. The PSU I linked to is actually pretty cheap for what you get ($40 after promo code and rebate). This is another PSU I would've recommended to you but it has less watter and costs more.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the hard drive and optical drive. I'm guessing they use SATA and shouldn't have any issues. But you will have to format your hard drive because Windows won't boot with the new component changes. You will have to back up all your data then install Windows, updates, drivers, programs, etc.

Ninja linked you to a popular value case from Antec. It's a matter of individual preference/taste if you have one. Newegg often have cases on sale after promo code and rebate. So I recommend finding a few you have researched and like then be on a lookout for a good deal if you're not in a hurry to buy. Here are some more choices:

NZXT Source 210 Elite White
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Carbide Series 200R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 22, 2012 9:29:28 PM

I am not planning to overclock anything so it would be better to get a cheaper version of the i5? any recommendation? also i am looking at this gpu right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . it has the 2 gb and is pretty cheap and i have heard good things about the 7850. i will definately invest in a psu and that $40 one recommended looks good.
thanks again for all the input
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 22, 2012 9:45:27 PM

I think it is better if you will never overclock. This one looks good for $180 after applying the promo code:

Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know it's 0.3GHz slower than the top i5 CPU but that's close enough and you save $40. Maybe you can use that money to even go for the HD 7870 or GTX 660 which will give you better performance than the HD 7850. It's really up to you and your budget of course.

Edit: I know you said you won't overclock the CPU but you can always overclock the GPU for extra performance if you want. Also I'm not familiar with Diamond so I can't speak about their warranty and service, how that particular design performs thermally and acoustically and how well it will overclock. Online and user reviews should be able to help you with that.
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December 23, 2012 3:01:45 AM

hmm, i dont know exactly how much of a difference in performance it will make by going with the cpu suggested in the last post. how much of a difference does .3 ghz make? also, the motherboards posted in my first post are good with this cpu? any other motherboard suggestions? also how does this case look? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 23, 2012 3:17:54 AM

My guess is it probably doesn't make that much of a difference for gaming. The GPU is more important for gaming. Both motherboards will work with the all the CPUs mentioned in this thread.



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December 23, 2012 3:30:25 AM

that was a very helpful chart thank you. I will probably go for the lower priced i5. the motherboards will work but is there something i should look for in the motherboard or are those some solid motherboards? also i edited my last post but i'll rewrite it. how does this case look http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also there are very few reviews on this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and i am cautious of buying it. i really want to pay less than $200 for the gpu and what i've found is that the 7850 seems to be the best choice and i want the 2gb version and this is the only one that works for the price, should i go for it?

thank you!
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 23, 2012 3:45:42 AM

Those motherboards are fine but if you need extra features then they might be lacking such as limited memory and PCI-E slot and SATA III port, RAID function, etc. But I don't think you want/need them. The case looks good. If you've done your research on it and like what you see, then go for it. Make sure the case provides enough clearance for your graphics card; my guess is that case should be fine.
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December 23, 2012 4:20:35 AM

johnsonjohnson is very misinformed if he believes it is better to get an i3 instead of an i5 for gaming. The CPU and either Motherboard fit together, the RAM fits into either Motherboard. The Graphics fits into either motherboard. I would not recommend using that Apevia Power Supply. People frequently mistake the power supply for a part you can try to save money off of by grabbing a cheaper brand. This is very wrong. The only place you save on a power supply is by getting a smaller one, as people frequently believe you need ridiculous amounts of power for a PC. The only part you could reuse out of your old system is the DVD drive, maybe.

Corsair CX430 - $26 You will find this is your best deal on power supplies right now.

If you want a full set of recommendations from people, you should give your budget, excluding the Monitor and Operating System, that you are going to spend. We can recommend to you an EXCELLENT gaming build if we know how much money you want to spend (No, saying "as little as possible" is not a dollar amount).

If you were to get an i5-2500k and not overclock, you might as well get an Ivy Bridge instead of a sandy bridge (Sandy Bridge = 2xxx series, Ivy Bridge = 3xxx series). They consume less power and perform better at stock, but overclock less.

i5-3550 3.3ghz - $210 Same frequency as the 2500k, except cheaper, not unlocked, and Ivy Bridge.

If you're spending $210 on a CPU for a gaming computer, your budget should be at least $850, preferably $1050. If you're not looking to spend at least that much, you should look at a cheaper CPU. In this event, you're graphics card should be a (GTX 660 / Radeon 7870) or a (GTX 660 ti/Radeon 7950) for an $850 budget. For a $1050 budget, you're looking at a (GTX 670/Radeon 7970) or a (GTX 680/Radeon 7970 Gigahertz Edition).

If you're gonna go with the i5-3450 for $180, your budget should be at least $725, preferably $900. At $725. you should look into a (GTX 660/Radeon 7870) or (GTX 670/Radeon 7950). At $900, you should look into a GTX 670/Radoen 7950.

With a GTX 670, a 430W PSU is plenty, but people will recommend a 500W. This build from August by Tom's staff shows an i5-3570k OC and a GTX 670 OC system pulling 345W at full load. You should not run a PSU at 100% capacity.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclock-benchmark,3276-12.html
But the 430W PSU gives you plenty of space.


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December 23, 2012 4:24:06 AM



This was using a single GTX 680 2GB card.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 23, 2012 4:36:30 AM

I didn't say it is better. I said that it's a choice he can choose to go with if he wants to save money. I also said that if he "plays a lot of Battlefield 3 multiplayer, for example, then an i5 will be a better choice".
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December 25, 2012 11:48:22 PM

Thanks for all the advice, especially johnson. So the psu that another user recommended is to have less than 500 watts? I actually haven't heard that before and it doesn't sound like a good idea. I want one that is at least 500 watts. the psu is not really a part where you can save a lot of money, just a difference of like 15 dollars to get a 500 watt reliable psu. I should have mentioned this before but I want to build this for around $500. right now I have decided on:
~$200 cpu-i5 (still looking for the exact model, I am looking to spend less than $200 on)
~$180 graphics card- 7850 (looking to spend less than $200
~$60 mobo:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (not sure if this mobo can accept ram sticks of 4 gb each but i am guessing it probably will)
~$30 case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
~$30 memory- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
~$40 psu- still looking

and I am hoping that my dvd and hard drive from the dell vostro will do the job.

this all adds up to about $550, hoping to pick out some parts to get the price down but overall this is what I'm looking at.
any other input on this would be nice and thank you all for the help, i'll pick the best answer soon.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 26, 2012 9:02:03 PM

If you're going with the 7850, 430W should be enough for you.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ($25 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want at least 500W for future upgrade, then go with this. I would've gone with the XFX though but now it's not available anymore.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 500W ($40 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That motherboard can accept 2 memory sticks and could support up to 16GB (2 x 8GB) so (2 x 4GB) shouldn't be a problem.

The G.SKILL Sniper Series carries a higher premium that you don't necessarily need. Either G.SKILL Ripjaws and G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 is enough for your needs and will save you money.

Everything else looks good.
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December 26, 2012 9:09:25 PM

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