Decision help

[Guest]

Hello everybody , I will be purchasing a graphics card. I can't decide between this card,http://us.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-TF-3GD5-OC.html and this card http://us.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-PE-2GD5-OC.html. I will be overclocking, but not very extreme. I will also be gaming on 2 and possibly 3 screens with nvidia surround, physx, and all of the other features turned on

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

If you want to oc, then get a 7950 or 7870. They can overclock 20-30% based on what I've read.

 

[Guest]

I am not a hardcore one, and I want to stick with the cards I have stated, sorry :|

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

Well if you do you are wasting money.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605
There is literally no reason not to get this. AMD is no more difficult to use.

 

[Guest]

I will look into it, but I have had AMD graphics cards in the past, but it has been a somewhat troublesome experience (then again, nvidia has its issues too)

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

When did you have the amd? It is very different now, also almost everyone is going to recommend amd as nvidia is overpriced by at least $50 for every high end card.

 

[Guest]

I completely agree with you, (just like how macs are overpriced), does amd have any actual game enhancements like physx?

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

they have openGL I think, don't quote me on that though. Also physx is pointless. If you have a 660ti you will want to turn off physx, trust me. It is not worth a 20+ fps hit so more dust kicks up. Physx doesn't add anything to gameplay, I have a physx card, I am currently trying to sell it because I would rather have money.

 

[Kamen_BG]

PhysX isn't Nvidia exclusive.Neither are all the others like FXAA.
They can all be used on AMD cards as well.You just need to enable it in the options.

Ill just leave this link here.
http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page5.html
And this
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-memory-bandwidth-anti-aliasing,3283-12.html
And due to their higher bandwidth AMD cards perform better at higher resolutions and/or multiple monitors compared to their Nvidia competitors.
Usually that advantage isn't that big but there are games in which the extra bandwidth really helps.
http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfighter-benchmarks/page4.html

The 660 Ti is also very overpriced compared to its AMD competitors.The HD 7870 is about as fast as the 660 Ti (+-10) and costs 60 dolars less on avarage.The HD 7950 is faster than the 660 Ti, more overclockable(when overclocked and overvolted becomes faster than a GTX 680), more future proof, features an incredible bundle and can be had for the same price as a 660 Ti.

In my opinion you should buy this card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Or this card (listed in benchmarks as HD 7950 Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Or, if you aren't going to overclock and want PhysX, the card below.

If you want an Nvidia card this is the only one that you should consider.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

The thing is, at this point the 7950 is about as power as a 670 and $70 cheaper. It is also easily oced past the 670 and can get close to 7970 performance.

 

[Guest]

Thanks you guys so very much, but one question, what do you guys think is a better choice between the ones I have listed

 

[envy14tpe]

Thanks you guys so very much, but one question, what do you guys think is a better choice between the ones I have listed

Haha. Back to the original question.

I would buy the 2GB model:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-PE-2GD5-OC.html

The 3GB you listed:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-TF-3GD5-OC.html

At most I use 1.5GB (according to MSI Afterburner) on my 2GB model. Most games don't need 3GB. You'd probably get a very small improvement with 3GB. However, according to newegg prices, the 3GB is $40 more at $320 (rebate) and I don't think it's worth it.

You said you want to game on 3 screens. You need 3 screens so your middle is on one screen. With that in mind, if you want to push your GPU then you'll need a better GPU such as 670 or higher for 3 screens.

I recommend 2GB 660ti for 2 screens, but wouldn't suggest gaming on 3 screens with one 660ti.

 

[Guest]

Haha. Back to the original question.

I would buy the 2GB model:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-PE-2GD5-OC.html

The 3GB you listed:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-TF-3GD5-OC.html

At most I use 1.5GB (according to MSI Afterburner) on my 2GB model. Most games don't need 3GB. You'd probably get a very small improvement with 3GB. However, according to newegg prices, the 3GB is $40 more at $320 (rebate) and I don't think it's worth it.

You said you want to game on 3 screens. You need 3 screens so your middle is on one screen. With that in mind, if you want to push your GPU then you'll need a better GPU such as 670 or higher for 3 screens.

I recommend 2GB 660ti for 2 screens, but wouldn't suggest gaming on 3 screens with one 660ti.

I found this one though'

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5121340

 

[envy14tpe]

I found this one though'

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5121340

Which model is it and how much?
Tigerdirect.com doesn't work outside US. Very weird. Only site that I can't get to work.

 

[Guest]

Haha. Back to the original question.

I would buy the 2GB model:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-PE-2GD5-OC.html

The 3GB you listed:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N660Ti-TF-3GD5-OC.html

At most I use 1.5GB (according to MSI Afterburner) on my 2GB model. Most games don't need 3GB. You'd probably get a very small improvement with 3GB. However, according to newegg prices, the 3GB is $40 more at $320 (rebate) and I don't think it's worth it.

You said you want to game on 3 screens. You need 3 screens so your middle is on one screen. With that in mind, if you want to push your GPU then you'll need a better GPU such as 670 or higher for 3 screens.

I recommend 2GB 660ti for 2 screens, but wouldn't suggest gaming on 3 screens with one 660ti.

I was wondering, if i run another card in sli, is it exactly 2x the performance (acting as one ultra powerfal card), or is it more like 1.75x the performance

 

[Guest]

Which model is it and how much?
Tigerdirect.com doesn't work outside US. Very weird. Only site that I can't get to work.

it is the 3gb version, and i will put up a screen shot

 

[envy14tpe]

I was wondering, if i run another card in sli, is it exactly 2x the performance (acting as one ultra powerfal card), or is it more like 1.75x the performance

I have no experience in using SLI or Crossfire. However, what I've seen on benchmarks is that it's more like 1.85x.
I'm not a fan of using SLI/Crossfire cuz of extra power consumption and micro stuttering. If I wanted a decent 3 monitor system then I'd buy at least a 680 or 7970. That is, if you have demanding games.

 

[Guest]

Ok, I was just wondering

I am taking snapshots of the website now, give me a few minutes

 

[envy14tpe]

just FYI. Snipping Tool or "Prt Scr" button are great. Afterwards you can crop in paint. Then upload a photo to imageshack.us From there you copy and paste the "direct link" onto the forum. I'm just saying, cuz this made things easy for me when I post in forums.

 

[Guest]

just FYI. Snipping Tool or "Prt Scr" button are great. Afterwards you can crop in paint. Then upload a photo to imageshack.us From there you copy and paste the "direct link" onto the forum. I'm just saying, cuz this made things easy for me when I post in forums.

i swear, i was just doing that

 

[Guest]

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8369/graphicscardwebsiteedit.png

this is the image

 

[envy14tpe]

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8369/graphicscardwebsiteedit.png

this is the image

For $10 more, seems ok, but probably not necessary.

I'd still buy the 2GB 660ti PE OC. The core clock is higher and a slight OC will push it ahead more.
I don't see the point in 3GB cards.

 

[Guest]

Best answer selected by Ahvav.

 

[Guest]

For $10 more, seems ok, but probably not necessary.

I'd still buy the 2GB 660ti PE OC. The core clock is higher and a slight OC will push it ahead more.
I don't see the point in 3GB yards.

Thank you my good man, me decision is final. I would like to thank toms hardware for providing this opportunity,envy14tpe for helping me out, and the other AMD supporters for for actually getting me to look at AMD's website

 

[envy14tpe]

Thank you my good man, me decision is final. I would like to thank toms hardware for providing this opportunity,envy14tpe for helping me out, and the other AMD supporters for for actually getting me to look at AMD's website

Glad to help. Tomshardware does have a lot of builders, and I've learned a lot from others. I'd like to hear
how the build went. I enjoyed building mine and like to help noobs (like me, before).

As far as brands, I'm very impartial. I stick to benchmarks and make informed decisions. AMD or NVIDIA is all the same
to me. Although I want AMD to improve and Intel to stutter. This will help keep prices down and push competition.