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December 23, 2012 2:45:20 AM

I have a couple questions on these parts and parts i could substitute for either, better performance and less cost or just over all better performance.




CPU Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core $563.99
I like this processor and will most likely keep it although the price is high. I dont plan on changing it.

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $24.99
i just picked this one because it looked good and was cheap, there is really no reason for it.

Motherboard Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 $419.99
This motherboard seems to be a great motherboard and i am sorta stuck on it. I dont plan on changing it.

Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $88.99
Memory is memory for the most part, i just need 4 sticks for the motherboard for quad channeling, so i got 4 of 4. corsair i know is a good brand.

Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $90.99
this is just a 1TB HDD for secondary storage really.

Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" SSD $252.99
This will house the operating system and main programs i use. I will not be getting this exact one,i will find it cheaper, it will be from logicbuy.com for less

Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB $1004.49
This will be my card of choice, there is no changing that. I just love it lol

Case Lian-Li PC-X2000F ATX Full Tower
This case is one of my favorites and i plan to keep it for a LONG time, i can use this as time goes on.

Power Supply Cooler Master 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V $149.99
Not sure if the PSU is overkill or not, i plan on also getting a nice monitor atleast 2560 X 1600 and 120hz, at like 30" atleast.. i cant really seem to find any good monitors
Optical Drive Lite-On iHES212-08 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $82.28

just need a blu ray / dvd / cd writer.
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $136.45
I will probably get both win 7 and win 8 just for kicks.



Any suggestions on parts or changes would be greatly appreciated, I am currently looking for a monitor and maybe a sound card if it is worth it, i have heard there is no big difference between onboard sound and a sound card.


Thank you!

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December 23, 2012 3:06:02 AM

What tasks are you planning to do?
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December 23, 2012 3:24:38 AM

If this is for gaming I would say your wasting a lot of money
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December 23, 2012 3:36:30 AM

Gaming, movies / videos, small photoshop tasks. It may be a waste of money but its what i want for now.
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December 23, 2012 3:45:12 AM

Well since you dont plan on changing much from your current build you are pretty much set have fun building your new rig
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December 23, 2012 3:48:31 AM

treven said:
Gaming, movies / videos, small photoshop tasks. It may be a waste of money but its what i want for now.

Are you planning to overclock the CPU? A sound card is not necessary, but if you have the money to blow, ASUS Xonar D1.
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December 23, 2012 3:56:19 AM

For some reason the link to the monitor isn't working correctly. it just won't load up. I will mess around with the CPU a little bit but not a major over clock, what is a CPU you would suggest instead of that, or instead of any of those part, what would you suggest for a top of the line gaming pc that i wont need to lets say...update the parts on for a while, like a year or two.
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December 23, 2012 4:01:55 AM

treven said:
For some reason the link to the monitor isn't working correctly. it just won't load up. I will mess around with the CPU a little bit but not a major over clock, what is a CPU you would suggest instead of that, or instead of any of those part, what would you suggest for a top of the line gaming pc that i wont need to lets say...update the parts on for a while, like a year or two.

If your gaming only, that CPU is way overkill. If you want to stick with that CPU go ahead but that's not what I was gonna change when I asked if you were gonna OC. If you want to OC quite a bit, I was going to suggest the Noctua NH-D14 cooler. Top of the line cooler for high overclocking.
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December 23, 2012 4:02:45 AM

treven said:
For some reason the link to the monitor isn't working correctly. it just won't load up.
The monitor is ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 50,000,000:1
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December 23, 2012 4:15:09 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($184.95 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card ($1004.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.60 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1250W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($231.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($68.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (32-bit) ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2167.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-23 01:15 EST-0500)
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December 23, 2012 4:18:02 AM

Keep your original case if you want this will easily last for 3 years and you have enough PSU to add another GPU down the road. Depending on how much to plan to OC change up the cooler to a better one, If you plan to OC only a little bit than stick with the 212
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December 23, 2012 4:40:13 AM

Thanks for the input and yes, i plan to keep the case, even if i scrap all and rebuild from scratch with just that case. Hopefully the PSU lasts that long too, dont know much on how long they go for. Just the one GPU is fine for now i dont see myself ever needing two of those monsters lol unless i had like 6 screens or something crazy..

That screen looks great but i would prefer a monitor that is atleast 30" and can go to 2560 X 1600 and has 120hz refresh rate, is it possible to find that in a regular TV? will the TV be able to play FPS and other games like WoW and League of Legends and watch movies and skype without screwing up or lagging?
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December 23, 2012 5:48:34 AM

treven said:
Thanks for the input and yes, i plan to keep the case, even if i scrap all and rebuild from scratch with just that case. Hopefully the PSU lasts that long too, dont know much on how long they go for. Just the one GPU is fine for now i dont see myself ever needing two of those monsters lol unless i had like 6 screens or something crazy..

That screen looks great but i would prefer a monitor that is atleast 30" and can go to 2560 X 1600 and has 120hz refresh rate, is it possible to find that in a regular TV? will the TV be able to play FPS and other games like WoW and League of Legends and watch movies and skype without screwing up or lagging?

That will be really expensive. A 24" 120hz monitor is already $350-400. 120hz + a 30" monitor is probably going to be like close to $1000. and gaming on a TV sucks imo. I would really suggest a 27" korean monitor.
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December 23, 2012 6:16:43 AM

Can i use my monitor as a tv? :)  i usually just watch netflix and other stuff so it wouldnt be a huge change lol
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December 23, 2012 6:17:59 AM

Best answer selected by treven.
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December 23, 2012 6:42:07 AM

treven said:
Can i use my monitor as a tv? :)  i usually just watch netflix and other stuff so it wouldnt be a huge change lol


Yes you can use a tv as a monitor and a monitor as a tv, depending on the monitor/extra hardware you need to fit in to turn monitor tv compatible. Overall I would go with a 1920x1080 tv if you want the best color production with a nice 32'' screen. This is $697 Samsung which has a 7,500,000:1 CR, 120Hz 3D, and 1920x1080. This is some competition @ a better price LG 6,000,000:1 CR and uses Passive 3D over Samsung Active(I personally prefer passive and would consider the LG over the Samsung, + it's only 550 vs 700. Those are your options on tvs. Monitors should be around that price though @ 27''. I haven't seen hi-res 3d monitors before and just considering a 1600p monitor is 1200 bucks, I don't see how that 3d 1600p, if it exists, wouldn't be sold for less than 1500. The prices for these things are too high for my taste, so I stick to 1080p HDTV. As far as a build goes I would definitely go with

Case: Freezer Case

Power Supply: Platinum Full Modular PSU

Motherboard: Best Motherboard/Price

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K

Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance C7

Solid State Drive: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB

Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital WD Blue 7200RPM/64MB Cache

Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner

Cpu Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64B

Lastly is the Video Card. I would recommend going with MSI Lightning 7970 and picking up another one in a year when they are cheaper. If you are not an AMD guy, then Galaxy 680. Both are good options and depending on what you're doing you could go with either one. If you plan on a 3 monitor or tv setup, the 7970 is better. But if you plan on using 1 monitor with 3d nvidia is the better way to go. For strictly gaming performance, I would give it to the 7970.

Total Price: $1,757.89 This gives you room for maybe another 7970/680 if you want to CS/SLI right now, or room for, what I would get, a nice mechanical keyboard/mouse @ Best Mechanical Keyboard Sold and a Great Mouse but so is the G9X/500/600 series from Logitech.

And for a good review between performance, check out http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/23/msi_geforce_g...

They are using the Sapphire 7970 which is 369.99 and overclocked it pretty awesomely. Comparing it to the MSI 680 lightning. Bit of a leepfrog, as both cards are great. Price difference is considerable though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... That's the 680.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... That's the 7970.

Hope that might help you if you're unsure on going AMD or Nvidia, GL :hello: 
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December 23, 2012 7:06:52 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($74.77 @ Compuvest)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 700W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS312-98 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1963.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-23 03:45 EST-0500)

For the stuff at superbiiz, see if it isn't much more elsewhere with free shipping(superbiiz can charge a lot on shipping of individual items, but you might get a better deal when you have several items shipped together).

Overclock the i7 so it performs about as well as that hexacore you specced.

2 gtx680 in sli are faster than a gtx690(faster still if you overclock them) and cheaper(by like 200 bucks).

If you are an audiophile, you will notice the difference between mobo audio and discrete. If not, go mobo. there are many options, from around 25 bucks (asus xonar DG) to well over 100. The D1 is under 100 and has good sampling/SNR.

Couldn't find your case in stock. Personally, I'd wouldn't spend 7.5x or 9x more than an antec three hundred two or cooler master haf 912 respectively. You might want to rearrange the fans in the 302. If you don't need front usb 3.0, save a few bucks on a haf 912.

This PSU is plenty powerful for overclocked gtx680s and an overclocked i7. This Blu-Ray burner has software and a data cable.

Home premium and its 16GB ram limit should be plenty for some time, based on your projected system usage.

There are 120hz 2560x1440 27 inch korean panels on ebay in the neighborhood of 300 some dollars. do some research. They will have higher ppi(pixels per inch) than a larger lcd/plasma tv or a 2560x1600 30 inch panel. Don't think they make 30 inchers for 3D.
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December 23, 2012 7:09:04 AM

Thank you very much Praxeology, I sadly cannot view any of the links at the moment due to restrictions on the internet, i can get to new egg but loading a new link doesnt open...its weird.

I personally am a very Nvidia / Intel person i just prefer them to AMD. I just always have. I thank you for all the information. :)  I will look at the products as best i can!
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December 23, 2012 7:09:09 AM

jtenorj said:
There are 120hz 2560x1440 27 inch korean panels on ebay in the neighborhood of 300 some dollars. do some research. They will have higher ppi(pixels per inch) than a larger lcd/plasma tv or a 2560x1600 30 inch panel. Don't think they make 30 inchers for 3D.


Problem with those things is warranties and returns... Shocked someone would even recommend them.
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December 23, 2012 7:11:08 AM

treven said:
Thank you very much Praxeology, I sadly cannot view any of the links at the moment due to restrictions on the internet, i can get to new egg but loading a new link doesnt open...its weird.

I personally am a very Nvidia / Intel person i just prefer them to AMD. I just always have. I thank you for all the information. :)  I will look at the products as best i can!


Ya, I figure'd you would be more comfortable with Nvidia so I provided the alternatives. Either way you go they are great setups for under 2k giving you accessory, monitor, or CF/SLI options. GL
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December 23, 2012 7:16:43 AM

Thank you very much!
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December 23, 2012 7:23:53 AM

How does the 3820 compare to the 3930? as it is half the price and still compatible with the Asus rampage extreme IV mobo.
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December 23, 2012 7:32:18 AM

treven said:
How does the 3820 compare to the 3930? as it is half the price and still compatible with the Asus rampage extreme IV mobo.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-...

Literally no difference between the processors related to gaming, which is why everyone here will recommend the i5k/z77 build. If you are intent on going with a 2011 build do not use that motherboard. Its an overpriced rip off, ofc unless you plan on using 4 680s which would be an even bigger overpriced ripoff, but the board you would want for something like that. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... For a normal 2011 build go with this.
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December 23, 2012 7:35:49 AM

I can't see the product you are trying to show me. what type of motherboard?
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December 23, 2012 7:37:37 AM

both are hyper threaded, but the 3820 is quad core while 3930k is 6 cores. The K processor has an unlocked multiplier, so is easier to overclock. You can still overclock a 3820 by manipulating the base clock( I believe it goes from 100 to 125 to 150). Those socket 2011 SB-E processors each have a 130w tdp, so they are more work to cool than sandy or ivy(especially if you overclock). I honestly don't understand why you want to spend over 400 on a mobo when you can get a capable one for less than a third of that.
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December 23, 2012 7:48:24 AM

The bell's and whistles always get me, haha. Thank you i can see the amazon page just fine, its a problem with the firewalls and ACL's where i am at that doesnt allow new egg to open from a link lol. i can get to it just fine and browse, just not open from links.

Whats the real difference between the two motherboards?

Also will all the stuff fit in a HAF 922 case? Thats also a problem i dont want to run into, the stuff not fitting :/ 
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December 23, 2012 7:56:16 AM

treven said:
The bell's and whistles always get me, haha. Thank you i can see the amazon page just fine, its a problem with the firewalls and ACL's where i am at that doesnt allow new egg to open from a link lol. i can get to it just fine and browse, just not open from links.

Whats the real difference between the two motherboards?

Also will all the stuff fit in a HAF 922 case? Thats also a problem i dont want to run into, the stuff not fitting :/ 


It is a haf 932 advanced and it will fit wonderfully. The difference between those motherboards is price and features. The one you have linked supports 4 way SLI pci express 3.0 all running at x16, whereas the second one will only run 2 way SLI @ x16 x16. Since the max you would have in a build is 2, the x16 x16 is all you would need in a 2011 build. Thus 200 dollars saved. I will refitt the build with amazon, but it might be more expensive. I will just use pc part picker and relink that way I think.
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December 23, 2012 8:00:55 AM

CPU Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core $287.99
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 $81.51
Motherboard Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 $244.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $88.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $90.99
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" SSD $129.99
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB $1004.49
Sound Card Asus Xonar DG $24.99
Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower $146.76
Power Supply Cooler Master 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V $149.99
Optical Drive Lite-On iHES212-08 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $82.28
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $136.45

This is what i have currently, i couldnt give up the graphics card, i dont know what it is, i love it lol..Total: $2469.42
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December 23, 2012 8:10:50 AM

treven said:
CPU Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core $287.99
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 $81.51
Motherboard Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 $244.99
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $88.99
Storage Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $90.99
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" SSD $129.99
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB $1004.49
Sound Card Asus Xonar DG $24.99
Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower $146.76
Power Supply Cooler Master 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V $149.99
Optical Drive Lite-On iHES212-08 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer $82.28
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $136.45

This is what i have currently, i couldnt give up the graphics card, i dont know what it is, i love it lol..Total: $2469.42


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair CAFA70 61.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1436.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-23 05:09 EST-0500)

Here is an SLI setup

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair CAFA70 61.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1906.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-23 05:11 EST-0500)

Going with a 690 is pointless. It has less performance at a much higher price. The 2011 processor again isn't worth it at all for gaming. I mean just look at this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-... Why waste money? That power supply is beyond overkill, and not a trustworthy name in PSU market. You want to stick Corsair, Seasonic, EVGA, XFX probably in that order. The noctura cooler isn't worth the price I think either, an H80 would cool better for the same price. Other then that not too bad I suppose.
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December 23, 2012 9:49:35 AM

OP, did you look at the build I specced back a ways in the thread? Just wondering...
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December 23, 2012 11:53:05 AM

Yes JtenorJ i read your post, sorry it kind of got scrambled in between our conversation.
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December 23, 2012 10:16:09 PM

That's cool. When you get a flurry of replies, it can be hard to really take them all in.
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December 25, 2012 4:45:35 PM

treven said:
Gaming, movies / videos, small photoshop tasks. It may be a waste of money but its what i want for now.

yup. z77 i5 3570k or 17 3770k, will stomp those tasks... and if u desire a higher oc 2500k/ 26-2700k are good also. unless you are planning to 3way/4way sli u are reeaalllyyy wassttiinng soooo mmuuucchhhh bread... but ur build is badass none the less
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