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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp

Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
point and shoot junk.
-Rich

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If the sensor had been decent, they could have given Canon and Nikon a run,
but even their samples on their website weren't that great.

http://download.kodak.com/professi [...] ibrary.jpg

http://download.kodak.com/professi [...] /model.jpg

http://download.kodak.com/professi [...] rtrait.jpg
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"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.
> -Rich

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RichA wrote:

> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.

I like the double speak: "Kodak was keen to stress that this does not
mark the end of Kodak digital SLR's but that they wished to concentrate
on market segments which are more profitable."

Now, let's all hope that K-M are not next.


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"cheap" appeals to the largest market share
"value" (quality for a given price) appeals to a lesser market share
"quality" appeals to the smallest market share

The market gets what it demands...if the quality of an item is disturbing,
don't buy it and some company will eventually fill the niche. Of course,
PART of the reason the market is demanding so many "cheap" goods is
due to manufacturers shipping jobs (i.e., income sources) overseas...it is
a downward spiral...at least until management jobs get shipped overseas.

Even when a country is capable of producing quality goods (like China),
it is still mostly the "cheap" stuff that comes over here. The Chinese
(manufacturers) complain that our importers don't want to buy quality
and the consumers (here) complain about the quality...but keep buying
so it keeps on coming. Too many shopaholics here for a healthy market.
If it doesn't meet your needs, don't buy it!

George
(climbing off soapbox)

"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.
> -Rich

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"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp

> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.

That's one possible translation. Here are two others:

We're supplying chips to <insert vendor's name here> for their DSLR, and
we signed a non-competition agreement.

We're part of the Four Thirds consortium, and we're about to announce
our new 4/3 DSLR.

Which of these is true will emerge in time.

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"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:of2q9117dk45gp2skq60737lf3sdpe9a9l@4ax.com...
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.
> -Rich

Part of the problem might have been aesthetics, too: their dSLR looked as
if it were designed by Mr. Potatohead.

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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:11:14 GMT, "Andrew Koenig" <ark@acm.org> wrote:

>"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>news:of2q9117dk45gp2skq60737lf3sdpe9a9l@4ax.com...
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
>> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
>> point and shoot junk.
>
>That's one possible translation. Here are two others:
>
> We're supplying chips to <insert vendor's name here> for their DSLR, and
>we signed a non-competition agreement.
>
> We're part of the Four Thirds consortium, and we're about to announce
>our new 4/3 DSLR.
>
>Which of these is true will emerge in time.
>

Interesting tactic; Going from pro to downmarket and still staying
with DSLRs.
-Rich

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G.T. wrote:

>
> It's hard to find basic household and gardening
> utensils that are made like they were 30 years ago.
>

I was looking for a GOOD coffee grinder. All most stores had were the cheap
plastic "grinders" that work like a blender. Finally found a store that
sold a kitchenaide -real- grinder and it was only like 3X as much as the
garbage cheapo ones, was all metal and glass and actually grinds the
coffee. Sure I could have saved $70 and got the cheap one, this good one
should last the rest of my life. I bet they sell 100 cheap ones to every
good one though.
--

Stacey

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RichA wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>
> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
> point and shoot junk.

Jeez, so cynical. Kodak as 0% market share, and the noisiest D-SLRs on
the market (except perhaps for Sigma).

So first KM, and now Kodak. Who's next to exit the D-SLR business,
Olympus, Pentax, or Sigma?

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Hi Steven,

Steven M. Scharf wrote:
> So first KM, and now Kodak. Who's next to exit the D-SLR
> business, Olympus, Pentax, or Sigma?

KM? Do you habe info they left? Although it would not surprise me when
they would try to stop the bleeding any time (same for Oly)

Regards

Benedikt

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 06:14:48 GMT, "Steven M. Scharf"
<scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:

>RichA wrote:
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0505/ [...] lrdisc.asp
>>
>> Translated; There's much more profit in all-plastic
>> point and shoot junk.
>
>Jeez, so cynical. Kodak as 0% market share, and the noisiest D-SLRs on
>the market (except perhaps for Sigma).
>
>So first KM, and now Kodak. Who's next to exit the D-SLR business,
>Olympus, Pentax, or Sigma?

I can't believe Kodak couldn't make money selling $5000 DSLRs.
-Rich

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RichA wrote:

> I can't believe Kodak couldn't make money selling $5000 DSLRs.

You have to sell more than ten to make up for the development cost!

Eventually the bean counters at Olympus, Pentax, and Sigma, are going to
prevail, and convince top management that continuous negative ROI's are
not part of a long term business plan. It takes longer for this to
happen in Japan, than in the U.S.. It's be one thing if the market share
of any of these players was in the double digits, but they are splitting
2-5% of the total available market. Maybe Sony will pick up one of them.

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Steven M. Scharf wrote:

> So first KM, and now Kodak. Who's next to exit the D-SLR business,
> Olympus, Pentax, or Sigma?

When did K-M exit the DSLR business?

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