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November 6, 2012 4:09:38 PM

Hello guys,

I'm relatively new to this place and I need some information about these videocards. Which one should I get?

Looking at the benchmarks, some say that hd 7850 is better than gtx 660 but others say it's the other way around. For the most part, i've found that the 7870 performs better than the gtx 660 ti, but i'm not sure.

What's for sure is that the 7850 and 7870 are definitely cheaper.

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November 6, 2012 4:14:41 PM

In alot of cases it depends on the use of the card or specific games that you are playing. Some games nvidia seems to perform better and others amd does. If you look at the various benchmarks and can find the specific game you'll be using mostly you'll likely find your answer!
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November 6, 2012 4:34:50 PM

Personally I'd go for an HD 7870 out of the ones you mentioned. It's $70 cheaper and it's pretty much on par with the much more expensive GTX 660 ti. Basically the HD 7870 is the best bang for your buck out of those cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can also get a $20 rebate card with that offer.
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November 6, 2012 4:42:54 PM

What games are you planning to play?
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November 6, 2012 4:58:27 PM

tabascosauz said:
Hello guys,

I'm relatively new to this place and I need some information about these videocards. Which one should I get?

Looking at the benchmarks, some say that hd 7850 is better than gtx 660 but others say it's the other way around. For the most part, i've found that the 7870 performs better than the gtx 660 ti, but i'm not sure.

What's for sure is that the 7850 and 7870 are definitely cheaper.



As people are saying it depends on what you are wanting the cards to do and play.

What resolution and what games in other words.

The 660 and 7850 are much a muchness more or less the same. the 7850 will handle AA etc better, but its not a make or break issue. @ 1920 x 1080 either would be fine.

The 660Ti is noticeably faster than the 7870, I'm not sure what your pricing is like but I'm in the UK and here the 660Ti is the same price and performance as the 7950.
So here at least the price is fair.

Mactronix :) 
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November 6, 2012 5:09:03 PM

Mactronix said it best.

Basically to break it down:

7850 < GTX 660 < 7870 < GTX 660 Ti = 7950

So take that into consideration along with price.
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November 6, 2012 5:31:18 PM

I kind of agree with the last 2 posts, except on one thing:

660Ti = HD7950
Their prices are similar, yes, and they play almost as good as any other at 1080p right out the box, but IMHO, you have to compare the mem interface. The 660Ti while being a great card, falls short when it comes to higher resolutions OR full AA and AF. With this high quality settings and higher resolutions, the 7950 is far superior.

Oh and also consider overclocking. The 660Ti doesnt give you that much room for tweaking, in fact the very MSi 660Ti Power Edition had problems with a default overvolting, which made the cards extremely weak to overlocks.
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November 6, 2012 5:39:40 PM

I didn't mean to be misleading. I'm talking right out of the box. I also didn't want to nitpick about the MSAA because most AMD's excel over their Nvidia counterparts when MSAA is cranked up.

Right out of the box frame for frame.
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November 6, 2012 8:01:35 PM

azraa said:
I kind of agree with the last 2 posts, except on one thing:

660Ti = HD7950
Their prices are similar, yes, and they play almost as good as any other at 1080p right out the box, but IMHO, you have to compare the mem interface. The 660Ti while being a great card, falls short when it comes to higher resolutions OR full AA and AF. With this high quality settings and higher resolutions, the 7950 is far superior.

Oh and also consider overclocking. The 660Ti doesnt give you that much room for tweaking, in fact the very MSi 660Ti Power Edition had problems with a default overvolting, which made the cards extremely weak to overlocks.



Well the way I see it is that while you are correct technically, there is little relevance in real world scenarios. Remember I did ask but we don't know the OP's resolution and I did stipulate 1920 x 1080 in my answer.

That being said yes at higher resolutions the memory bandwidth does start to be an issue but at the stipulated 1920 x 1080 its just not an issue. these cards all give playable frame rates at that resolution.

The 7950 is faster for sure but then its only really extreme MSAA that makes a real difference at 1920 x 1080.

Your probably right to mention it but its not that big an issue. I guess as usual its down to preference, playable FPS to me might not be to someone else.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...

Mactronix :) 

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November 7, 2012 8:58:22 PM

Right now I have an XPS 8500 and it hs a GT 640 GDDR5, and I'm looking to change the gfx card when it gets completely obsolete. the problem right now is that I don't know if these graphic cards above are compatible with the H77 chipset i have right now.

I would've built another desktop that is gaming-oriented, but i need the i7-3770 for other purposes other than gaming, so i went with the xps 8500.

I am looking to play BF3, COD 2, BF2, SC2, and possibly black ops 2 and bad company 2.

My last concern is the PSU; the XPS 8500 has a 460w stock PSU. I don't know how much wattage I need for 7850 or 7870.
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November 25, 2012 4:38:56 AM

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1352691741F74TQB...
The gddr5 640 is actually a 650 since 650 is a 640 with GDDR5
They should be compatible. The 7850 will be good on a 450W, not so sure about the 7870 though

EDIT:This data was made with the newest drivers on both sides (Nvidia has a beta one that has perf increase but not in the games your are playing irrc)
This is the complete review
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu...
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