What graphics card at 1240x1024 resolution for mmorpg games: Aion, GW2

[niker37]

Current pc:
1280x1040 Monitor Resolution
Asus M3a
AMD Athlon x2 64 dual core processor 5200+ 2.7 ghz
8gb ram corsair ddr2 or ddr3 i think..
Geforce 8600 GT
Psu: 430w
Win7 64bit


UPGRADING TO:
CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K -$199
http://www.canadacomputers.com/pro [...] _id=035530

Motherboard:
Asus P8Z77-V - $ 129.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/pro [...] _id=047272

RAM:
Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2x4GB) - $ 34.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/pro [...] _id=035851

-What graphics card should i get thats best bang for the buck. I want to play at a considerable high FPS that is stable and will not give me spike laggs while doing WvW, entering towns, etc...

Some recommend me to get a 7700 but some say its weak some say to get 6850(but its not in my stores) some say 6870 which cost probably $200 they say its better to get an 7850 for same price which is reasonable, some also say 7850 is an overkill for the resolution your playing at and would not be the best for your buck.

So i really dont know! Once again i just want a good fps that doesnt drop down below where i will get a bad FPS like right now with my current build i struggle gaming with 11-25fps while on towns etc..

I want preferable 60 stable FPS no less than 40, if possible max settings or just medium or high thats best band for my buck.

 

[Sunius]

New monitor first . Trust me, you'll love the extra space for your UI!

 

[niker37]

i dont mind playing 1240x1080. Im not a HARDCORE gamer if you think i was...budget is my friend and playing at lower resolution which I only have usually lower prices for a good card.

anyways can you guys tell me what graphics card to get for my resolution and specs

 

[kracker]

I have a 7770, it's not weak, it can play skyrim at near 1080p on very high with ~40 fps most of the time, and most mmorpg's aren't really extremely taxing, I would say 7770 or 7850, if you can.

 

[techbaddie]

There are plenty of cards that will give you 60 FPS... Just depends on your budget as well.. How much do you want to spend?

 

[Embra]

If you are not going to upgrade your monitor anytime soon, a 7750 or 7770 will be more than enough for decent fps. If you get a 7770, it will play 1080p fairly well. If you chooses to upgrade your monitor later you have a card that will tide you over until you might decide to get something else.

 

[niker37]

my budget is no more than $200 like

sapphire radeon 6850 prices i like $140 for a good card thats better than 7700 sadly they dont sell it at my stores i would get 6870/7850 if its really worth that extra $90 or so..

but if i were to get 7700 what fps would i get approx with my specs(upgraded spec)

i want a card that will give me above 40+ FPS doesnt have to be ultra maybe medium or high is fine.

 

[mace200200]

As a non OCer, I like the 6850 better in the way that it performs, but it's an end of life card, the 7770 is newer and most of them are a bit cheaper so I would go with the 7770. Or a 1 gig 7850 will run around $180 and will beat up the 6870's.

I'm not much into intel, nothing against them I just have an AMD chip, but I believe the i5 3470's outperform the 2500k. And they cost the same.

 

[renz496]

for your res even 7750 will be enough for your need. if you really want to spend up to 200 ypu can look up to 7850

 

[niker37]

well i dont really want to spend $200 for a core but i really dont know im not experience someone just recommended me to get core..im guessing that my core is stronger than my graphic card

know any other core thats probably less than the price of the one i listed if possible?

 

[Mister-K81]

New monitor first . Trust me, you'll love the extra space for your UI!

Indeed. It's time to ditch that old 4:3 CRT monitor you're using for something better. Your eyes will thank you for it in the end. If you don't have the money for a new monitor + GPU, I almost suggest running the onboard intel HD3000 video temporarily and hold out until you can afford a GPU. The HD3000 can handle quite a few games at lower - middle settings.

But if you are going for a videocard for that machine, 7850, 7870 or 660 would be good.

 

[DarkSable]

This is off topic, but yeah, spend the $10 more to get an i5-3570k. It's newer technology, it's faster, ect. Get a cheaper motherboard and that CPU, because here's the thing...

A graphics card is going to want upgrading before a CPU is. That is, a 3570k will last without bottlenecking for three or four generations of video cards - a current graphics card won't be anything good after three generations of CPUs.

Also, at lower resolutions, the CPU matters proportionally more than at higher ones.

 

[Mister-K81]

This is off topic, but yeah, spend the $10 more to get an i5-3570k. It's newer technology, it's faster, ect. Get a cheaper motherboard and that CPU, because here's the thing...

A graphics card is going to want upgrading before a CPU is. That is, a 3570k will last without bottlenecking for three or four generations of video cards - a current graphics card won't be anything good after three generations of CPUs.

Also, at lower resolutions, the CPU matters proportionally more than at higher ones.

the 3570k is a little better buy, yeah. But there is nothing wrong with the 2500k if the original poster wants to save a some money. The 3570k does have a few benefits like lower wattage (77W vs 95W), PCIE 3.0 capability and gets about a rough estimate 15% performance gain. But the 2500k can safely be clocked to 3570k speeds with no issues and still holds its own just fine. I doubt you will see the 2500k be bottlenecked any time soon.

 

[abbadon_34]

GW2 is the only one you listed where a 7850 would make a difference, but once you increase your resolution...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,3268-6.html

 

[niker37]

in your opinion do you think my core and if i were to get a gfx 7850 that cost $200 would be an overkill in total all the specs would cost around $600.

I would gladly get 7700 maybe lower the core a bit to a $100-150 to the point where both or all my component will maximize its potential and wont be bothered bottlenecked. Also in total if $300-$400 rig.

If 7700 can give me a decent FPS for my resolution fine by me. Im guessing 40+.

Anyways for the monitor resolution advising me to get a bigger one, i dont think it can really happen as i dont know why. i need to upgrade my monitor..Like 1240x1028 ive been used to it all my life and its been working for me. Since all monitors are different sizes and each person has different preferences. Also incresaing monitor size gives u no benefits but to cost more money on your compnonents to provide that extra power for that resolution

EDIT: Sorry if my comment was a little bit 3 comments delayed i didnt see the new ones as i was writing this one.

 

[i8myhippo]

I think everyone is over-estimating how much power he needs. 1920x1080 is 2.073 million pixels. 1280x1080 is 1.382 million. In other words, calling it 1080p is overestimating the amount of power needed by 66%. (1.382/2.073)

 

[niker37]

@abbadon_34

why do i need to increase my resolution to see the difference in the 7850??

@Mister k-81
if 3570k is worth it in the future since this is probably the last time i will ever upgrade...
paying additional $20 is fine by me as long as its WOrth it.'

@darksable
is my motherboard fine as it is while upgrading this core to a 3570k? What should i do?

if i probably get 3570k i will end up getting 7850 but my motherboard same as it is?

@i8myhippo
this is what im thinknig aswell the other member recommended me a specs that was all less than $200 to play mmorpg game liek aion, gw2 as 7850 would be overkill etc...

he recommended me lower core,gfx to my resolution level and it was at quite good affordable price to where these components are actually decent enough for me .

i want to play at 40fps minimum

im thinking of

i5 3570k core $220
sapphire radeon hd 7700 $110 or 7850 $ 200
Asus P8Z77-V - $ 129.99

if i get 7700 with a good core like that will i still get the fps i want at max or atleast medium-high settings?
or lower that core? Also if i go WvWvW i better not get like 40fps below i should be able to still perform normal

 

[Vatafaks]

It's time to ditch that old 4:3 CRT monitor you're using for something better.

CRT? There were 1280x1024(5:4 btw) Crt's? Largest I can remember was 1024x768.
I think choice of monitor is matter of taste, for example I enjoy playing games on my 1280x1024 rather then on 1920x1080 monitor.

 

[Mister-K81]

@abbadon_34

why do i need to increase my resolution to see the difference in the 7850??

@Mister k-81
if 3570k is worth it in the future since this is probably the last time i will ever upgrade...
paying additional $20 is fine by me as long as its WOrth it.'

@darksable
is my motherboard fine as it is while upgrading this core to a 3570k? What should i do?

if i probably get 3570k i will end up getting 7850 but my motherboard same as it is?

Your motherboard selection is a Z77. It was made for third generation Ivy bridge CPU's and overclocking. It will handle both Sandy and Ivy bridge i3, i5 and i7's just fine, and that includes the 3570k.

CRT? There were 1280x1024(5:4 btw) Crt's? Largest I can remember was 1024x768.
I think choice of monitor is matter of taste, for example I enjoy playing games on my 1280x1024 rather then on 1920x1080 monitor.

1280x1024 is a pretty standard CRT resolution (I was wrong about the aspect ratio ) , I have had plenty of 1280x1024 CRT's over the years. I have even owned a few 1600x1024 resolution CRT's way back in 1999-2000-ish. LCD's with that native resolution are pretty rare to come by.

 

[kitsunestarwind]

Just as a reference my Media centre is a Intel Celeron G550 (2.6ghz sandy dual core) with a HD7770 , it runs GW2 at high settings @ 1080p res with generally anything from 30 to 60fps depending on combat and number of players around

 

[niker37]

Your motherboard selection is a Z77. It was made for third generation Ivy bridge CPU and overclocking. It will handle both Sandy and Ivy bridge i3, i5 and i7's just fine, and that includes the 3570k.

sorry but im no experienced and some member jsut recommended me this motherboard and you guys barely talked about it so im guessing its fine as it is. Also for overclocking i have no idea how to do that aswell..

Im thinking of maybe
i5 3570k $220
sapphire radeon hd 7850 $220
z77 $120
4x2 Corsair Vengeance $35
PSU Antec HGM-620w $85

=$680

Can you guys help me try and kinda bring it to $400-$500 if possible while maintaing good FPS in WvWvW or any place that cause high fps to drop, while maintaining good core to handle my gfx..im guessing that build is a high-end a medium end with good fps and core to support is fine by me.

@kitsune
can you tell me your fps in WvWvW if its fun factor for you like you dont lagg etc ..
everytime i go WvW in aion where there are alot of people maybe over 100+ or so i get 6-15fps at LOWEST settings. It pisses me off all the time i want a point where ill actually enjoy it

 

[abbadon_34]

what i meant was at your current resolution and with the games you listed, only GW2 would benefit from the 7850, based on the review and charts from Tom's (linked)

If/when you increase you resolution (I was and am of your opinion, fine at 1280x1024 on a CRT, then my monitor died and most options were LCD 1920x1080) you would also notice a difference in other games (non-MMO especially)

 

[niker37]

what i meant was at your current resolution and with the games you listed, only GW2 would benefit from the 7850, based on the review and charts from Tom's (linked)

If/when you increase you resolution (I was and am of your opinion, fine at 1280x1024 on a CRT, then my monitor died and most options were LCD 1920x1080) you would also notice a difference in other games (non-MMO especially)

i dont get it so 7850 will only increase fps in gw2 at my resolution but not in any other mmorpg unless i increase my monitor? why is this so if im currently getting 11-25 fps on my current gfx i will get the same if i upgrade with 7850 not unless i increase my resolution??

 

[Mister-K81]

sorry but im no experienced and some member jsut recommended me this motherboard and you guys barely talked about it so im guessing its fine as it is. Also for overclocking i have no idea how to do that aswell..

Don't worry about it . Bottom line is any z77 class motherboard will work just fine here. But if you have no intentions of overclocking, may I suggest downgrading from a i5 3570k to a i5 3570 (non K). Both cards get the same performance at stock speeds, but the "K" model is designed specifically for overclocking. You could overclock the "K" model to speeds past 4.5GHZ. But since you have no intentions of doing so, you could save almost 20 dollars and go with the non "K".

Also, if you don't plan on using a "K" CPU or have no plans on overclocking. Perhaps also consider changing from a Z77 to H77 motherboards. H77's don't have any overclocking abilities and are a bit cheaper. If you are not using an overclockable CPU then the H77 will be fine. Also pretty sure that H77's don't support SLI or Crossfire (two graphics cards at once).

Im thinking of maybe
i5 3570k $220
sapphire radeon hd 7850 $220
z77 $120
4x2 Corsair Vengeance $35
PSU Antec HGM-620w $85

=$680

Going by your last links, you are from Canada right? Well, I am too . are these prices with HST sales tax? Also what case do you plan on using?

Also, for your videocard, if you switch online retailers, you can get some pretty good deals on 7850's

$194 2GB Gigabyte 7850: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69494&vpn=GV-R785OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1016

$164 1GB Saphire 7850: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77258&vpn=11200-16-20G&manufacture=SAPPHIRE&promoid=1016

I don't know. Look around for deals.

Also try this site for price comparing:

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/parts/video-card/#c=81&sort=a5

 

[hdeezie80]

go with a gtx 660ti or 7850 AMD wise it will give you some headroom for playing anything besides mmo rpgs aswell