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November 7, 2012 8:19:58 PM

Hi so recently i upgraded my pc. from my old 6770 paired with and fx-4100 cpu.
im now running a HIS 7950 3gb and a fx-8120 i expected to get better fps but
im getting crazy low the max ive seen in any game was minecraft about 200 fps everyother game i cant get over 20
and when anything with any amount of effects happens i drop to 3 fps i have wiped all amd display drivers ect and reinstalled updated everything still no change
any idea whats causing this ? :(  also forgot to ad im running at 5760 1080 when i go back to using 1 display i get about 10 frames higher sometimes

Full system specs

Cpu amd fx-8120 @3.8ghz (water cooled by a H100)

Gpu radeon 7950 3gb

Mobo Asus M5A97 EVO

Ram 16gb ripjaws 1333 2x8GB sticks

Psu thermaltake litepower 600w psu

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November 7, 2012 8:26:31 PM

I do not like that power supply. It's a 600W Bronze-rated PSU.. not to mention you are running an AMD processor (which are known for being power hogs, with their 125W CPUs and all), and that 7950 is a power hog, as well... Good lord, no wonder why you're having issues.

Get a better power supply, one that is from Corsair. Your current PSU is acting as a bottleneck for your system.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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November 7, 2012 8:27:06 PM

Have you try overclocking your CPU and the 7950?
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November 7, 2012 8:34:29 PM

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I do not like that power supply. It's a 600W Bronze-rated PSU.. not to mention you are running an AMD processor (which are known for being power hogs, with their 125W CPUs and all), and that 7950 is a power hog, as well... Good lord, no wonder why you're having issues.

Get a better power supply, one that is from Corsair. Your current PSU is acting as a bottleneck for your system.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139012


i also thought this but many people are telling me that psu is not the issue

and no i haven't tried overclocking because if my psu is the issue o dont really want to be drawing more power from it
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November 7, 2012 8:38:12 PM

Is it a reference 7950 because those don't perform well as the non reference
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November 7, 2012 8:50:18 PM

kurtinator177 said:
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I do not like that power supply. It's a 600W Bronze-rated PSU.. not to mention you are running an AMD processor (which are known for being power hogs, with their 125W CPUs and all), and that 7950 is a power hog, as well... Good lord, no wonder why you're having issues.

Get a better power supply, one that is from Corsair. Your current PSU is acting as a bottleneck for your system.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139012


i also thought this but many people are telling me that psu is not the issue

and no i haven't tried overclocking because if my psu is the issue o dont really want to be drawing more power from it

I really feel confident that the PSU is the issue. A bronze-rated 600W PSU is not performing as it should be. If I were you, I would take a gamble with that 650W gold-rated Corsair PSU. That will most likely solve your issues... Give it some thought.


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November 7, 2012 8:51:44 PM

I think your cpu is the issue nothing a overclock couldn't fix but wait for more reply's because i am not 100% sure i am right lol.
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November 7, 2012 8:52:49 PM

is your game updated? try updating it.
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November 7, 2012 8:53:58 PM

GoldenI said:
I really feel confident that the PSU is the issue. A bronze-rated 600W PSU is not performing as it should be. If I were you, I would take a gamble with that 650W gold-rated Corsair PSU. That will most likely solve your issues... Give it some thought.


i have strongly considerd it i did go cheap on my psu with my inital build i guess its about time for a new one im ethier getting this http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=5112 due to it matching the colour scheme i have havnt really found any reviews or this http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=4988 ?
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November 7, 2012 8:55:12 PM

xaos24 said:
is your game updated? try updating it.


yes all my games and i have alot of games are update my catalyst divers update bios up to date everything is up to date
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November 7, 2012 9:06:21 PM

If the PSU wasn't supplying enough power the system would crash, have bluescreens, or simply restart when it was put under load. It wouldn't throttle the GPU or limit FPS like you're experiencing.

What version of the AMD drivers are you using?
Are you using any overclocking software (MSI Afterburner, Sapphire Trixx, etc.)?
Do you have Fraps or another recording program running?

You can use GPU-Z to get a few important bits of information about your graphics card for us. You can download it from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2181/mirrors.php

What I'm mostly interested in is the GPU Clock on the "Graphics Card" tab and the GPU Temp on the "Sensors" tab. If your card is having issues it'll likely be related to one of those 2 values.

Download GPU-Z, open it, and then start playing a game that you have low FPS in. Alt-tab over to GPU-Z and write down what you see for GPU Clock and GPU Temp. Reply back here with those numbers and it'll let us know if your graphics card is having issues or if it's something else.

Better yet, if you can get a screenshot of GPU-Z and post it we can tell you if anything looks amiss.
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November 7, 2012 9:42:43 PM

WithoutWeakness said:
If the PSU wasn't supplying enough power the system would crash, have bluescreens, or simply restart when it was put under load. It wouldn't throttle the GPU or limit FPS like you're experiencing.

What version of the AMD drivers are you using?
Are you using any overclocking software (MSI Afterburner, Sapphire Trixx, etc.)?
Do you have Fraps or another recording program running?

You can use GPU-Z to get a few important bits of information about your graphics card for us. You can download it from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2181/mirrors.php

What I'm mostly interested in is the GPU Clock on the "Graphics Card" tab and the GPU Temp on the "Sensors" tab. If your card is having issues it'll likely be related to one of those 2 values.

Download GPU-Z, open it, and then start playing a game that you have low FPS in. Alt-tab over to GPU-Z and write down what you see for GPU Clock and GPU Temp. Reply back here with those numbers and it'll let us know if your graphics card is having issues or if it's something else.

Better yet, if you can get a screenshot of GPU-Z and post it we can tell you if anything looks amiss.


im not using any OC software and i used fraps to messure the fps i have 2 screen shots from gpuz how do i add them to my thread im new to the whole forum thing

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November 7, 2012 9:43:24 PM

get msi afterburner and monitor the gpu usage.
I would get rid of that psu as well
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November 7, 2012 9:52:30 PM

kurtinator177 said:
Hi so recently i upgraded my pc. from my old 6770 paired with and fx-4100 cpu.
im now running a HIS 7950 3gb and a fx-8120 i expected to get better fps but
im getting crazy low the max ive seen in any game was minecraft about 200 fps everyother game i cant get over 20
and when anything with any amount of effects happens i drop to 3 fps i have wiped all amd display drivers ect and reinstalled updated everything still no change
any idea whats causing this ? :(  also forgot to ad im running at 5760 1080 when i go back to using 1 display i get about 10 frames higher sometimes

Full system specs

Cpu amd fx-8120 @3.1ghz (water cooled by a H100)

Gpu radeon 7950 3gb

Mobo Asus M5A97 EVO

Ram 16gb ripjaws 1333 2x8GB sticks

Psu thermaltake litepower 600w psu

You will probably need to overclock the cpu to 4.0ghz and the card you have has a base core clock of 800mhz and you would want to OC that to 900mhz or better. Running Eyefinity takes some power for high fps with high settings. If you not want to OC then you probably get increased fps with lower settings.
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November 7, 2012 9:55:23 PM

5760x1080 on a single 7950 without any overclocking is can be very demanding with many games and at or near maxed out settings, but it shouldn't bring you into the single digits pf FPS unless something is broken. What games are you playing and at what settings?

What version of Windows are you running and is it fully up to date?

Are any of your components overheating?

One possibility is that the 7950 you have is faulty and in that case, a replacement (perhaps through an RMA) may fix the issue (some people may disagree with me here, but I've seen far too many examples of this to disregard the possibility).

It's actually possible that your PSU is causing issues, but it is unlikely that it'd do something like this. Possible, but unlikely.
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November 7, 2012 9:57:26 PM

WithoutWeakness said:
If the PSU wasn't supplying enough power the system would crash, have bluescreens, or simply restart when it was put under load. It wouldn't throttle the GPU or limit FPS like you're experiencing.

What version of the AMD drivers are you using?
Are you using any overclocking software (MSI Afterburner, Sapphire Trixx, etc.)?
Do you have Fraps or another recording program running?

You can use GPU-Z to get a few important bits of information about your graphics card for us. You can download it from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2181/mirrors.php

What I'm mostly interested in is the GPU Clock on the "Graphics Card" tab and the GPU Temp on the "Sensors" tab. If your card is having issues it'll likely be related to one of those 2 values.

Download GPU-Z, open it, and then start playing a game that you have low FPS in. Alt-tab over to GPU-Z and write down what you see for GPU Clock and GPU Temp. Reply back here with those numbers and it'll let us know if your graphics card is having issues or if it's something else.

Better yet, if you can get a screenshot of GPU-Z and post it we can tell you if anything looks amiss.


http://gyazo.com/2da41d8586e38a826312c48ec63eb4ce GPU-Z

http://gyazo.com/969504fcc2716b8188fba7864556542a GPU-Z sensors

http://gyazo.com/5a561f2076e32d3f95c73a14ad117a91 core temp

took all theses straight after alt tabbing from the game i was playing the new nfs most wanted as i only get 20fps and on the warz i get 16-19 and its hardly graphics intensive also get about the same for bf3 and arma 2
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November 7, 2012 9:59:49 PM

kurtinator177 said:
http://gyazo.com/2da41d8586e38a826312c48ec63eb4ce GPU-Z

http://gyazo.com/969504fcc2716b8188fba7864556542a GPU-Z sensors

http://gyazo.com/5a561f2076e32d3f95c73a14ad117a91 core temp

took all theses straight after alt tabbing from the game i was playing the new nfs most wanted as i only get 20fps and on the warz i get 16-19 and its hardly graphics intensive also get about the same for bf3 and arma 2


That doesn't look anything like a CPU bottle-neck to me. The CPU is hardly being stressed at all.
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November 7, 2012 10:01:21 PM

blazorthon said:
5760x1080 on a single 7950 without any overclocking is can be very demanding with many games and at or near maxed out settings, but it shouldn't bring you into the single digits except in faulty games. What games are you playing and at what settings?

What version of Windows are you running and is it fully up to date?

Are any of your components overheating?


im using windows 7 ultimate 64bit

and im playing bf3 arma2 the warz LoL minecraft
some simulators need for speed the run need for speed most wanted 2012
i get low fps on everything except minecraft i get a ridiculous 298fps

everything seems update par service pack 1 for windows 7 as it never installs properly i run all of these games at the highest settings exept bf3 otherwise it is completely unplayable
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November 7, 2012 10:03:05 PM

kurtinator177 said:
im using windows 7 ultimate 64bit

and im playing bf3 arma2 the warz LoL minecraft
some simulators need for speed the run need for speed most wanted 2012
i get low fps on everything except minecraft i get a ridiculous 298fps

evrything seems update par service pack 1 for windows 7 as it never installs properly


Depending on the settings that you're playing at, around 10-20FPS or thereabouts is possible in BF3 at 5760x1080. That's a very intensive game at a very high resolution. Getting say 3FPS, though, that seems too low even for BF3 with maxed out settings at 5760x1080 and a 7950 with an FX-8120.
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November 7, 2012 10:05:41 PM

also in cpu-z it recognise my gpu as a 6700 series wicj is what my old gfx card was ?
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November 7, 2012 10:09:33 PM

kurtinator177 said:
also in cpu-z it recognise my gpu as a 6700 series wicj is what my old gfx card was ?


You didn't fix the drivers properly. That's what I'd think is happening based on that info.
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November 7, 2012 10:15:50 PM

get driver sweeper. start over
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November 7, 2012 10:16:26 PM

NONONO not driver sweeper for Windows 7 x64. Driver sweeper is way outdated. Get Driver Fusion. That's a version of Driver Sweeper that isn't like four or five years old.
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November 7, 2012 10:17:41 PM

blazorthon said:
NONONO not driver sweeper. Driver sweeper is way outdated. Get Driver Fusion. That's a version of Driver Sweeper that isn't like four or five years old.


i was told not use any driver sweepers but i will give it a go a link to driver fusion would be nice
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November 7, 2012 10:18:52 PM

kurtinator177 said:
i was told not use any driver sweepers but i will give it a go a link to driver fusion would be nice


http://treexy.com/external?url=http://download.cnet.com...

What you do is boot into safe mode, uninstall the AMD/Ati graphics drivers through regular uninstallers/Windows, and restart back into safe mode. Then you run Driver Fusion and delete all Intel/Ati/AMD/Nvidia graphics drivers on your computer. Restart into safe mode and run driver Fusion again to see if it left anything. If it did, then try it again. If not, then restart normally and install the newest AMD Catalyst drivers (12.11 v4 IIRC is the newest beta) and any CAPs and such as necessary.

There are probably many other good ways of updating your drivers, but this works for me and I've suggested it to a lot of other people and never heard back about problems.
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November 7, 2012 10:19:01 PM

Wait.... pump the brakes the reason why is the monitor res bro my god what do you expect one 7950 to do sure it's a powerful card but but most use two card set ups on high res monitor.I didn't catch onto your monitor res at first my bad.
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November 7, 2012 10:19:48 PM

did you see the post that said " if i use one monitor it benefits by maybe 10 fps"?
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November 7, 2012 10:20:30 PM

im running at 5760 1080 when i go back to using 1 display i get about 10 frames higher sometimes
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November 7, 2012 10:24:41 PM

FlintIronStagg said:
im running at 5760 1080 when i go back to using 1 display i get about 10 frames higher sometimes


The difference should be a lot higher. Report back after updating your drivers like I suggested (or if someone suggests a better way, try that) and then we'l see if you're still having such problems.
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November 7, 2012 10:25:30 PM

blazorthon said:
The difference should be a lot higher. Report back after updating your drivers like I suggested (or if someone suggests a better way, try that) and then we'l see if you're still having such problems.


cleaning all my drivers and re installing them now should have a status update in the next 30 mins
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November 7, 2012 10:25:36 PM

FlintIronStagg said:
did you see the post that said " if i use one monitor it benefits by maybe 10 fps"?
Yeah you guys are going to half to help him my kids are acting up and i can't think straight :pt1cable:  :lol:  later guys good luck OP hope it gets resolved.
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November 7, 2012 10:25:47 PM

i agree this is driver related. a 600w psu should be able to run that setup.
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November 7, 2012 10:29:40 PM

FlintIronStagg said:
i agree this is driver related. a 600w psu should be able to run that setup.


i believe my psu is supposed to boost to 700w under heavy use as well or so the box says
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November 7, 2012 10:30:07 PM

"max power draw 700w" with an 80 plus of 600w... sounds fine
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November 7, 2012 10:30:41 PM

some people gasp over my rocket turd 900w... 80 plus silver ftw!
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November 7, 2012 10:38:29 PM

Why are you all arguing over wattage? Wattage doesn't matter much at all. What matters is positive 12V power delivery because that's the power used by most power-heavy components these days such as CPUs and graphics cards. A 1000W PSU that only has say 20amps on the +12V rail is still not going to be able to run any card that consumes more power than a Radeon 7750 too well and a 400W PSU with an ~30 amp +12V rail or two ~17 amp +12V rails can usually easily power even a Radeon 7950 so long as you don't have a ridiculously power-hungry CPU.
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November 7, 2012 10:39:48 PM

thats 600w assumed the 12v rail actually can support it. stop splitting hairs here.
i have 5 rails in the ol Rocket turd
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November 7, 2012 10:47:59 PM

FlintIronStagg said:
thats 600w assumed the 12v rail actually can support it. stop splitting hairs here.
i have 5 rails in the ol Rocket turd


i supposedly have dual dedicated 12v rails
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November 7, 2012 11:12:44 PM

it is a 500w with peak 600w.
you have 25A on 12v1 and 20A on 12v2.... which should be just fine for what youre doing.
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November 7, 2012 11:50:41 PM

ok so drivers have been wiped triple checked to make sure nothing was left behind and forced a full cleanup not noticing any fps difference in need for speed most wanted 2012 still a steady 20fps i do notice that when alot of objects are flying around or im overtaking other cars the fps actually goes up ? im going to go test some other games to see if theres any improvment ther cpu-z still thinks my gfx is a 6700 with 1024mb of vram
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November 8, 2012 12:31:37 AM

kurtinator177 said:
im running a benchmark now i can only do it at 1280x720 as i need to pay touse higher options


That's normal... typo on my part when mentioned 1920x1080. I edited my post.
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November 8, 2012 1:55:20 AM

ok so i have played about every game on my system and ran some benchmarks

and my pc is still running like a bucket of ***

3dmark11 i should be getting around P8700

i only get P6426 at 720p :(  really can not figure this out ive tried everything

including overclocking the cpu im at a stable 3.8ghz and about to try for 4
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November 8, 2012 2:38:14 AM

CPU performance is not the problem, of that I'm very sure.
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November 8, 2012 2:55:03 AM

blazorthon said:
CPU performance is not the problem, of that I'm very sure.


i dont think it is either but im about ready to try anything just tried out just cause 2 and it ran at steady 60fps in 5760x180 :D  if only all my games would do this
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November 8, 2012 3:07:39 AM

kurtinator177 said:
i dont think it is either but im about ready to try anything just tried out just cause 2 and it ran at steady 60fps in 5760x180 :D  if only all my games would do this


Try lowering the quality settings.
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