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November 10, 2012 2:16:38 AM

I currently have a gtx 560 ti and I'm looking to upgrade. I plan on staying 1080p single monitor for a while and I want to get the best card possible for $450. I'm looking at gtx 670, 680 and AMD 7970. The 7970 Sapphire Vapor-X is suppose to be one of the best cards but Newegg tax brings the price up to $500. Also the only free game that interests me is Sleeping Dogs so the free games aren't a big deal to me. Finally, what is the difference between the 7970 ghz edition and non-ghz edition?
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November 10, 2012 2:28:56 AM

for your budget maybe GTX670? what is the price after tax?

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Finally, what is the difference between the 7970 ghz edition and non-ghz edition?


reference 7970 non Ghz edition are clock around 925mhz on the core and the ghz edition are clocked 1Ghz out of the box for the reference version. but some people feels that amd releasing the Ghz edition are quite useless given most of the 7970 able to OC past that easily and there are few vendors out there that selling 7970 with core clock surpassing 1 Ghz. but the way i heard about it the Ghz version are using better chips than used by normal 7970 which meant to get 1Ghz out of the box is guaranteed and there is a chance the card able to reach higher OC than the normal 7970 can do
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November 10, 2012 3:14:01 AM

7970 is overkill for 1080p. something like a 7870 would be a better buy
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November 10, 2012 3:52:27 AM

renz496 said:
for your budget maybe GTX670? what is the price after tax?

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Finally, what is the difference between the 7970 ghz edition and non-ghz edition?


reference 7970 non Ghz edition are clock around 925mhz on the core and the ghz edition are clocked 1Ghz out of the box for the reference version. but some people feels that amd releasing the Ghz edition are quite useless given most of the 7970 able to OC past that easily and there are few vendors out there that selling 7970 with core clock surpassing 1 Ghz. but the way i heard about it the Ghz version are using better chips than used by normal 7970 which meant to get 1Ghz out of the box is guaranteed and there is a chance the card able to reach higher OC than the normal 7970 can do
+1 and well amd new drivers plus the three free games make it to card to pass on but still doesn't make 660 or 670 bad choice if you prefer NV.The price is fair imo.I am a fan of both i try not to sip red/green drink to much.I bought 670's because at the time they were better bang for buck then 7970 and i don't regret buying them to this day i can murder anything i throw at them so i am happy with my choice.I bought my son Sapphire's HD 7950 Vapor-X he enjoys it very much you half to look at the features each card offers and decide which you prefer the 680 is not worth it's price yet unfortunately because it's only 7% faster then a 670 that's not worth $100 extra imo i would recommend Sapphire's HD 7950 Vapor-X comes with a large dual-fan cooler that uses the company's famous vapor-chamber technology. On the Vapor-X you will also find a "Lethal Boost" button which switches to a second BIOS with higher clock speeds. With this BIOS, clocks are increased to 950 MHz GPU and 1250 MHz memory.

Pricing of the Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X is $330 which is a 10% premium.Here are professional reviews of the card if your interested:


http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4900/sapphire_radeon_h...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vap...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2050/1/
The other card i recommend MSI's GTX 670 Power Edition uses the famous Twin Frozr IV cooler from the MSI Lightning and comes with a large clock speed boost out of the box, making its default clock speed even higher than GTX 680 stock clocks.That would be a solid choice for the price imo they currently are going for $389.99 a piece that doesn't look unreasonable, given the improved cooling and higher clocks but it's up to you. The cooler is fantastic, it overclocks well, and it performs well above the reference designs that are only a few dollars cheaper. It is dead silent when at load, and even when it was overclocked. The card is just a beast plan and simply put i own two and am very pleased.




Here are professional reviews of the card if your interested:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-670-power...
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4779/msi_geforce_gtx_6...

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November 10, 2012 3:56:47 AM

esq93 said:
I currently have a gtx 560 ti and I'm looking to upgrade. I plan on staying 1080p single monitor for a while and I want to get the best card possible for $450. I'm looking at gtx 670, 680 and AMD 7970. The 7970 Sapphire Vapor-X is suppose to be one of the best cards but Newegg tax brings the price up to $500. Also the only free game that interests me is Sleeping Dogs so the free games aren't a big deal to me. Finally, what is the difference between the 7970 ghz edition and non-ghz edition?


Honestly a 7870 is the perfect card for 1080p. They can also be found for under $230 quite often. Otherwise a 7970 GHz is the strongest card out and it can OC to 1300 MHz usually.
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November 10, 2012 4:06:13 AM

nevermind

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November 10, 2012 4:25:10 AM

I think the 7870 is the best buy, but if you have the cash go for 7970 or gtx 680
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November 10, 2012 5:15:12 AM

Azn Cracker said:
I think the 7870 is the best buy, but if you have the cash go for 7970 or gtx 680


The 680 is a huge rip off compared to the 7970 GHz and 670.
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November 10, 2012 5:28:07 AM

I would say a GTX 660 or an HD 7870. Don't really think you should spend much more than $200 on a GPU for a single 1080p monitor.
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November 10, 2012 6:05:17 AM

Ironslice said:
I would say a GTX 660 or an HD 7870. Don't really think you should spend much more than $200 on a GPU for a single 1080p monitor.

exactly
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November 10, 2012 6:25:56 AM

It depends on what games you play.

You will need at least a 7950 to play bf3 at 60 fps with ultra presets.
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November 10, 2012 6:40:45 AM

bawchicawawa said:
It depends on what games you play.

You will need at least a 7950 to play bf3 at 60 fps with ultra presets.


No you won't. I have two 6950's. One of mine can run 1080p BF3 on ultra just fine above 40 FPS (No AA). A 7870 is quite stronger so he would be fine. But then again why does it HAVE to be 60 FPS? It's fun to shoot for, but would 50 really be a problem?
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November 10, 2012 6:52:24 AM

its probably the frame rate dips that annoy a lot of gamers.
so they use a hi end card like 7950 for 1080p so that their minimum frame rate does not dip below 60 fps.
this method works for only certain class of people ( rich people) lol
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November 10, 2012 10:58:51 AM

I would agree on a gtx 660 or an amd 7870.

But keep in mind that gtx 660 got all the newest Technologies (FXAA, TXAA), it has boost which Means your Card overclocks itself, mine goes from 980 mHz to 1110,5 mHz while gaming and of course lovely physx.

Buy your call. :) 
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November 10, 2012 12:32:31 PM

7970 is overkill for 1080p gaming
7850 is sufficient for 1080p gaming
7770 is capable of 1080p gaming
6670 is insufficient for 1080p gaming
6450 is incapable of 1080p gaming
thats how it goes.
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November 10, 2012 12:57:57 PM

mohit9206 said:
7970 is overkill for 1080p. something like a 7870 would be a better buy


Ironslice said:
I would say a GTX 660 or an HD 7870. Don't really think you should spend much more than $200 on a GPU for a single 1080p monitor.


he has the money why not just go straight for 670 or 7970? to some it might be overkill but with such extra raw power he can max out any graphical setting with ease.
also the big plus is he most likely able to keep it for longer time before he needs to upgrade again unless he moves to bigger resolution or start playing around triple-monitor-gaming or simply buying new card for every generation is a hobby for him. :D 

when i got my 460 it was quite overkill for my 1600x900 resolution but it was worth it. almost had for two years and still going strong in most games. go overkill now and it might saves your money in the future because you don't need to upgrade when the graphical setting become more demanding than it is now

just my opinion though :kaola: 
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November 10, 2012 1:24:03 PM

renz496 said:
he has the money why not just go straight for 670 or 7970? to some it might be overkill but with such extra raw power he can max out any graphical setting with ease.
also the big plus is he most likely able to keep it for longer time before he needs to upgrade again unless he moves to bigger resolution or start playing around triple-monitor-gaming or simply buying new card for every generation is a hobby for him. :D 

when i got my 460 it was quite overkill for my 1600x900 resolution but it was worth it. almost had for two years and still going strong in most games. go overkill now and it might saves your money in the future because you don't need to upgrade when the graphical setting become more demanding than it is now

just my opinion though :kaola: 
:lol:  Not just your opinion i agree as well :kaola: 
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November 10, 2012 1:31:19 PM

If you really want a high end card and assuming the 7950's or 670's prices are reasonable, you could get those and OC them.

An OCed 7950 and 670 can match a 7970 and 680.

Also, Nividia's 600s generally have lower memory bandwidth, so anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering will be limited somewhat (especially on mid-lower end 600s). They also have inferior OCing capability compared to AMD's 7000s due to voltage restriction.
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November 10, 2012 2:38:32 PM

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+1 and well amd new drivers plus the three free games make it to card to pass on but still doesn't make 660 or 670 bad choice if you prefer NV.The price is fair imo.I am a fan of both i try not to sip red/green drink to much.I bought 670's because at the time they were better bang for buck then 7970 and i don't regret buying them to this day i can murder anything i throw at them so i am happy with my choice.I bought my son Sapphire's HD 7950 Vapor-X he enjoys it very much you half to look at the features each card offers and decide which you prefer the 680 is not worth it's price yet unfortunately because it's only 7% faster then a 670 that's not worth $100 extra imo i would recommend Sapphire's HD 7950 Vapor-X comes with a large dual-fan cooler that uses the company's famous vapor-chamber technology. On the Vapor-X you will also find a "Lethal Boost" button which switches to a second BIOS with higher clock speeds. With this BIOS, clocks are increased to 950 MHz GPU and 1250 MHz memory. ]http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2920/1110700x371.jpg

Pricing of the Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X is $330 which is a 10% premium.Here are professional reviews of the card if your interested:


http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4900/sapphire_radeon_h...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vap...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2050/1/
The other card i recommend MSI's GTX 670 Power Edition uses the famous Twin Frozr IV cooler from the MSI Lightning and comes with a large clock speed boost out of the box, making its default clock speed even higher than GTX 680 stock clocks.That would be a solid choice for the price imo they currently are going for $389.99 a piece that doesn't look unreasonable, given the improved cooling and higher clocks but it's up to you. The cooler is fantastic, it overclocks well, and it performs well above the reference designs that are only a few dollars cheaper. It is dead silent when at load, and even when it was overclocked. The card is just a beast plan and simply put i own two and am very pleased. ]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4306/msigtx670pe03.jpg


]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/91/477902msigeforcegtx670p.jpg


Here are professional reviews of the card if your interested:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-670-power...
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4779/msi_geforce_gtx_6...




Always the same reply :pfff: 
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November 10, 2012 2:41:47 PM

And yes. Go for the 7970 and enjoy gaming at 1400p 60FPS for 2-3 years! :) 
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November 10, 2012 2:41:59 PM

ProVisionOman said:
Always the same reply :pfff: 
:hello: 
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November 10, 2012 2:54:24 PM

bigcyco1 said:
:hello: 

Oh yeah Hi BTW :whistle: 
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November 10, 2012 2:56:52 PM

ProVisionOman said:
Oh yeah Hi BTW :whistle: 
:whistle:  :lol: 
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November 10, 2012 9:41:37 PM

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I would agree on a gtx 660 or an amd 7870.

But keep in mind that gtx 660 got all the newest Technologies (FXAA, TXAA), it has boost which Means your Card overclocks itself, mine goes from 980 mHz to 1110,5 mHz while gaming and of course lovely physx.

Buy your call. :) 


So many errors:

-The 7870 definately has FXAA and TXAA (I have 6950 CF and I use both so idk where you get your info)
-The 7000 series over clocks itself too. It is common to have 7950's at 1200 MHz and 7970's at 1300+ MHz
-Physx is mostly useless. Even when I have nVidia cards I just turn it off. Not worth the performance hit to have extra sh%t block your vision.
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November 11, 2012 1:34:19 AM

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The 7870 definately has FXAA and TXAA (I have 6950 CF and I use both so idk where you get your info)


FXAA are available to both nvidia and amd cards. but for nvidia cards you got an option from nvidia control panel to force FXAA being use in any game that does not support FXAA function natively. AFAIK such option does not exist for AMD cards so you can only use FXAA for games that have FXAA built in or using FXAA injector to force FXAA being use in any game.

TXAA is nvidia only technology that only available to nvidia latest gen gpu. did you mean AMD own MLAA? details about TXAA can be found here:

http://www.geforce.com/landing-page/txaa

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The 7000 series over clocks itself too. It is common to have 7950's at 1200 MHz and 7970's at 1300+ MHz


AMD boost clock feature are not the same as nvidia. you can only get those 1300Mhz+ on 7970 when you manually OC the card. the boost only increase the card's speed by 50Mhz from 1000Mhz to 1050Mhz. from TPU review on 7970Ghz Edition:

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AMD has introduced a new "boost" clocking mechanism with this card, but it is nothing close to what NVIDIA offers. I think a more accurate description would be that the card "boosts" from its default of 1050 MHz down to a clock speed of 1000 MHz and reduced voltage, when it senses a power overload situation, that's it.


source: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit...



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November 11, 2012 3:47:46 AM

renz496 said:
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The 7870 definately has FXAA and TXAA (I have 6950 CF and I use both so idk where you get your info)


FXAA are available to both nvidia and amd cards. but for nvidia cards you got an option from nvidia control panel to force FXAA being use in any game that does not support FXAA function natively. AFAIK such option does not exist for AMD cards so you can only use FXAA for games that have FXAA built in or using FXAA injector to force FXAA being use in any game.

TXAA is nvidia only technology that only available to nvidia latest gen gpu. did you mean AMD own MLAA? details about TXAA can be found here:

http://www.geforce.com/landing-page/txaa

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The 7000 series over clocks itself too. It is common to have 7950's at 1200 MHz and 7970's at 1300+ MHz


AMD boost clock feature are not the same as nvidia. you can only get those 1300Mhz+ on 7970 when you manually OC the card. the boost only increase the card's speed by 50Mhz from 1000Mhz to 1050Mhz. from TPU review on 7970Ghz Edition:

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AMD has introduced a new "boost" clocking mechanism with this card, but it is nothing close to what NVIDIA offers. I think a more accurate description would be that the card "boosts" from its default of 1050 MHz down to a clock speed of 1000 MHz and reduced voltage, when it senses a power overload situation, that's it.


source: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit...


The point is nvidia really doesn't do anything AMD can't (I already covered Physx). By your logic it should be a point to mention AMD has Triple buffering (which forces a much more stable framerate and removes tearing). I like that feature but it isn't worth mentioning. Also both boost features are largely pointless. Graphics cards stay cycled down far lower than the "normal speed" and once a game is in use there is no reason for it to run any slower than your highest stable over clock (Or what ever the highest speed is you want). I fail to see the point of boost.
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November 11, 2012 4:56:31 AM

no offence buti just responded to your claim that Radeon also able to do TXAA just like nvidia cards which is completely false. FXAA or MLAA can be forced through control panel but with TXAA the feature must be implemented into the game itself. it does not matter if AMD have something similar to it but the point is TXAA is nvidia tech and it only available to 600 series cards. also when you mention the HD7k series also have boost feature you made it sound the like card able to boost itself to 1200-1300. you did not mention those clocks are attain when you manually OC the card. for people that are new to this stuff such statement can be misleading.

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November 11, 2012 2:33:42 PM

RENZ496 I agree. But he's right. OMG Just get a 7970/670 and close the thread. Both will play 1080p 60+FPS. Sure 7970 more frames.. But over 60 doesn't matter unless you're recording. Have fun! IF he's asking about which GPU... Would he give a *** about these things that take time to learn if he isn't actually giving any effort into searching? (NO OFFENSE) HUH?
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November 11, 2012 6:05:07 PM

renz496 said:
no offence buti just responded to your claim that Radeon also able to do TXAA just like nvidia cards which is completely false. FXAA or MLAA can be forced through control panel but with TXAA the feature must be implemented into the game itself. it does not matter if AMD have something similar to it but the point is TXAA is nvidia tech and it only available to 600 series cards. also when you mention the HD7k series also have boost feature you made it sound the like card able to boost itself to 1200-1300. you did not mention those clocks are attain when you manually OC the card. for people that are new to this stuff such statement can be misleading.

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Your not bringing up anything new. Like I said it doesn't matter. Also OC a card is no more manual than "manually" downloading drivers/ enabling CF/SLI. It's easy and in my opinion boost of any kind is pointless.
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November 11, 2012 7:43:44 PM

Get a 7950, it runs BF3 ultra 80+ fps 1080p 23' monitor
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November 11, 2012 10:31:02 PM

Ideally, you'd want to go for a GTX 670 - MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte and EVGA all make great cards.

I would say the MSI is the best but people are reporting that the overvolting is causing problems. MSI is probably best for raw power, ASUS run very quitely, Gigabyte run cool, and EVGA are a mixture really i've heard the EVGA GTX 670 FTW is very good and is almost at gtx 680 performance (correct me if i'm wrong). Either way whichever card you get you'll be pleased.
MSI: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008 [...] -6&pi=SL75
ASUS: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008 [...] -8&pi=SL75
Gigabyte: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008 [...] -2&pi=SL75
EVGA: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008 [...] -1&pi=SL75
Hope this helps!
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November 13, 2012 1:37:48 PM

go for 670
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November 13, 2012 3:40:58 PM

Go for 7950
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November 13, 2012 4:28:46 PM

670 for little less performance and: Cooler, less power consumption.
7950 for: More performance, better overclockage, and longer lifetime (Faster bandwidth and more vRam)
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November 13, 2012 6:33:10 PM

which one perfoms better on cod4 mw3????
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November 13, 2012 6:57:48 PM

Nobody knows that yet lol.These kind of threads are stupid 7950/7970 GTX 670/680 all beasts get which ever doesn't matter if your gaming all will serve you well all preform within spitting distance of one another period.
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November 13, 2012 7:00:15 PM

^ both card will get you 100+ on 1080p
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November 14, 2012 9:23:12 AM

Yes. Get what's cheaper in Local Stores :) 
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November 14, 2012 11:51:57 PM

Use pcpartpicker to get the cheapest price on all websites.
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