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Hi. I'm new to this NG, so I hope I'm not inadvertantly
retreading old ground or anything.

I just got an EOS 350D, and I have a peculiar problem. I put
the CF card in the side as the instructions say. When I came
to eject the card, I can't get it out!

The instructions say simply "push the eject button... the
CF card will be ejected".

But when I pushed the button down it just clicked into place
flat against the surface of the camera; the card didn't
budge an inch. The button won't pull out or push in, twist
or turn or anything else.

Have a look at this to see what I mean. Two rather poor
quality images I'm afraid but you get the idea :

http://www.ditl.org/hiview.jpg
http://www.ditl.org/lowerview.jpg

This is the first time I've used a digital camera of any
kind, so I'm horribly afraid that I have done something
really stupid.

So, two questions - one, am I missing something obvious?
And two, if I get a small pair of pliers and just pull that
card out by brute force, is it likely to break anything?

Thanks in advance for any help anybody can offer...

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Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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Hiya,

I looks like the card eject mechanism is broken.

The camera is so new the warranty will cover you for this; don't even
attempt to fix it yourself, take it back and get it repaired/swapped
for a non jiggered camera.

Prefereably get it swapped. This is the part where mail order becomes a
bit of hinderance, and being able to walk into a shop comes into its
own.

Good luck.

HTH,

P.

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Pete wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> I looks like the card eject mechanism is broken.
>
> The camera is so new the warranty will cover you for this; don't even
> attempt to fix it yourself, take it back and get it repaired/swapped
> for a non jiggered camera.
>
> Prefereably get it swapped. This is the part where mail order becomes a
> bit of hinderance, and being able to walk into a shop comes into its
> own.

Huh, I bought it off eBay... :-(

Thanks for the advice though.

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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Graham Kennedy wrote:
> Pete wrote:
>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> I looks like the card eject mechanism is broken.
>>
>> The camera is so new the warranty will cover you for this; don't
>> even
>> attempt to fix it yourself, take it back and get it
>> repaired/swapped
>> for a non jiggered camera.
>>
>> Prefereably get it swapped. This is the part where mail order
>> becomes a bit of hinderance, and being able to walk into a shop
>> comes into its own.
>
> Huh, I bought it off eBay... :-(
>
> Thanks for the advice though.

Of the half-dozen CF card appliances I have at hand, five release the
card with a firm push on the button. The sixth requires the firm push
and then another twentieth-inch to convince it to release the card.

Of the more-than-a-dozen CF cards I have, all but one release smoothly
from the five firm-push receptacles. That one requires a little
persuasion to come out. The combination of the two difficult
items-card and slot-takes both the extra fraction of a push and a
little persuasion.

I infer that the range of tolerances is such that a really extreme
example of each, in the wrong direction, could be a serious
jam-session.

I suggest that if you haven't done it, a strong push with something
more rigid than a thumbnail, applied to a backed-up camera, might trip
the mechanism.

Otherwise, Mr Camera Repair Man must be the solution.

--
Frank ess

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> Huh, I bought it off eBay... :-(

Oops. Hopefully you got it from a respected dealer. You should contact the
seller and see if they will exchange the camera.

--
Mark

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One supposes that the CF card is seated all the way in...these camears will
shooot withoit a seated card or even the card present...you'll get a
flashing "no cf card!" on the LCD.

Failing that then maybe as already suggested a firm push with a small
jewellers type screwdriver on the release button might wotk or even a gentle
pull of the cf card.

"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:TcHpe.118013$g12.33566@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> Hi. I'm new to this NG, so I hope I'm not inadvertantly
> retreading old ground or anything.
>
> I just got an EOS 350D, and I have a peculiar problem. I put
> the CF card in the side as the instructions say. When I came
> to eject the card, I can't get it out!
>
> The instructions say simply "push the eject button... the
> CF card will be ejected".
>
> But when I pushed the button down it just clicked into place
> flat against the surface of the camera; the card didn't
> budge an inch. The button won't pull out or push in, twist
> or turn or anything else.
>
> Have a look at this to see what I mean. Two rather poor
> quality images I'm afraid but you get the idea :
>
> http://www.ditl.org/hiview.jpg
> http://www.ditl.org/lowerview.jpg
>
> This is the first time I've used a digital camera of any
> kind, so I'm horribly afraid that I have done something
> really stupid.
>
> So, two questions - one, am I missing something obvious?
> And two, if I get a small pair of pliers and just pull that
> card out by brute force, is it likely to break anything?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anybody can offer...
>
> --
> Graham Kennedy
>
> Creator and Author,
> Daystrom Institute Technical Library
> http://www.ditl.org
>

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The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried pushing the
card back down?

And the trying the button again?



"Pete" <mr_peter_stevenson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1118257544.567308.184890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hiya,
>
> I looks like the card eject mechanism is broken.
>
> The camera is so new the warranty will cover you for this; don't even
> attempt to fix it yourself, take it back and get it repaired/swapped
> for a non jiggered camera.
>
> Prefereably get it swapped. This is the part where mail order becomes a
> bit of hinderance, and being able to walk into a shop comes into its
> own.
>
> Good luck.
>
> HTH,
>
> P.
>

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Steve Franklin wrote:

> The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried pushing the
> card back down?
>
> And the trying the button again?

Yeah, the card won't go in any further and the button
won't press at all, nor will it lift twist, or anything
else.

Current plan is to pull the card out with a pair of
snipe nosed pliers. I'm hoping maybe I put it in
wrong or something, or that the eject mechanism is
something I can push back into place or something.

Slim chance I know, but I talked to canon and they
say it's only under warranty to the guy who bought
it off them, not to me, even though it's well under
a year old. Unless I can get him to take it back,
a repair for the eject mechanism is apparently a
standard £140 charge.

Actualyl I'm thinking of just not repairing it
at all. A one gig card gives me over 250 pics on
the highest JPG quality, which is probably more
than enough for anything I need.

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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Steve Franklin wrote:
> The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried pushing
> the card back down?

If so, there may be a bent pin trapped under the card. On CF cards, the
pins are in the camera, so fixing it may be expensive, or you may be lucky
and be able to bend the pin back. Good luck.

David

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David J Taylor wrote:
> Steve Franklin wrote:
>
>>The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried pushing
>>the card back down?
>
>
> If so, there may be a bent pin trapped under the card. On CF cards, the
> pins are in the camera, so fixing it may be expensive, or you may be lucky
> and be able to bend the pin back. Good luck.

Thing is, the card works just fine as it is now.
I can take pics, view them and delete them, I
just can't get the card out.

It may be that it's sitting right on the top of
the pins and that's why the eject won't push it
up any further. I can't push the card down, but
maybe there's something stuck under it or something.

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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Graham Kennedy wrote:
> David J Taylor wrote:
>> Steve Franklin wrote:
>>
>>> The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried
>>> pushing the card back down?
>>
>>
>> If so, there may be a bent pin trapped under the card. On CF cards,
>> the pins are in the camera, so fixing it may be expensive, or you
>> may be lucky and be able to bend the pin back. Good luck.
>
> Thing is, the card works just fine as it is now.
> I can take pics, view them and delete them, I
> just can't get the card out.
>
> It may be that it's sitting right on the top of
> the pins and that's why the eject won't push it
> up any further. I can't push the card down, but
> maybe there's something stuck under it or something.

I'm not sure what to suggest:

- if there's a bent pin and it's not making contact, then you may have
problems when you try and use all the capacity of the card.

- using the camera USB cable is likely to be less reliable if the contacts
are more delicate.

- if it's just something stuck under the card, then gentle extraction
should be OK.

Not wishing to offend, but are you familiar with CF cards - i.e. is this
your first CF digital camera?

Cheers,
David

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David J Taylor wrote:

> Graham Kennedy wrote:
>
>>David J Taylor wrote:
>>
>>>Steve Franklin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The card seems to be sitting out quite a way...have you tried
>>>>pushing the card back down?
>>>
>>>
>>>If so, there may be a bent pin trapped under the card. On CF cards,
>>>the pins are in the camera, so fixing it may be expensive, or you
>>>may be lucky and be able to bend the pin back. Good luck.
>>
>>Thing is, the card works just fine as it is now.
>>I can take pics, view them and delete them, I
>>just can't get the card out.
>>
>>It may be that it's sitting right on the top of
>>the pins and that's why the eject won't push it
>>up any further. I can't push the card down, but
>>maybe there's something stuck under it or something.
>
>
> I'm not sure what to suggest:
>
> - if there's a bent pin and it's not making contact, then you may have
> problems when you try and use all the capacity of the card.
>
> - using the camera USB cable is likely to be less reliable if the contacts
> are more delicate.
>
> - if it's just something stuck under the card, then gentle extraction
> should be OK.
>
> Not wishing to offend, but are you familiar with CF cards - i.e. is this
> your first CF digital camera?

No offense taken. I'm a digital camera virgin in every
respect, as I said in the first post. But I'm meeting
up with my brother this weekend who is a bit of a hardware
wizz, so I'll let him play with it.

It *seems* to work just fine as it is - I can take
shots at a rapid rate pretty much indefeinitely, no
matter how ful lthe card is.

I seem to be at an impasse. I'll try getting the card
out manually once my brother has had a look, and see
how it goes from there.

Thanks to all who made suggestions, your efforts are
very much appreciated.



Oh, one other question - the 350D takes EFS lenses,
am I right in thinking that it also work with ordinary
EF lenses? And am I right in thinking that the 1.4x and
2x extenders work with EF lenses but not EFS?


--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:49:10 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote:
>
> Oh, one other question - the 350D takes EFS lenses,
> am I right in thinking that it also work with ordinary
> EF lenses? And am I right in thinking that the 1.4x and
> 2x extenders work with EF lenses but not EFS?

That's two questions. :-) The answer to the first is "yes".
I can't quickly find an answer to the second, but I'm sure someone
will be along shortly with an answer.

--
Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400 x215
Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those
questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing.
--Josh Micah Marshall

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Ben Rosengart wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:49:10 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote:
>
>>Oh, one other question - the 350D takes EFS lenses,
>>am I right in thinking that it also work with ordinary
>>EF lenses? And am I right in thinking that the 1.4x and
>>2x extenders work with EF lenses but not EFS?
>
>
> That's two questions. :-)

Yes, I'm a bad, bad man.

> The answer to the first is "yes".

Cool, thanks.

> I can't quickly find an answer to the second, but I'm sure someone
> will be along shortly with an answer.

Here's hoping...

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

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Ben Rosengart wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:49:10 GMT, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, one other question - the 350D takes EFS lenses,
>> am I right in thinking that it also work with ordinary
>> EF lenses? And am I right in thinking that the 1.4x and
>> 2x extenders work with EF lenses but not EFS?
>
> That's two questions. :-) The answer to the first is "yes".
> I can't quickly find an answer to the second, but I'm sure someone
> will be along shortly with an answer.

"An answer": Canon lists the lenses its extenders accommodate.

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