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PLEASE HELP ME CHOOSE A 670!

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November 11, 2012 2:19:14 PM

Hi, I need help choosing which 670 to get. I was gonna go with the msi pe, but I read that msi was overvolting the cards above what they should be, so I decided not to get that one. Someone told me to get the gigabyte version, but from all the benchmarks I have seen, it seems to be the slowest one from them all. I heard the asus cards are having errors and issues. I decided to go with the evga ftw, but someone said that the cooling is bad, but I have never heard complains about it. Can someone please help me choose which one I should go with?

This is the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/niDN

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November 11, 2012 2:30:48 PM

I'd go for a asus direct cu ii / gigabyte windforce 3x / sapphire vapor-x / msi twin frozr III card. Not a reference cooler design.
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November 11, 2012 3:11:06 PM

co0ldown said:
I'd go for a asus direct cu ii / gigabyte windforce 3x / sapphire vapor-x / msi twin frozr III card. Not a reference cooler design.


I heard that the asus cards are having issues, and that's why they aren't in stock alot. Is that only with the top versions? And what's the difference between the top and non top versions.
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 3:14:37 PM

No the asus cards are fine.
Anyway, an ASUS 670 DirectCU II or MSI GTX 670 Power Edition
Gigabyte are okay but not as good as the other two.
Yeah scrap the EVGA, you don't want a reference cooler on anything over a 660.
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November 11, 2012 3:19:20 PM

calumconroy said:
No the asus cards are fine.
Anyway, an ASUS 670 DirectCU II or MSI GTX 670 Power Edition
Gigabyte are okay but not as good as the other two.
Yeah scrap the EVGA, you don't want a reference cooler on anything over a 660.


Ok, so if I get the asus it will be this one http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-video-card-gtx670d...
The base clock is pretty low, but if I overclock it, can it still get close to 1000?
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 3:34:35 PM

Yup. Even at the reference clock speeds it'd still perform great. Just looked on pcpartpicker and seen this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2g...
It's well worth it - Factory overclocked to start with and the MSI Power Edition / Lightning have the best overclocking of any GPU, Personally i'd take the MSi but if MSi wasn't an option i'd get the ASUS.
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November 11, 2012 3:37:31 PM

calumconroy said:
Yup. Even at the reference clock speeds it'd still perform great. Just looked on pcpartpicker and seen this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2g...
It's well worth it - Factory overclocked to start with and the MSI Power Edition / Lightning have the best overclocking of any GPU, Personally i'd take the MSi but if MSi wasn't an option i'd get the ASUS.


I was gonna get the msi version, but then I read an article about how msi was caught red handed over volting the gpus more then they should be (cheating) So I decided to remove that from the list. Im looking at the top version of the asus direct cu ii card. If it is really worth the money and will last a good time, then ill shall get it.
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 3:40:49 PM

Yeah that's the idea. MSI PE and Lightning have overvolting to increase overclocking pointential. Basically if you want the best you can get from a 670, get the MSI.
If you want the stability get the ASUS with slightly less performance.
May I add though, you could get the MSI Factory OC'd and not touch it yourself and there'd be no problems. And it'd be better than the ASUS.
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November 11, 2012 3:46:35 PM

calumconroy said:
Yeah that's the idea. MSI PE and Lightning have overvolting to increase overclocking pointential. Basically if you want the best you can get from a 670, get the MSI.
If you want the stability get the ASUS with slightly less performance.
May I add though, you could get the MSI Factory OC'd and not touch it yourself and there'd be no problems. And it'd be better than the ASUS.


I was looking at benchmarks from the asus rog youtube channel for the top cards. And they are actually 5-7 fps slower then most other cards which I was surprised about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysurbM8gJ0o
I could always get the msi pe version, and if I have a problem I could always return it and get my money back and get another one right?
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:04:49 PM

Yeah sure don't see why not - It seems like your best bet!
Soon i'm going to get an MSI GTX 660 Ti PE so thats going to be great xD
But like I say, If you don't want to dabble in overclocking, buy the MSI as its already factory overclocked to a stable limit then if you want to push a littttle bit more you can do :p 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:15:24 PM

ASUS GTX 670 TOP = Silent.
MSI GTX 670 PE = Better Overclocking.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... (670 PE OC)

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... (ASUS 670 TOP OC)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_6... (ASUS 670 TOP Overclocking)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_67... (MSI 670 PE Overclocking)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_6... (ASUS 670 TOP Temperature)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_67... (MSI 670 PE Temperature)

Pick which you care more about. Nothing is Perfect between those 2 card. If you care more about silent, I would choose ASUS, but if you care more about Overclocking, I would go for 670 PE. Both are Excellent card. Also these benchmarks are out dated and all these cards preform better now especially amd cards.I both two MSI 670 PE's and don't regret it however i really wanted Asus Top but couldn't find it in stock anywhere after three months of waiting i gave up and settle for MSI GTX 670.There two versions of the Asus card but there not the same the Top uses high specially binned chip while the non top looks exact same does not i find it rather shady they made them look the same.
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November 11, 2012 4:23:10 PM

bigcyco1 said:
ASUS GTX 670 TOP = Silent.
MSI GTX 670 PE = Better Overclocking.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... (670 PE OC)

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... (ASUS 670 TOP OC)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_6... (ASUS 670 TOP Overclocking)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_67... (MSI 670 PE Overclocking)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_6... (ASUS 670 TOP Temperature)

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_67... (MSI 670 PE Temperature)

Pick which you care more about. Nothing is Perfect between those 2 card. If you care more about silent, I would choose ASUS, but if you care more about Overclocking, I would go for 670 PE. Both are Excellent card. Also these benchmarks are out dated and all these cards preform better now especially amd cards.I both two MSI 670 PE's and don't regret it however i really wanted Asus Top but couldn't find it in stock anywhere after three months of waiting i gave up and settle for MSI GTX 670.


Im more for performance. Silence isn't a big issue since im playing with headphones.
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:26:52 PM

Props bigcyco1, I agree - higher performance go for the MSI (and cooler to apparently), want it quieter get the ASUS. Personally I'd have the MSI, IMO having less noise isn't a compromise for performance and Temps.
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:27:28 PM

sitbar said:
Im more for performance. Silence isn't a big issue since im playing with headphones.


MSI it is then :D 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:28:37 PM

sitbar said:
Im more for performance. Silence isn't a big issue since im playing with headphones.
Well i don't think you can go wrong either way TechPoweUp gives the 670 TOP an 10.0 rating, the only 10.0 rating ever
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...



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Overall the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II is the best card I ever tested.I simply can't find anything wrong with it.
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November 11, 2012 4:39:42 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Well i don't think you can go wrong either way TechPoweUp gives the 670 TOP an 10.0 rating, the only 10.0 rating ever
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...



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Overall the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II is the best card I ever tested.I simply can't find anything wrong with it.


The top version is more then a 100+ then then msi version

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2g...

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-video-card-gtx670d...

Is the performance a whole lot more that the 100s more is worth it? Because I just want to be able to record bf3 maxed out a 60 fps, which I have seen people do with both the msi, and the asus.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:44:06 PM

sitbar said:
The top version is more then a 100+ then then msi version

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/msi-video-card-n670pe2g...

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-video-card-gtx670d...

Is the performance a whole lot more that the 100s more is worth it? Because I just want to be able to record bf3 maxed out a 60 fps, which I have seen people do with both the msi, and the asus.
:ouch:  No..no.. it's not worth $100 more they must be :pt1cable: 
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November 11, 2012 4:55:32 PM

bigcyco1 said:
:ouch:  No..no.. it's not worth $100 more they must be :pt1cable: 


XD Actually, the asus might not be 100 dollars more, but it is significantly more expensive.
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a b U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:56:50 PM

ASUS or MSI, Either way you'll be happy.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 11, 2012 4:59:05 PM

calumconroy said:
ASUS or MSI, Either way you'll be happy.
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November 11, 2012 5:00:59 PM

calumconroy said:
ASUS or MSI, Either way you'll be happy.


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November 11, 2012 5:06:11 PM

Best answer selected by sitbar.
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