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December 28, 2012 11:35:37 AM

Trying that is. TRYING to build or find the perfect Desktop baby for me :3. I honestly didn't even know the difference between a CPU and GPU till I asked the Google Gods. I guess if I had to choose one it would be a GPU. but that gives you a good idea on my ignorance. I like to -play- on computers :3; building is a different ball park.

Anyway, here it goes:

Approximate Purchase Date: Anytime! I'm in no rush. I just want to make sure it's right the first time. I'll buy when I'm confident in the product I'm getting.

Budget Range: $3,200 After Rebates.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: In game smooth recording, Gaming on highest settings, Movie making, duel boxing, 3D rendering,

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I do like Newegg but if I can get a better deal elsewhere I'll take advantage.

Country: We need to know where these parts are being assembled: The US of A.

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I don't think I have the right to be picky about parts when I know almost nothing about them.

Overclocking: Yes / No / Maybe: I hear of this 'overclocking' a lot, but I've never done it myself. Might be time to break out 'Overclocking for Dummies'.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes / No / Maybe I don't care! Can you repeat the question!? But seriously...I have no idea 8D.

Monitor Resolution: I will use two: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: This is the build HP is trying to sell me. However...I got the feeling they were just heaping on the price rather than building me what I want. I could be wrong though. This came to $3070.00:

Operating system: Windows 8 64
Processor: 3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K quad-core processor [3.5GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
Memory: 32GB DDR3-1600 DIMM (4x8GB) RAM
Hard drive: 4TB 7200RPM SATA RAID 5 (3 x 2TB HDD)
Secondary Hard Drive: No secondary hard drive
Graphics card: 3GB AMD Radeon HD 7950 [Dual Bracket; DVI, HDMI, 2x mini-DP]
HeatSink: Liquid Cooling Solution
Primary optical drive : Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
Networking: Premium Wireless-N LAN card and Bluetooth(R )(2x2)
Productivity ports: 15-in-1 memory card reader, 4 x USB 2.0 (front), 2 x USB 3.0 (top)
Office software: Microsoft Office Trial
Security software: Free upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2013 - 36 month from 24 month
TV & entertainment experience: No TV Tuner
Sound Card: Beats Audio (tm) -- integrated studio quality sound
Keyboard and Mouse (I already have Razer stuff though): HP USB volume control keyboard and mouse with Win 8 keyboard

Your additional options (This was just other stuff they insisted were worth getting :3. and I'm a sucker):
Webcams: HP HD-5210 Webcam
HP Care Pack Services: HP 4 year 3 day Onsite Response for 2 year warranty Envy Desktop Hardware Support
HP Printers and All-in-ones: HP Photosmart 7520 e-All-in-One


Well, thanks for putting up with me! and giving me some Know How. I'm sure with time I'll have this whole building/buying thing down pat.

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December 28, 2012 11:47:15 AM

The question is, what do you mean by Movie Making and 3D Rendering? Are you professional at this work? Have you been gaming before?

Do you know how to assemble the parts together?
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December 28, 2012 11:54:32 AM

You can halve the budget easily - even $1k would suffice. Unless you want to overspend.
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December 28, 2012 12:07:22 PM

Oh no no. Not a professional at all.

I do 3D rendering as a Hobbie. I like to build Avatars and the like for fun! Someday maybe I'll take classes so I can make Real Time games. For now I just mess around with it. Generally at the end its so glitchy what I play with can't be used.

As far as Movie Making goes. I record, upload and make videos of Raids (from games) or to upload videos of my children and compile them into music videos. I generally use Photoshop and Premier Elements but am considering moving on to something better, but later. I can't do as much as I'd like with these programs.



That's what I'm worried about. I have the money to spend but I don't see the value in spending extra money if it doesn't improve what I'm doing on my computer. I'm not really sure what I'm looking for though. So far, I've gotten that Power Supply and Graphics card are very important and should be a huge Key in getting the right computer. :3 One step at a time I suppose.
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December 28, 2012 12:14:57 PM

Well, getting a super computer with a lack of knowledge and use is like getting a Porche 911 in the 3rd world suburbs.

That's it, you can build a 1K setup and it will suffice your needs.
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December 28, 2012 12:19:54 PM

Yes, I think HP is over charging by about $1000. Here is what I would consider a comparable build using mostly the same components:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($347.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.66 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($127.28 @ CompUSA)
Other: TP-LINK TL-WN781ND Wireless N150 PCI Express Adapter ($20.99)
Other: HP - Photosmart 7520 Wireless e-All-In-One Printer ($149.99)
Total: $2046.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 09:17 EST-0500)

As others have noted, you don't need to spend even this much on a computer system for your usages. A lower end processor, less RAM, and fewer hard drives would suffice for your needs.

-Wolf sends
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December 28, 2012 12:24:52 PM

Perhaps something like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.94 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.89 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Full (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $926.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 09:24 EST-0500)
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December 28, 2012 12:27:43 PM

3200 dollars and only getting a single 7950?!?! What a shame.
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December 28, 2012 12:37:18 PM

cbrunnem said:
3200 dollars and only getting a single 7950?!?! What a shame.


Understand that HP wasn't building a gaming system, so why would they go with two HD 7950s? When was the last time you saw a 4TB RAID5 array on a gaming system?
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December 28, 2012 1:34:25 PM

also throw a CM Hyper 212+ in that cart, incase u ever want to OC down the road.
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December 28, 2012 1:35:37 PM

and get a K-version CPU just cause it's not that much more and if you ever want to OC, you can
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December 28, 2012 2:11:05 PM

Think Finneous nailed it especially if you are not going to overclock and prefer a system that just works as-is.

As always, get a good USB3 external hard drive for backups of the family videos.
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December 28, 2012 2:15:12 PM

ittimjones said:
and get a K-version CPU just cause it's not that much more and if you ever want to OC, you can

Actually it's $40 more and $30 for the cooler. $70 dollars "in case you ever want to OC maybe" is a lot of money - I'd say not worth it.
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December 28, 2012 2:44:47 PM

I'm going to get beat up for saying this, but if you have no interested in building it yourself (it's not that hard - good videos on youtube) I had really good luck with two different machines from Cyberpower and you can also try iBuyPower. You'll pay an extra $200-ish for the same build you would do yourself but get tech support for a year. Just throwing that out there.
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December 28, 2012 3:14:59 PM

I would instead go for a local business and have them build it. Better to have tech support in your town than across the country.
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December 28, 2012 3:20:53 PM

Well, there's that if the price is good. My experience locally is the prices in store are outrageous. Never checked if they'd put something together if I bought the parts - I need to do that :) 
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December 28, 2012 5:46:07 PM

Wolfshadw said:
Understand that HP wasn't building a gaming system, so why would they go with two HD 7950s? When was the last time you saw a 4TB RAID5 array on a gaming system?


Her most important usage is in game smooth performance so it is a gaming machine. So she's prolly going to want ultra settings or at least high and if she's willing to spend 3200 dollars why not get at least a 7970 or two?
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December 28, 2012 5:53:29 PM

DungeonMasterKare said:

Country: We need to know where these parts are being assembled: The US of A. .


what does that mean? good luck finding computer parts made in the usa.

you could build yourself a computer thats better then the HP one for $1000. watch the youtube video in the techreport article. it goes step by step. after watching that im pretty sure you could put the computer together.
http://techreport.com/review/23624/how-to-build-a-pc-th...

here a $3000 computer with 690's in sli. i'm sure it's complete overkill for you but blows the HP out of the water.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.68 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($984.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($984.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3002.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 14:59 EST-0500)
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December 28, 2012 6:04:09 PM

Jonjon...jon that's part of the questions in the sticky for this site. It's asking where you live, not where you want to buy parts from.
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December 28, 2012 6:10:22 PM

cbrunnem said:
Her most important usage is in game smooth performance so it is a gaming machine. So she's prolly going to want ultra settings or at least high and if she's willing to spend 3200 dollars why not get at least a 7970 or two?


If you re-read, MY post said nothing of the OPs interests. I said that HP didn't build a gaming system. They built an over-priced workstation and that is why you don't see multiple graphic cards.

-Wolf sends
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December 28, 2012 6:12:42 PM

"Country - we need to know where these parts are being assembled"

yea i missed that. they way it was formatted made it looked like they wanted parts made in the usa. not all the components would be shipped the the usa.
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December 28, 2012 6:17:00 PM

I don't think they really want to overspend. I'd rather put one together for them that does not have just one use that it's amazing at. Rather, one that is has all around capability.

I'd probably give it a blu ray writer along with an extra dvd drive. one great video card because she said it's a hobby. they can save the money for future part replacements and upgrades, in case usb 4.0 comes out in the next few years or they want to upgrade to haswell. An extreme overclock is a recipe for a future-proof processor, so maybe add good water cooling.

I could come up with a build that works well for the hobby, is future proof, and keeps it under $2000, and I'm still a noob.
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December 28, 2012 6:25:28 PM

$1300 and its better then the HP.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.68 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($366.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($65.48 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1295.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 15:22 EST-0500)
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December 28, 2012 6:28:23 PM

Wolfshadw said:
If you re-read, MY post said nothing of the OPs interests. I said that HP didn't build a gaming system. They built an over-priced workstation and that is why you don't see multiple graphic cards.

-Wolf sends

My original statement didn't just include hp either. Everyone was recommending a single 7950. Regardless this is just a minor miscommunication.
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December 28, 2012 6:28:39 PM

Cooler Master 690 II - Black w/ Windowed side panel
MSI Z77A-GD65
Intel i7 3770K
Corsair H80i or Cooler Master V10
Corsair Vengeance 2133 Mhz (2x 8Gb)
MSI GTX 670 Power Edition (x2) SLI
Corsair HX1050
Intel 330 series 120Gb (x2) Raid 0
Western Digital Black 2Tb (x4) Two raid 0's
Any DVD drive (LG or Asus)
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December 28, 2012 7:40:23 PM

$2000 all around future proof pc designed to match your continually upgrading computer life: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/uGnV



You can add any other parts you like, such as hdd, ssd, card reader, etc. and still remain within your $3000 budget.

P.S. the case can change if you prefer a different look or don't like it to glow
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