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$2000ish. Want superb 2560x1600 gaming.

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December 28, 2012 6:44:04 PM

Hi.

I'm on partpicker now trying to narrow down the components for this build. I'll be running 2560x1600 on a single monitor. So far, I've got:

CPU: i5-3570K
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

I'd prefer to only run one card. I'm thinking an nvidia 690. My current build with 6950's in xfire is great, but sometimes I get micro-stuttering. I find myself playing games with xfire off more than it's on. I'll use the existing system for everything else while the new build handles my games. AMD is wonderful for multi-monitor. But multi-monitor is bad for maxing my FPS in 2560x1600. So I'm basically going to build a completely new system just because I hate opening up catalyst and switching my settings around. Haha! All the while children starve in Africa. I'm going to hell. :) 

For the mobo, I'm interested in Asus or ASRock... whichever gives me the best features and performance. I don't really care about price differences between the two.

16gb of G.Skill RAM if possible.

Two SSD's with at least 256gb each.

Corsair PSU... maybe AX750 if that satisfies power req for the vid card.

As for a case... I like Cooler Master, but I'm very much open on this. I'd like front panel 3.0 USB, a spacious interior (who knows, I might go crazy in a month and get a second 690), integrated fan controls (if possible)... and some cup holders, power windows, etc... pretty much an awesome case. Price isn't a big deal as long as the case is awesome.

Aside from that, I pretty much know what I want. I just need some help in choosing specific products to ensure compatibility and whatnot. I haven't yet bought the wrong socket mobo or anything like that (knock on wood). This community has always served me well. People here seem to keep up with the newest hardware much better than I can. So I would appreciate any help you guys can offer me.

This new system will be my gaming build. As I said, I'd like superb 2560x1600 performance... basically, ultra settings, max AA (and all that jazz) in the latest AAA titles like Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, Skyrim, etc.

Let's stick with Newegg for now. I can hunt for bargains after I know which specific products I'm looking for.

I'm hoping to come in around $2000. But I don't mind going a bit over considering that 690's price. Yikes!

I'm a toolbag with too much disposable income. I want this build to be equally as toolbaggish.

If you need any more information, feel free to ask.

Thanks in advance!

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December 28, 2012 7:26:22 PM

Subtract the cost of the monitor. I wasn't figuring that into the build cost. But otherwise, does this look good? I would appreciate any other bit of advice anyone has. I still need a case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 690 4GB Video Card ($1008.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Dell U3011 60Hz 30.0" Monitor ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3387.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 16:24 EST-0500)
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December 28, 2012 7:42:19 PM

You don't need 16GB ram for gaming, so save some bucks and also the os...
Better ram, better mobo, better psu, less pricey, it's better to have two 680 gtx than a 690 gtx and it's less expensive :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 612 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($40.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($56.43 @ Amazon)
Total: $1964.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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December 28, 2012 7:44:06 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.93 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($154.43 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1990.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 16:50 EST-0500)

For 680s in SLI is much better than a 690 and cheaper. Or just get 1 690 for now another down the road in about 2 years
You need a great case for the build your looking for 650D has you covered.
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December 28, 2012 7:50:41 PM

Couple things.

First, why 16 GB of RAM? With photoshop, battlefield 3, and 20 tabs in chrome all open at once, with no page file, I still don't have problems with 8GB of ram - I've never even seen it hit 7GB used.

Please tell me you aren't going to RAID those SSDs? SSDs get faster as they get larger, and RAID causes so many problems, that you're miles better off getting a single, larger drive.

The 690 is a decent card, but keep in mind, it's SLI-on-a-chip... so it's no better than two graphics cards. I'd get a pair of 670s, personally; less heat, less noise, more impressive looks...

The other option, which is probably a good idea, is to wait on the GPU for now - get a 650 or something to hold you over for a handful of months. Why? Because the 700 / 8k series is going to be released very soon, meaning blowing the budget on a high end card right now just doesn't make much sense.


That monitor has a 7ms G2G time. If you're going to be playing competitive games at all, what that means is that you're going to get input lag - a lot of it. Usually you only want a 5ms flip time, which equals a 2ms G2G time... that monitor takes more than three times as long to change images. I'd just think long and hard about it.


Finally, the sidewinder is a waste. Any keyboard that advertises itself as a "gaming" keyboard is, really - they're, mechanically, NO better than a $5 crap-o keyboard. You're paying for the lights and the flashiness. Do a little research and get a mechanical keyboard. You'll thank yourself. (And me. ;) 
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December 28, 2012 8:14:18 PM

I appreciate all the comments! I'll try to reply as best I can.

Two 680's instead of a single 690? I'm not necessarily committed to the 690. How is nvidia's SLI compared to xfire? With xfire, I deal with all sorts of micro-stuttering and other issues whenever a new game comes out. I was hoping to avoid such things.

As for waiting, there's always a hot new thing coming out in a few months.

I am already RAIDing two of those m4's. A single, larger drive is better/faster? I'm looking for speed. I don't need any storage drives. My existing system will contain the storage drives.

The keyboard and mouse is just personal preference. I need something back-lit. And I'd prefer to avoid the heavy clanging of a $5 equivalent. I'm familiar with the mouse. Switching mice always messes me up for a few months.

The RAM isn't a big ticket item. I have 4GB now and sometimes have issues with capacity. I don't mind getting an unnecessary amount to nip that in the butt altogether.

As for the monitor, I'm not aware of any 2560x1600 monitors with less than 7ms response time. I'm not really into competitive gaming. Just for fun. :) 

I'll post an updated spec sheet soon.

I very much like all the suggestions! Keep 'em coming. You guys are introducing me to some products I wasn't familiar with.

Thank you!
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December 28, 2012 8:32:02 PM

Updated list. I removed the monitor, optical drive and keyboard/mouse so we can focus on the main components. I didn't realize it gave me a newegg combo that made Win7 $50 more expensive. What a combo!

Nice find on that monitor! I've never heard of the brand. But I could get two for the price of one of those Dells. I love it!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1942.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 17:29 EST-0500)
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December 28, 2012 8:41:38 PM

you only need 8GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those memories are low voltage, they overclock very well.

Or if you want really 16GB get 2x8GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those are also low voltage, meaning they can oc well and they're low profile.

Not bad, but you can get the seasonic x-850w for less price : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There's also a good combo with i5-3570k + this cooler : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also the extreme 6 is at the same price, get the extreme 6 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 28, 2012 9:52:59 PM

you can get an ACHIEVA Shimian QH270-Lite for under $300. at that price it would make it impossible for me to ever buy an crappy TN monitor. they are supposedly the same panels used in the $1000 apple home cinema monitor.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACHIEVA-Shimian-QH270-Lite-27-P...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Qnix-QX2700-LED-27-inch-QHD...

and if you are worried about getting them from korea and a warrenty. microcenter has started to sell them for $400.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS...
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December 29, 2012 12:15:22 AM

Sava said:
Updated list. I removed the monitor, optical drive and keyboard/mouse so we can focus on the main components. I didn't realize it gave me a newegg combo that made Win7 $50 more expensive. What a combo!

Nice find on that monitor! I've never heard of the brand. But I could get two for the price of one of those Dells. I love it!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1942.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 17:29 EST-0500)



haha basically the build i advised! What you dont like the case? Do you got an idea of what type of case your looking for?
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December 29, 2012 12:57:12 AM

Sava said:
Updated list. I removed the monitor, optical drive and keyboard/mouse so we can focus on the main components. I didn't realize it gave me a newegg combo that made Win7 $50 more expensive. What a combo!

Nice find on that monitor! I've never heard of the brand. But I could get two for the price of one of those Dells. I love it!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1942.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-28 17:29 EST-0500)

why get 4x4GB memory? get 2x8GB. its less work on the memory controller and you leave yourself the opportunity to upgrade in the future. the snipers are also cheaper.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d16g...
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December 29, 2012 8:48:43 PM

Thank you everyone for all your help. I appreciate all the suggestions, even if I didn't go with the specific part you mentioned. One can go crazy with the near limitless possibilities. No build is going to make everyone happy.

I pulled the trigger on parts. Here is the system. I went with a mini-ITX build. My parameters changed somewhat. I went with an Asus 27 inch monitor with 2ms for gaming. The build meets my needs. Nitpick away at the parts to your hearts content. :) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B 45.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE278H 27.0" Monitor ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1741.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-29 17:44 EST-0500)
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January 6, 2013 2:12:06 AM

You have probably already finished your build. But case wise, I am an enormous fan of NZXT. Their Crafted series are in my opinion, the best cases out there. They have amazing cable management, are very quiet, and look stellar. Both the NZXT Phantom 410 Mid-tower and the NZXT Phantom Full-Tower cases are probably the best price to performance ratio of any case on the market. Front USB 3.0 fan control system. Inside the case, it has toolist design hard drive bays and optical drive bays. They are 7 hard-drive bays in the full tower case, and 6 in the mid tower. This leaves lots of room for expansion, and the possibility of mounting more than 7 hard drives on the full tower case, because two of the bays, are given their own column, so to speak, and you are therefore able to add more bays on top the the two existing ones. The toolist design results in extremely fast installation of hard drives, and optical drives. They just snap in. The hard drive bay toolist design hooks, come with rubber pads, resulting in minimized vibration of the hard drives. Sadly, the slide outs aren't equipped with toolist designed SSD capabilities. However, the slide outs are SSD compatible, so you don't have to leave with the annoying mounting rig that comes with SSD's. Now, unto your processor. This processor is amazing. I am currently using this processor on my computer. However, you are overpaying for it. Most people do not know this, but Microcenter offers unbeatable prices on CPU's and Motherboards. Currently the i5 3570k processor costs 169.99 on Microcenter, and the i7 3770k costs 229.99. So for the extra $10 at Microcenter, i would highly recommend getting the 3770k. Now your motherboard was an interesting choice. Being a Mini ITX board means that there is very, very little room for expansion and/or upgrading your computer in the future. Whenever I build, I only use mobo's from ASRock. They are the best manufacturer of LGA 1155 motherboards period. Their best price to performance motherboard is their z77 Extreme 4. I am also using this board, and it allows great OC capabilities, and the UEFI is very nicely done to make the BIOS much easier to understand than what it used to be. So now, at Microcenter, the ASRock z77 extreme 4 board gets comboed with the i7 3770K for 134.99. However, with your i5 3570K, the mobo is comboed for $94.99. That is amazing savings! So if you have not purchased your build yet, or maybe you have, I would strongly recommend buying CPU and Mobo from Microcenter. Now your CPU cooler is another issue to discuss. The Intel stock heat-sinks are actually very, VERY, good. Unless you will be overclocking there is no point in buying a 'discreet' heat-sink. Also, the Intel stock heat-sinks are very quiet, compared to most discreet heat-sinks. Now, if you are OC'ing, then i would highly recommend water cooling. It is much quieter than air cooling, and allows for much higher OC at a lower temp. Antec Kuhler 620 and 920, and the Corsair H80, H80i, H100, and H100i are all amazing liquid coolers. However, Cooler Master is making a new liquid cooler, called the EISBERG, which is also supposed to be amazing, and might be worth waiting for. Your storage, however, isnt very wise. Having such a large capacity SSD is virtually pointless. SSD's are meant to read data. So storing anything apart from the OS and other small programs is not worth it. A 128GB Vertex 4 from OCZ Technologies or their newest Vector line, would be a much wiser choice, along as much cheaper. Under $150 for both at Microcenter, and combo it with a 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD for $100 at Microcenter. For your GPU, the 660 Ti really isnt a good card. It would be much smarter to get a 7870 from AMD. However, i would strongly recommend at GTX 670 FTW, not the LE, because it runs on the 680 PCB, so it runs much cooler and faster than a normal 670. Also, it will run any game on the market at max resolution, and settings, and a very high FPS compared to the 660 Ti. SLI and CrossFire is basically pointless. Its much better, quieter, and cooler to just have one card, and draws much less power aswell. For RAM, just get 16GB, crucial Ballistix sport 1600 MHZ RAM is $65 at Microcenter, 2x8 GB modules. They also OC very well. Your PSU is very expensive for its quality. I would recommend the OCZ Fatal1ty 750 Watt Modular PSU from Microcenter. Very high quality. Its $104, with a $20 rebate. So only $5 more than your current PSU. It also glows RED, which is a nice treat! SO, basically thats my opinion on what you should change with your build. Im not saying im right, but just a suggestion. Enjoy building, i know i always do, built over 50 PC's in the last 2 weeks. Goodluck!
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