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Randomly shuts down, no BSOD.

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December 28, 2012 10:56:49 PM

Hello...
I recently installed an ADATA S510 SSD, 120 GB. This was an upgrade from an old 5400 RPM salvaged Samsung laptop hard drive with 230 gb of space on it. However, I didn't have much on my old copy of windows 7 professional 64 bit so i just did a re install.
However.... my system is now randomly crashing. I cannot pinpoint exactly what is crashing it, and it is very random timing-wise.
Sometimes it will just crash and reboot, other times it will freeze and I have to reset it manually. I've taken a bunch of parts out to test them and installed the OS only on the ssd in the machine, and only on the HDD in the machine. I get the same problem.

I updated my BIOS, checked for new versions of the hardware for my SSD(I'm updated). However.... something that seems to set it off more often than not is a windows update. There are a few updates that fail to download and it is more prone to crashes at that point it seems. Also anything graphically intensive sets it off, and my video card gets very warm too.

My specs are:


AMD FX(tm)-4100 Quad-Core Processor 3600 Socket 942
Memory: Geil EVO 4x 4gb 16384mb Modules
4 instances:

Bank Label : BANK0
Capacity : 4294967296
Caption : Physical Memory
Creation Class Name : Win32_PhysicalMemory
Data Width : 64
Description : Physical Memory
Device Locator : DIMM0
Form Factor : 8
Hot Swappable :
Install Date :
Interleave Data Depth :
Interleave Position :
Manufacturer : Manufacturer0
Memory Type : 0
Model :
Name : Physical Memory
Other Identifying Info :
Part Number : Array1_PartNumber0
Position In Row :
Powered On :
Removable :
Replaceable :
Serial Number : SerNum0
SKU :
Speed : 1600
Status :
Tag : Physical Memory 0
Total Width : 64
Type Detail : 128
Version :


Bank Label : BANK1
Capacity : 4294967296
Caption : Physical Memory
Creation Class Name : Win32_PhysicalMemory
Data Width : 64
Description : Physical Memory
Device Locator : DIMM1
Form Factor : 8
Hot Swappable :
Install Date :
Interleave Data Depth :
Interleave Position :
Manufacturer : Manufacturer1
Memory Type : 0
Model :
Name : Physical Memory
Other Identifying Info :
Part Number : Array1_PartNumber1
Position In Row :
Powered On :
Removable :
Replaceable :
Serial Number : SerNum1
SKU :
Speed : 1600
Status :
Tag : Physical Memory 1
Total Width : 64
Type Detail : 128
Version :


Bank Label : BANK2
Capacity : 4294967296
Caption : Physical Memory
Creation Class Name : Win32_PhysicalMemory
Data Width : 64
Description : Physical Memory
Device Locator : DIMM2
Form Factor : 8
Hot Swappable :
Install Date :
Interleave Data Depth :
Interleave Position :
Manufacturer : Manufacturer2
Memory Type : 0
Model :
Name : Physical Memory
Other Identifying Info :
Part Number : Array1_PartNumber2
Position In Row :
Powered On :
Removable :
Replaceable :
Serial Number : SerNum2
SKU :
Speed : 1600
Status :
Tag : Physical Memory 2
Total Width : 64
Type Detail : 128
Version :


Bank Label : BANK3
Capacity : 4294967296
Caption : Physical Memory
Creation Class Name : Win32_PhysicalMemory
Data Width : 64
Description : Physical Memory
Device Locator : DIMM3
Form Factor : 8
Hot Swappable :
Install Date :
Interleave Data Depth :
Interleave Position :
Manufacturer : Manufacturer3
Memory Type : 0
Model :
Name : Physical Memory
Other Identifying Info :
Part Number : Array1_PartNumber3
Position In Row :
Powered On :
Removable :
Replaceable :
Serial Number : SerNum3
SKU :
Speed : 1600
Status :
Tag : Physical Memory 3
Total Width : 64
Type Detail : 128
Version :

(That is a copy paste)
ADATA SSD S510 120GB ATA Device 112gb IDE
SAMSUNG HM250HI ATA Device 233gb IDE
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS70 ATA Device Firmware:EX00 IDE
SyncMaster (20" widescreen) (Standard monitor types) HVJP500846
Realtek High Definition Audio
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller 10BF48BC0774 100 Mb/s
Desktop: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 Rev 1.xx
7 0xPCI 0xPCIE 0xAGP 3xOther
American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Date: 10/20/10 09:47:36 Ver: 08.00.10 ALASKA - 1072009 10/25/2012
ATI Radeon HD 5670 1024mb 1680 x 1050 x 4294967296 colors


I suspect the video card...
Adapter Compatibility : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Adapter DAC Type : Internal DAC(400MHz)
Adapter RAM : 1073741824
Availability : 3
Caption : ATI Radeon HD 5670
Color Table Entries :
Config Manager Error Code : 0
Config Manager User Config : False
Creation Class Name : Win32_VideoController
Current Bits Per Pixel : 32
Current Horizontal Resolution : 1680
Current Number Of Colors : 4294967296
Current Number Of Columns : 0
Current Number Of Rows : 0
Current Refresh Rate : 60
Current Scan Mode : 4
Current Vertical Resolution : 1050
Description : ATI Radeon HD 5670
Device ID : VideoController1
Device Specific Pens :
Dither Type : 0
Driver Date : 20120927000000.000000-000
Driver Version : 9.2.0.0
Error Cleared :
Error Description :
ICM Intent :
ICM Method :
Inf Filename : oem3.inf
Inf Section : ati2mtag_Evergreen
Install Date :
Installed Display Drivers : aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Last Error Code :
Max Memory Supported :
Max Number Controlled :
Max Refresh Rate : 75
Min Refresh Rate : 56
Monochrome : False
Name : ATI Radeon HD 5670
Number Of Color Planes :
Number Of Video Pages :
PNP Device ID : PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8&SUBSYS_22941787&REV_00\4&28CDDF4&0&00A8
Power Management Supported :
Protocol Supported :
Reserved System Palette Entries:
Specification Version :
Status : OK
Status Info :
System Creation Class Name : Win32_ComputerSystem
System Name : ****
System Palette Entries :
Time Of Last Reset :
Video Architecture : 5
Video Memory Type : 2
Video Mode :
Video Mode Description : 1680 x 1050 x 4294967296 colors
Video Processor : AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68D8)


Sorry for all the info. Just wanted you to know what was going on here.
I suspect:
Faulty settings for my SSD
Video Card Death.



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December 31, 2012 4:31:56 PM

Any solutions?
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January 1, 2013 12:17:33 AM

PanicMaster85 said:
ok download who crashed after it crashes again
http://download.cnet.com/WhoCrashed/3000-2094_4-7520582...

oh and it also may be your psu what is the wattage?


There are NO crash reports. It doesn't happen, it crashes and restarts.
PSU wattage is 750 watts. I think I'm fine. I defraged and chkdsked, and it is a bit more stable now...
I ordered a Georce 650Ti and I'm suspiscous that it is my old Raedon crashing it.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2013 12:27:01 AM

yeah that sounds likely
January 8, 2013 1:46:40 PM

I got a new graphics card, EVGA Geforce GTX 680, and it works fine now. No crashing or anything(and an amazing card).
a b B Homebuilt system
January 8, 2013 9:45:35 PM

yeah i have a 670 and i love it(besides the 8120's bottleneck) and yeah glad i could help god im glad there was a solution in sight this problem with your computer shutting down is a lot more common then you think(or at least its getting more and more common on the forum).

Best of luck you! :na: 
January 9, 2013 1:09:03 PM

Huh... its crashing again. I'm getting a new PSU. This one has gotten more negative reviews as being more prone to crasing and not doing the job. THe new GPU causes it to crash less, so I'm thinking I had two issues.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 9, 2013 5:52:05 PM

possibly the motherboard or have we already ruled that out?(sorry im in about 6 threads at once right now)

though yeah have your run any of this if not then run/check all of it

1) are your drivers updated?

2) Try updating your bios
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] pdate-bios

3) How old is this build?

4) Could it be over heating?

5) try running a GPU and CPU stress tester(use seperately) and monitor temps with gpu-z(for graphics card temp) and core temp(for cpu)
GPU

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

CPU
http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/

GPU-Z
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Coretemp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

5) Could your ram be having issues? run memtest
http://www.memtest.org/

6) Check your hard driver/SSD
-Start menu
-Computer
-Right click main disk(for me it is C
-Properties
-Tools
-Error checker

7) Run burnintest
http://www.passmark.com/download/bit_download.htm

8) After it crashes run who crashed
http://www.passmark.com/download/bit_download.htm

hope this helps :D 

January 9, 2013 6:53:27 PM

I've done all this.... and I get nothing. I don't even get error reports or "windows has recovered from an unexpected shutdown". No tests find anything.... and the PSU i'm using is starting to get negative reviews as being the culprit of crashes. I can say that is really the only thing left that could be wrong because there is NO data link between a PSU and any part of the computer. No data is transferred... so no info on issues with it can be aquired. The build is not very old, and it is certainly not overheating. I have an after market CPU fan and cpu heatsink that barely even fits in my case, 1 front fan, 1 back fan, a GPU fan, and the PSU fan. I have a fan control panel that has several thermal couples on it and I placed that in my case as well. Things are very cool.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 9, 2013 11:08:12 PM

ok yeah if you are getting now error messages then it has to be the psu... do you have any other psu you can use?
January 10, 2013 2:45:13 PM

Nope! I'm going for a very nice looking 950 watt modular, 4 12 volt rails.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 10, 2013 9:50:35 PM

lol awesome :D  well keep me posted
!