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As some of you know, I was out in San Diego two weekends ago shooting my
sister's wedding (formals only - no reception). Everything was shot
outdoors on an overcast day with flat lighting. I used a silver reflector
for add a little sparkle. What I failed to notice was that there were some
significant shadows under my sister's eyes in a few of the shots. So, I
need to take care of them in PS.
Here's my question. What plugins do you all like to use for dealing with
puffy eyes and shadows around the eyes?
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Walt Hanks wrote:
>
> As some of you know, I was out in San Diego two weekends ago shooting my
> sister's wedding (formals only - no reception). Everything was shot
> outdoors on an overcast day with flat lighting. I used a silver reflector
> for add a little sparkle. What I failed to notice was that there were some
> significant shadows under my sister's eyes in a few of the shots. So, I
> need to take care of them in PS.
>
> Here's my question. What plugins do you all like to use for dealing with
> puffy eyes and shadows around the eyes?
>
> To see the images, go to:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/walthanks/mosleybreiding >
> But remember, I hadn't shot a wedding in 25 years and these are unretouched
> proofs.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Walt
Hi Walt,
I imported one of your shots into Photoshop, and, using the dodge tool
set for a very small diameter, about the width of the shadow under the
eyes, and dodge exposure at about 15%, was able to remove the visible
shadows in a few minutes. No plugins necessary.
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Walt Hanks <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote:
> As some of you know, I was out in San Diego two weekends ago shooting my
> sister's wedding (formals only - no reception). Everything was shot
> outdoors on an overcast day with flat lighting. I used a silver reflector
> for add a little sparkle. What I failed to notice was that there were some
> significant shadows under my sister's eyes in a few of the shots. So, I
> need to take care of them in PS.
>
> Here's my question. What plugins do you all like to use for dealing with
> puffy eyes and shadows around the eyes?
No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
dodge.
Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably a
good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer mask,
select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now full of
black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again, and you
can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where you want
it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels and opacity
to get exactly what you want.
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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> No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
> the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
> dodge.
>
> Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
> until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably a
> good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer mask,
> select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now full of
> black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again, and you
> can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where you want
> it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels and opacity
> to get exactly what you want.
>
> HTH.
Thanks everyone. Isn't it amazing how we each use a different technique to
accomplish the same thing? I'll be trying each one out over the next couple
of days and deciding which I prefer. Thanks especially to Al for his very
detailed tutorial on masking.
Oh, and thank for no one saying "use a fill flash, stupid!"
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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
> news:1gy1ycl.18nhs8ihr60lcN%usenet@mile23.c0m...
>> No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
>> the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
>> dodge.
>>
>> Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
>> until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably a
>> good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer mask,
>> select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now full of
>> black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again, and you
>> can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where you want
>> it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels and opacity
>> to get exactly what you want.
>>
>> HTH.
>
> Thanks everyone. Isn't it amazing how we each use a different technique
> to accomplish the same thing? I'll be trying each one out over the next
> couple of days and deciding which I prefer. Thanks especially to Al for
> his very detailed tutorial on masking.
>
> Oh, and thank for no one saying "use a fill flash, stupid!"
>
Bit late for that me thinks, did you anyway?
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> Walt Hanks <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> As some of you know, I was out in San Diego two weekends ago shooting
>> my sister's wedding (formals only - no reception). Everything was
>> shot outdoors on an overcast day with flat lighting. I used a silver
>> reflector for add a little sparkle. What I failed to notice was that
>> there were some significant shadows under my sister's eyes in a few
>> of the shots. So, I need to take care of them in PS.
>>
>> Here's my question. What plugins do you all like to use for dealing
>> with puffy eyes and shadows around the eyes?
>
> No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
> the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
> dodge.
>
> Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
> until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably
> a good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer
> mask, select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now
> full of black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again,
> and you can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where
> you want it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels
> and opacity to get exactly what you want.
>
> HTH.
>
That's a lot more complicated than necessary. Use the healing tool to
completely reove the bags under the eyes and then paint them back in with
a few passes of a 25% opacity history brush until they look real.
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
>
> No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
> the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
> dodge.
>
> Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
> until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably a
> good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer mask,
> select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now full of
> black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again, and you
> can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where you want
> it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels and opacity
> to get exactly what you want.
Thanks, I'm still clumsy with masks, that was a good explanation. What
does the "D" do? It seems to work without that.
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Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote:
> Paul Mitchum wrote:
> >
> > No need for a plug-in. Just use an effects layer to selectively change
> > the levels of your image. This is much easier to tweak and undo than a
> > dodge.
> >
> > Open the image. Make an effects layer for Levels. Tweak the midtone
> > until you get the brightness you want under the eyes; 1.4 is probably a
> > good place to start. Click OK, click on the effect layer's layer mask,
> > select all, hit D, then delete. Your effects layer's mask is now full of
> > black, causing the brightening effect to go away. Hit D again, and you
> > can use a paintbrush tool to paint the brightness back where you want
> > it. Finalize the mask and optionally tweak the layer levels and opacity
> > to get exactly what you want.
>
>
> Thanks, I'm still clumsy with masks, that was a good explanation. What
> does the "D" do? It seems to work without that.
D just makes sure white is the foreground color and black is the
background. It's the equivalent of clicking on that little
white-over-black thing next to the color picker.
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You work making loans and were too cheap to hire a photographer for the
wedding?
If I were out of the making loan business for 25 years, I hope I would
have sense enough to go to a bank for a mortgage.
The advances in photography from 25 years back: fill-flash works in
making outdoor images now.
= = =
Walt Hanks wrote:
> As some of you know, I was out in San Diego two weekends ago shooting my
> sister's wedding (formals only - no reception). Everything was shot
> outdoors on an overcast day with flat lighting. I used a silver reflector
> for add a little sparkle. What I failed to notice was that there were some
> significant shadows under my sister's eyes in a few of the shots. So, I
> need to take care of them in PS.
>
> Here's my question. What plugins do you all like to use for dealing with
> puffy eyes and shadows around the eyes?
>
> To see the images, go to:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/walthanks/mosleybreiding >
> But remember, I hadn't shot a wedding in 25 years and these are unretouched
> proofs.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Walt
>
> -- Hanks, SPFA
> Primerica Financial Services
> 410-370-7855
> 443-705-0203 Fax
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